More Crooks hired by Obama

[ViRedd]

Bullshit. Fascism is a one party dictatorship driven by nationalism and militarism that suppresses opposition.

I suppose if Obama was wanting fascism he would fire republicans at the DOJ, spy on his own citizens, invade non-threatening countries, and destroy those that revealed the truth. These are the tactics Hitler used, can we think of anyone else???[/quote]

Sure, how about Mussolini, who, by the way, was thought to be a brilliant politician by no other than Roosevelt and Churchill? They thought it great that Mussolini made the trains run on time. Another fascist that comes to mind is Roosevelt himself. FDR not Teddy. Another fascist would be Woodrow Wilson.

I'll say it again ... Communism is an economic system where the government owns the means of production and all capital. Fascism is an economic system where government leaves production and capital in private hands but has strict dictatorial control over it.

Vi

 

[ViRedd]

wow pops...you sure put me in my place....

No, tips ... I've done nothing to "put you in your place." You've managed that all by yourself.

Vi

 

[ViRedd]

your an idiot viredd read my first post and then make gramtical corrections ok

Well OK, but before I do that, you'll first have to explain what a "gramtical" is.

Vi

 

[tipsgnob]

Well OK, but before I do that, you'll first have to explain what a "gramtical" is.

Vi

that's when you weigh out too much weed..........

 

[Big P]

that story is kinda crazy, he sits on a chinese government run oil company's board and they wanna make him cheif of intelligence?

holy shit talk about conflict of interest!

 

[ViRedd]

that's when you weigh out too much weed..........

For a misguided Whippersnapper, you have a pretty good sense of humor.

Vi

 

[BirdTooth]

All right, now can you try putting that in Standardized English, cause it's very confusing post.

I mean, you don't borrow people money, you borrow money from people, you lend people money.

It is rare to find a carefully written response in a place like RIU. Most people just churn out their posts, with no thought given to grammar, or even clarity.
It is unfortunate that when I do come across one, like this one written by TheBrutalTruth, the author is using his "education" to belittle another person in a way that is totally arrogant and shameful.
Your superior education may have you writing with very few grammatical errors, but it clearly failed to help you understand anything about the complexity of humans. You write the word liberal as if a liberal was a specific model of car, with standardized, identical features. These are real people you are talking about, and the only thing they have in common with each other - the only difference they have from you - are their views on a very small set of issues. You are welcome to be hateful, but if you are going to be arrogant in public, at least pick something you do well, not just better than some guy on RIU.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

It is rare to find a carefully written response in a place like RIU. Most people just churn out their posts, with no thought given to grammar, or even clarity.
It is unfortunate that when I do come across one, like this one written by TheBrutalTruth, the author is using his "education" to belittle another person in a way that is totally arrogant and shameful.
Your superior education may have you writing with very few grammatical errors, but it clearly failed to help you understand anything about the complexity of humans. You write the word liberal as if a liberal was a specific model of car, with standardized, identical features. These are real people you are talking about, and the only thing they have in common with each other - the only difference they have from you - are their views on a very small set of issues. You are welcome to be hateful, but if you are going to be arrogant in public, at least pick something you do well, not just better than some guy on RIU.

OMG it's the old you can't stereotype liberals argument.

Here, let me throw you a bone, you're right. There's Socialists, Fascists and Communists, who are not true liberals and have stolen the definition of the word here in the United States and attached to an Anti-Liberal Platform that is build upon restricting economic freedom, personal freedom, and political freedom,

And then there's real Liberals, who actually believe in more freedom of all types regardless of the category the freedom falls under (economic, political, personal), because they understand that losing any one of those amounts to losing all of them.

Now, if you want to continue attacking me for trying to get the person that posted that to clarify what they were trying to say, then go away, because you aren't contributing anything to this thread. (Which amazingly enough, if you did more than read my complaints about lack of clarity in that post, you'd notice that I actually did.

 

[Slane420]

Can I stop paying taxes yet? I mean they do it why can we not?

 

[BirdTooth]

OMG it's the old you can't stereotype liberals argument.

Here, let me throw you a bone, you're right. There's Socialists, Fascists and Communists, who are not true liberals and have stolen the definition of the word here in the United States and attached to an Anti-Liberal Platform that is build upon restricting economic freedom, personal freedom, and political freedom,

And then there's real Liberals, who actually believe in more freedom of all types regardless of the category the freedom falls under (economic, political, personal), because they understand that losing any one of those amounts to losing all of them.

Now, if you want to continue attacking me for trying to get the person that posted that to clarify what they were trying to say, then go away, because you aren't contributing anything to this thread. (Which amazingly enough, if you did more than read my complaints about lack of clarity in that post, you'd notice that I actually did.

I'm not saying you can't stereotype liberals, I'm saying that if you are going to spit out something as petty as E(Nl) = Fe, you had better start out by defining exactly what you mean by a liberal.
Unless you are really suggesting that a large, specific organization of malicious people, called "liberals", are somehow exclusively responsible for crippling our country in the way you described, then your post was of no more relevance to the topic than mine.

Nothing real boils down so conveniently. You should speak with my grandfather, he feels the same way about "blacks" as you do about liberals. When he says blacks are screwing up the country, he is a racist man who doesn't realize he is actually angry about poverty and an environment of exclusion that racism like his creates. You are angry about the state of things, but surely you can see that there are just plain idiots out there, who just plain mess things up, regardless of what bumper sticker they choose to plaster on their car.

You can't decide that everybody who votes a specific way (choosing the one option out of two that you happen to disagree with) is automatically a member of some phantom ideology that inherits blame for the things you don't like. They may even think of themselves as liberals, or conservatives, or socialists, or any number of things, but if you are really going to assign a political ideology to the average voter, then lets start calling all NFL fans athletes, because its the same thing.
If you are talking about the very few people who might actually fit your labels of socialist, facist, communist, liberal, etc. like the administrators of extreme groups like moveon.org, and people whose careers are spent pushing a very specific agenda, then it becomes a different statement, but your accusation used an enormously broad stroke to describe a small group of people, with a disrespect that was so deliberate that you actually tried to tie it into the topic.

 

[fugaziebob]

he isn't worth the time birdtooth he thinks he is smart because he comes on RIU to correct people writing, not realizing that people aren't on this site for english classes. If you can't figure out what I was saying brutal truth I am not going to rewrite it if you want you can correct it then repost it alright english wiz.

 

[ViRedd]

Nothing real boils down so conveniently. You should speak with my grandfather, he feels the same way about "blacks" as you do about liberals

Well, I like Blacks and have included them in my circle of friends ... but I hate "liberals." By the term "liberals," I mean so called Progressive Marxists and fascists who commandeered the term "liberal" around the beginning of the 20th century to use for their own causes and to hide their true intentions.

I am a true liberal ... in the Jeffersonian sense; a Classical Liberal, if you will. I believe in a small central government that remains chained to the conditions of the Constitution. I belive the main political powers should remain with the states. I believe that it is none of the federal government's business how much money I make, how I make it or how I spend it, as long as I do not violate the rights of another citizen in the process. I feel the same way about what I drink, smoke, snort or inject as well.

I also believe that the Ship of State is being overrun by a bunch of pirates and that we are witnessing the largest train robbery in history.

I also belive that there is a good possibility that within the first year of Obama's administration he will admit that he isn't up to the job and will resign from the presidency.

The country has been, and is being run by thieves, cheats, power mongers and now punks. This is nothing new of course, but now that the punks are running things, its getting worse by the frikin day.

We have a tax cheat heading up the IRS and a one-term senator, still wet behind the ears, with only community organizing for experience fer cryin' out loud.

They are throwing trillions of good money after trillions of bad money ... and expecting things to get better? Try that with your home budget and see what happens.

Oh and by the way ... I'm probably older than your Grandfather.

Vi

 

[Big P]

Well, I like Blacks and have included them in my circle of friends ... but I hate "liberals." By the term "liberals," I mean so called Progressive Marxists and fascists who commandeered the term "liberal" around the beginning of the 20th century to use for their own causes and to hide their true intentions.

I am a true liberal ... in the Jeffersonian sense; a Classical Liberal, if you will. I believe in a small central government that remains chained to the conditions of the Constitution. I belive the main political powers should remain with the states. I believe that it is none of the federal government's business how much money I make, how I make it or how I spend it, as long as I do not violate the rights of another citizen in the process. I feel the same way about what I drink, smoke, snort or inject as well.

I also believe that the Ship of State is being overrun by a bunch of pirates and that we are witnessing the largest train robbery in history.

I also belive that there is a good possibility that within the first year of Obama's administration he will admit that he isn't up to the job and will resign from the presidency.

The country has been, and is being run by thieves, cheats, power mongers and now punks. This is nothing new of course, but now that the punks are running things, its getting worse by the frikin day.

We have a tax cheat heading up the IRS and a one-term senator, still wet behind the ears, with only community organizing for experience fer cryin' out loud.

They are throwing trillions of good money after trillions of bad money ... and expecting things to get better? Try that with your home budget and see what happens.

Oh and by the way ... I'm probably older than your Grandfather.

Vi

very nice post, more states rights would allow the states to compete a lot more, making the shitty ones end up copying the ones that prosper and attract occupents

 

[fugaziebob]

That was a pretty good post I agree with most of it.

 

[anthony6216]

Naaaa 2012 shit is going down as in the world!

Peace and 1love,
anthony

 

[BirdTooth]

Well, I like Blacks and have included them in my circle of friends ... but I hate "liberals." By the term "liberals," I mean so called Progressive Marxists and fascists who commandeered the term "liberal" around the beginning of the 20th century to use for their own causes and to hide their true intentions.

I am a true liberal ... in the Jeffersonian sense; a Classical Liberal, if you will. I believe in a small central government that remains chained to the conditions of the Constitution. I belive the main political powers should remain with the states. I believe that it is none of the federal government's business how much money I make, how I make it or how I spend it, as long as I do not violate the rights of another citizen in the process. I feel the same way about what I drink, smoke, snort or inject as well.

I also believe that the Ship of State is being overrun by a bunch of pirates and that we are witnessing the largest train robbery in history.

I also belive that there is a good possibility that within the first year of Obama's administration he will admit that he isn't up to the job and will resign from the presidency.

The country has been, and is being run by thieves, cheats, power mongers and now punks. This is nothing new of course, but now that the punks are running things, its getting worse by the frikin day.

We have a tax cheat heading up the IRS and a one-term senator, still wet behind the ears, with only community organizing for experience fer cryin' out loud.

They are throwing trillions of good money after trillions of bad money ... and expecting things to get better? Try that with your home budget and see what happens.

Oh and by the way ... I'm probably older than your Grandfather.

Vi

You seemed to have missed my point. You say "I've included blacks in my circle of friends" in the same sentence that you said you hate liberals. Like they are each some unified group that has meetings every weekend to discuss their activity. You allow the members of the "blacks" into your circle, while excluding the liberals.

These aren't two clubs, though. These are abstract groups that political journalists (read: writers with no other skills) create so the world seems conveniently packaged. If you could send me the link to the "blacks" website that lists their requirements for membership and their mission statement I'd love to read it.
I'm just being facetious of course, but I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. If you are going to generalize like that, you are just choosing what to focus on. We are all Americans, why don't we just talk about that? Or how about grouping ourselves based on how many bones we've broken in our lives? It all amounts to the same thing, we are grouping people in our minds so we can hate them all in one place.

You hate sorry politicians, and self-serving, incompetent people. All this labeling is just a distraction from the fact that these people are not qualified to do the job we've hired them for.
You are a true liberal, fine. I am a Cardinals fan. I also like chocolate ice cream.
What effect does that have on our country? Do you buy a different kind of toothpaste as the result of that ideology? Do you work for a different company than you would have otherwise? Besides the politicians that you are supposed to be voting in on merit anyway, what does this ideology matter outside the confines of your head, and what influence do these "corruptors" of that ideology have?
These marxists masquerading as liberals, are they out sucking the blood of innocents? Literally? Because that is what you make it sound like.

Maybe the problem is that these politicians know they have an army that will vote them in, regardless of how badly they do, as long as their opponent belongs to the other party. They don't have to try, they just have to label themselves and we all have orgasms.

I don't know, Vi, the sole fact that you are on the internet makes me skeptical. He is 89, so almost as old as they come!

 

[tipsgnob]

Well, I like Blacks and have included them in my circle of friends ... but I hate "liberals." By the term "liberals," I mean so called Progressive Marxists and fascists who commandeered the term "liberal" around the beginning of the 20th century to use for their own causes and to hide their true intentions.

I am a true liberal ... in the Jeffersonian sense; a Classical Liberal, if you will. I believe in a small central government that remains chained to the conditions of the Constitution. I belive the main political powers should remain with the states. I believe that it is none of the federal government's business how much money I make, how I make it or how I spend it, as long as I do not violate the rights of another citizen in the process. I feel the same way about what I drink, smoke, snort or inject as well.

I also believe that the Ship of State is being overrun by a bunch of pirates and that we are witnessing the largest train robbery in history.

I also belive that there is a good possibility that within the first year of Obama's administration he will admit that he isn't up to the job and will resign from the presidency.

The country has been, and is being run by thieves, cheats, power mongers and now punks. This is nothing new of course, but now that the punks are running things, its getting worse by the frikin day.

We have a tax cheat heading up the IRS and a one-term senator, still wet behind the ears, with only community organizing for experience fer cryin' out loud.

They are throwing trillions of good money after trillions of bad money ... and expecting things to get better? Try that with your home budget and see what happens.

Oh and by the way ... I'm probably older than your Grandfather.

Vi

Vi likes the black folks...he thinks everyone should own one.........

 

[medicineman]

You seemed to have missed my point. You say "I've included blacks in my circle of friends" in the same sentence that you said you hate liberals. Like they are each some unified group that has meetings every weekend to discuss their activity. You allow the members of the "blacks" into your circle, while excluding the liberals.

These aren't two clubs, though. These are abstract groups that political journalists (read: writers with no other skills) create so the world seems conveniently packaged. If you could send me the link to the "blacks" website that lists their requirements for membership and their mission statement I'd love to read it.
I'm just being facetious of course, but I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. If you are going to generalize like that, you are just choosing what to focus on. We are all Americans, why don't we just talk about that? Or how about grouping ourselves based on how many bones we've broken in our lives? It all amounts to the same thing, we are grouping people in our minds so we can hate them all in one place.

You hate sorry politicians, and self-serving, incompetent people. All this labeling is just a distraction from the fact that these people are not qualified to do the job we've hired them for.
You are a true liberal, fine. I am a Cardinals fan. I also like chocolate ice cream.
What effect does that have on our country? Do you buy a different kind of toothpaste as the result of that ideology? Do you work for a different company than you would have otherwise? Besides the politicians that you are supposed to be voting in on merit anyway, what does this ideology matter outside the confines of your head, and what influence do these "corruptors" of that ideology have?
These marxists masquerading as liberals, are they out sucking the blood of innocents? Literally? Because that is what you make it sound like.

Maybe the problem is that these politicians know they have an army that will vote them in, regardless of how badly they do, as long as their opponent belongs to the other party. They don't have to try, they just have to label themselves and we all have orgasms.

I don't know, Vi, the sole fact that you are on the internet makes me skeptical. He is 89, so almost as old as they come!

I think you have come pretty close to describing VI. Hatred is an emotion founded on ignorance. Mainly, it is ignorant people that give enough energy to hating something. Understanding is the anti-dote to hatred.

 

[Big P]

I think you have come pretty close to describing VI. Hatred is an emotion founded on ignorance. Mainly, it is ignorant people that give enough energy to hating something. Understanding is the anti-dote to hatred.

tell that to people who have been tortured and the countless others who have been wronged by others that rightfully deserve thier hatred, and most hatred is spawned from close familiarty with the subject than ignorence and unfamiliarity


heres a wowy zowy, im an arab, guess what, when i see other arab lookin peeps at the airport I think they have a higher chance of being terrorists than the others.

I chill with my friends who are black, they trust thier own less,

look at white people, they do the same but in revese they seem more trusting of other whites, why? theres a reason



guess what everyone, what is "classical conditioning"?


It means that if every time I ring a bell I smoke you out, it means that soon enough just hearing that bell will make you wanna smoke and expect to smoke.


just like if i live on an island and all the white peeps on the island used to beat me up, but all the chinese on the island used to fix my wounds and feed me

whats gonna happen when i leave the island and go to new york city?


im going to be so scared to death of the whites and run when I see them an get scared.

what will I do when I see the chinese? i will try to hug them and say hi

now would this person be a racist? or just a human being who learns from his expiriances environment?


exactly. this is how animals and humans are able to survive in a dangerous world

now if you are being taught to hate people its a little different and that is due to lack of knowledge.


in my estimation everyone would be considered racist in some shape or form.

Everyone including you medi

 

[NorthwestBuds]

Big P,

While I don't believe Med is a racist I think you have some good thoughts there.

Hey do you live near Amsterdam? Tell me about it if you can. I hear it's the coolest city in the world.