Bi-Partisan Senate report calls for sweeping effort to stop Russian trolls on social media platforms.

hanimmal

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everything is cool, I will stay out of the political discussion because I am not a political person.
Still I think you are overemphasizing something that is completely irrelevant.

i hope the election goes the way you want and that you can live the life you want
No worries, I wish you the best in life. And do hope you stick around. Best of luck with your plants!

2 billion interactions with over 127 million Americans on just one platform in just the month prior to the election is not something I consider 'irrelevant'.

That is the equivalent of about $200 million dollars being dumped into just Facebook by a foreign military in the month leading up to our election at 10 cents per post for some Chinese data firm, and about $600 million for a American company to do the same thing on Facebook.

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hanimmal

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Yes im a real person bro not a troll , not trying to troll. I really dont use social media haven't for at 3 years... i do agree that putin is working woth trump. But you must understand this is not new or unique to trump or this election
Right on, nice to meet you.

I agree it is not new. The Russian attack on our nation has gone back years. In the reports it starts tracking the attack around 2014 when Russia sent in agents into the United States to tighten up their social media militarized trolling.

To understand this troll I highly recommend watching this video first, it is the Cambridge Analytica sales pitch.

It is worth the time to see how they can use data you produce online (and your friends/family since they know who you are down to the district you vote in and how you and the people around you vote, what stories you read, how you click around the internet, hell this is the Russian military, they could simply download spyware and collect every scrap of data on all your devices (including audio/visual) all the time and have a real time evaluation of how to best attack you that moment.

This is extremely new technology (2012 is when businesses started realizing the power of data analysis in teasing out information about their customers) and in 2013 Snowden smuggled the NSA data files to Putin with the help of Assange giving the Russian military exactly what they needed to complete their attack on our nation's citizens.



With me so far?

Why does trump working with putin trigger you so much? If it was someone from Ukraine would that be better or France even better right?
Because it is shitty, dangerous, and effective.

It has nothing to do with being Russia, any nation who is using their military to attack our citizens is out of line and needs to stop before it is too late and they turn this attack into a hot war. Americans are still waking up to this attack, once they fully shake off the fog we are in, I am scared for what comes next if the nations attacking us don't back the hell down.
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-elections-georgia-voting-2020-voting-c191f128b36d1c0334c9d0b173daa18c
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A ransomware attack that hobbled a Georgia county government in early October reportedly disabled a database used to verify voter signatures in the authentication of absentee ballots.

It is the first reported case of a ransomware attack affecting an election-related system in the 2020 cycle. Federal officials and cybersecurity experts are especially concerned that ransomware attacks — even ones that don’t intentionally target election infrastructure — could disrupt voting and damage confidence in the integrity of the Nov. 3 election.

The Oct. 7 attack on Hall County, in the northern part of the state, hit critical systems and interrupted phone services, the county said in a statement posted on its website. County spokeswoman Katie Crumley did not return multiple requests for comment from The Associated Press.

But according to a report in the Gainesville Times, the attack also disabled the county’s voter signature database. Crumley was also quoted in an online CNN story saying that the attack affected both the signature database and a voting precinct map.

Ransomware scrambles affected computer networks with encryption that can only be unlocked with keys provided once the victim has paid up. Deloitte analyst Srini Subramanian said ransoms local governments pay in such cases average about $400,000.

An update Thursday evening on the county website said “the voting process for citizens has not been impacted by the attack.” However, a county official quoted by the Times said signature verification was slowed because employees had to manually pull hard copies of voter registration cards in many cases. The official was quoted as saying that most voter signatures could still be verified using a state database unaffected by the attack. The county has 129,000 registered voters.

In most states, signatures are used to validate absentee ballots sent by mail. Written on the envelopes that sheath the ballots, they are matched by election workers against signatures on file with state and local election authorities.

Federal officials recently announced that Russian hackers have infiltrated dozens of state and local government networks and could be poised to launch disruptive attacks.

An international ransomware syndicate known as Doppelpaymer appears to be involved in the Hall County attack. It posted documents purportedly stolen from Hall County on a dark web site as proof of responsibility.

Crumley, the county spokeswoman, did not respond to an email asking how much ransom that attackers had demanded and whether the county had paid a ransom.

Brett Callow, a threat analyst at Emsisoft cybersecurity firm, said the attack could augur other similar actions exploiting the proximity of Election Day.

“The real question is how many local government networks are already compromised? Threat actors frequently delay deploying ransomware on compromised networks until what they consider to be the most opportune moment — and that may well be in the days immediately prior to the election,” he said. “What better time to extort money from a government by holding its systems hostage than when those systems are most needed?”

A worsening ransomware plague is afflicting U.S. cities, counties and school districts, exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

At least 82 government bodies in the U.S. have been hit by ransomware so far this year. Eighteen of those incidents have occurred since the beginning of September, according to Emsisoft.
 

hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/hospitals-being-hit-in-coordinated-targeted-ransomware-attack-from-russian-speaking-criminals/2020/10/28/e6e48c38-196e-11eb-befb-8864259bd2d8_story.html
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Russian-speaking cybercriminals in recent days have launched a coordinated attack targeting U.S. hospitals already stressed by the coronavirus pandemic with ransomware that analysts worry could lead to fatalities.

In the space of 24 hours beginning Monday, six hospitals from California to New York have been hit by the Ryuk ransomware, which encrypts data on computer systems, forcing the hospitals in some cases to disrupt patient care and cancel noncritical surgeries, analysts said.

The criminals have demanded a ransom ranging upward of $1 million to unlock the system, and some hospitals have paid, they said.

On Tuesday, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services issued a joint advisory alerting health-care providers to the threat.

“The events unfolding right now have the potential to cause the loss of life, potentially across multiple hospitals,” said Charles Carmakal, chief technology officer for Mandiant, a cybersecurity firm, which has helped some of the hospitals affected try to recover their data.

The cybercriminals have been discussing their intent to target hundreds of U.S. health-care organizations, said Alex Holden, chief information security officer and president of Milwaukee-based Hold Security. One of those hospitals alone has more than 60 locations in the country, he said.

The criminals, who operate out of Eastern Europe, are not targeting election-related infrastructure in this campaign, the analysts said. But they are known to have gone after other targets, including state and local government networks.

Cyber Command sought to disrupt world’s largest botnet, one used to deliver ransomware

Earlier this month, Microsoft and U.S. Cyber Command, the Pentagon’s offensive cyberunit, in separate campaigns sought to disrupt the criminals by dismantling the network of infected computers they used to deploy Ryuk. One goal, Microsoft and U.S. officials said, was to prevent the “botnet” from being used to deliver damaging ransomware that could lock up voter registration and other systems in the lead-up to the election.

But the criminals behind that botnet, known as Trickbot, have mostly moved to a new set of infected computers, analysts said. Microsoft said earlier that it expected the criminals to try to rebuild their network.

Microsoft won court order to disrupt ransomware-linked botnet

Though criminals have been deploying ransomware against hospitals since the beginning of the pandemic, having one group hit six separate hospital organizations in 24 hours is a step up in tactics, said Allan Liska, intelligence analyst at the cyberfirm Recorded Future. “If they can do this to six hospitals, there’s no reason they can’t do this to a dozen,” he said. “That means that patient care could be seriously impacted and people could die from something like that.”

A woman in Germany died last month when the hospital she went to for emergency care turned her away because it had suffered a ransomware attack. She died en route to another facility. It is unclear whether Ryuk was involved in that case, which is said to represent the first death linked to ransomware.

The attacks have shut down some procedures at Sky Lakes Medical Center in Klamath Falls, Ore., spokesman Tom Hottman said. The hospital is unable to offer cancer treatments that are computer-controlled, and the attack has curbed some diagnostic imaging as well. Doctors and nurses have turned to paper for patient records with the electronic system offline, Hottman said.

The hospital was hit by the ransomware Monday morning, and staff were told to shut down their computers to slow the spread of the malware, he said. A cybersecurity firm arrived Wednesday afternoon at the hospital, Hottman said.

“It’s an evolving situation,” he said.

Sonoma Valley Hospital in Sonoma, Calif., was also infected, said people familiar with the matter. In a statement, the hospital, which acknowledged a cyberattack but did not specify ransomware, said it was “maintaining operations while computer systems are being fully restored.”

Likewise, St. Lawrence Health System in Potsdam, N.Y., was hit Monday, according to WWNY television. The hospital disconnected its computer systems to prevent the malware from spreading.
 

hanimmal

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It is something to hope for, but I don't think it's as simple as "almost all the racists are old".

To illustrate, I've been a member of this MMA forum for over 10 years. There is a sister, non-MMA forum that links from the same page. Five years ago the non-mma board was conservative, but still represented both sides. Non-mma posts on the mma forum were jeered.

Now, the non-mma board is a virulent nest of conservative hate and the mma board(as with many aspects of life) has also been mostly taken over by those people.
As I'm sure you can imagine, MMA's fan demographic skews young. Rest assured, there is a large segment of a new generation who have grown up hearing and believing hateful lies, who think name-calling and doxing is an acceptable way to express their political views.

There is a very long and very difficult road ahead. I hope the people are up to the task.
And those people's conversations can be downloaded and linked to their other data from around the internet (Foreign militaries don't have to follow our internet laws) to attack them with information that they care about on any platform that they are most vulnerable to falling for the con. Because it all gets worked into those people on that MMA forum's bubble.

Imagine that continuous flow of easily deciphered data giving a up to date psycological profile that can be easily used in a spreadsheet to score the likelyhood of them already voted (or will vote) for Trump/Biden, and which boards to troll to get the biggest bang for their actual human being doing the trolling's time cat fishing Americans.
 

H G Griffin

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And those people's conversations can be downloaded and linked to their other data from around the internet (Foreign militaries don't have to follow our internet laws) to attack them with information that they care about on any platform that they are most vulnerable to falling for the con. Because it all gets worked into those people on that MMA forum's bubble.

Imagine that continuous flow of easily deciphered data giving a up to date psycological profile that can be easily used in a spreadsheet to score the likelyhood of them already voted (or will vote) for Trump/Biden, and which boards to troll to get the biggest bang for their actual human being doing the trolling's time cat fishing Americans.
To me, it seems like you are not going far enough up the ladder of causality. Why are these people so susceptible to all these lies?

The US education system has been weaponized against its own citizens. Instead of being actually educated, kids are indoctrinated. Why are religious groups being consulted on what can be included on science texts, for example? WTF does their BELIEF have to do with provable, documented, repeatable science?

The partisan nature of the US has caused a complete breakdown of trust in the government and its institutions.

I saw an ad for a military video game the other day. The tag line was something like "there is no truth, there is only the side you choose to believe". Pretty sure you can't blame the Russians for that bit of Orwell.

In other words, when you see a kid with daddy issues, it's a good idea to have a look at the daddy.
 

hanimmal

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To me, it seems like you are not going far enough up the ladder of causality. Why are these people so susceptible to all these lies?

The US education system has been weaponized against its own citizens. Instead of being actually educated, kids are indoctrinated.
lol, I got to this point and was thinking 'oh crap, thought this was a person and not another troll'.

Why are religious groups being consulted on what can be included in science texts, for example? WTF does their BELIEF have to do with provable, documented, repeatable science?
But then you said that, and I agree fully, I just thought you were going down a different road. I haven't seen a certain squatch for a while.

That is locally controlled, the evangelicals swooped right in on the Republican tickets with that one you are right. It was part of their unholy alliance that the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male Only agenda had to make. Religion doesn't impact them at all in America much like racist (or more lately xenophobists) and chauvinistic natured people. Pandering to them by allowing the kids in their communities to get brainwashed into whatever that area thinks is ok is just fine with them.


The partisan nature of the US has caused a complete breakdown of trust in the government and its institutions.
I would say it was used as a tool to breakdown the trust.

I saw an ad for a military video game the other day. The tag line was something like "there is no truth, there is only the side you choose to believe". Pretty sure you can't blame the Russians for that bit of Orwell.

In other words, when you see a kid with daddy issues, it's a good idea to have a look at the daddy.
That is messed up.

BTW, the whole Russian trolls thing is just branding that Trump got to stick. It can be the Saudi's, whatever scams Netanyahu has going on, Putin's network of trolls around the world, Chinese religious crazies like Epoch Times/Gnews, Canadians, or the ones Trump has here in the good ole United States of America.

Any platform with a chat feature is under attack.
 

hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/russia-can-stand-down-the-gop-is-interfering-with-election-results-all-on-its-own/2020/11/02/c175c6d8-1d42-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html
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Russia, Iran and other foreign adversaries tempted to interfere in U.S. elections can take it easy Tuesday. They needn’t waste precious resources tampering with vote tallies or degrading the perceived legitimacy of our election results.

Follow the latest on Election 2020

Because Republican officials have done this work all on their own.

Americans like to think of our country as a place with a shared set of democratic values. We’re a nation in which whoever receives the most votes, according to some predetermined set of rules, wins. But recent developments reveal the sharedness of these values to be a fantasy. In the months leading up to the presidential election, the Republican Party has been singularly focused on preventing eligible voters from reaching the polls and on blocking lawfully cast ballots from being counted.

One party, and one party alone, has abandoned the old-fashioned electoral strategy of appealing to a majority. Instead, it has fully, openly embraced voter suppression.

In Texas and Ohio, Republican officials reduced the number of ballot drop boxes, particularly affecting densely populated counties more likely to vote Democratic. In South Carolina and Oklahoma, GOP leaders fought to require witness signatures or even notaries for absentee ballots, despite a pandemic that makes such requirements dangerous. In Michigan, they supported a suit to allow open carry of firearms at the polls, despite the obvious potential for intimidation. They’ve praised other forms of voter intimidation, too, including an alleged attempt to run a Joe Biden campaign bus off the road.

At the federal level, the Trump administration crippled operations of the U.S. Postal Service. Then — in states such as Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina — Trump allies have fought to disqualify ballots that might be delayed by the resulting slowdown in deliveries.

In Texas, days before polls closed, Republicans filed lawsuits to invalidate more than 120,000 ballots already cast via drive-through voting.

And so on. As longtime Republican election attorney Benjamin L. Ginsberg summarized in a Post op-ed: “The Trump campaign and Republican entities engaged in more than 40 voting and ballot court cases around the country this year. In exactly none — zero — are they trying to make it easier for citizens to vote.”

Not all their efforts have succeeded, of course. But where they have, they’ve been disproportionately aided by federal judges appointed by President Trump. Nearly three out of four opinions issued in voting-related cases by Trump appointees favored policies reducing ballot access, as my Post colleagues have tallied. Judges appointed by earlier presidents (including Republicans) do not have nearly the same anti-suffrage record.

In some of their efforts, Republicans have precisely targeted voters likely to cast ballots for Democrats. In others they appear to be pushing to throw out batches of ballots more or less randomly, without knowing the partisan composition. But this, too, is a strategy that can help Republicans: If you expect to lose when all the ballots are counted — as polls suggest — the best thing you can do is add variance. By cutting off the vote tally somewhere short of a full count, you increase your odds of winning.

Republicans will (thinly) veil these voter suppression ploys with legalese, ginned-up fears about voter fraud, procedural integrity, that sort of thing. But every once in a while they slip and give the game away — as when Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller told ABC News on Sunday that Democrats are trying to “steal” the election by, no joke, counting all the votes.

At this point, the only way to avoid a protracted legal battle, and any doubts about the perceived legitimacy of the outcome, would be for Biden to win in an in-person-and-on-Election-Day-ballot-count landslide. That way the absentee, drive-through and provisional ballots that Republicans are trying to invalidate won’t end up mattering.

But even so, the broader issue still would.

Because let’s be honest. America can’t continue calling itself a democracy if it throws out tens or hundreds of thousands of ballots cast in good faith, for transparently anti-democratic reasons, simply because a political party asked for it. We can’t continue to pretend our judicial branch is made up of neutral, qualified individuals calling balls and strikes — at least not when the courts have been packed with appointees vetted for their inclination to cement a partisan agenda that Republican politicians openly expect voters to reject.

The legitimacy of our government, and respect for the rule of law, depends on voters’ belief that it has been put in place as a result of free and fair elections. That’s the social contract. And Republicans have set it aflame.
 

hanimmal

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Give this a read. I seen alot of familys hate each other over political views and i don't think thats right. Everyone has a opinion dont be that guy that hates someone because of it!
Especially when it is because of data driven propaganda profiles pushed by the Russian military that is causing the family rifts.
 

hanimmal

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Another boring attack on Trump. Liberals surrendered all their creativity for the sweet chains of socialism? Get off your couch pussy bitch
The branding is all you got huh? How long before you start pretending like facts are not real?

Facts? All those things are easily disputed but your mind is ignorant you're not even willing to bring them to light. You leftist run these forums like Hitler. FACT
Oh, not long at all.

Serisously If you are not a paid foreign troll trying to sow confusion (making it seem like Trump has more support than he really does) you should read up on the attack that trolls that are indistinguishable from you are doing to our citizens.

Because it is highly effective and shitty. And if there are people you care about in America, it is worth knowing that they too are under attack, because if you actually think the things you are spamming here are the reality, you are too.

Best of luck, I really hope that if you are not a paid foreign troll that knows better, you stick around and learn some real information that is kept out of your propaganda bubble.
 

hanimmal

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As much as the left spams the forums with their attacks? I think not and it's a pity that there is no conservatives representatives willing to speak up.
Are you an American and if so are you ok with the Russian using trolls indistinguishable from yourself to attack our citizens with the propaganda you are peddling?

How do you know they are 'the left'? And not just another in the endless lines of paid trolls attacking you on whatever forum has you all worked up that you resurrect a sock puppet account and come into here to spam Trump's bs?
 

Mirrordawn

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Are you an American and if so are you ok with the Russian using trolls indistinguishable from yourself to attack our citizens with the propaganda you are peddling?

How do you know they are 'the left'? And not just another in the endless lines of paid trolls attacking you on whatever forum has you all worked up that you resurrect a sock puppet account and come into here to spam Trump's bs?
Keep saying the same bullshit. All you Russian shit got debunked a long time ago, get with the program you broken record.
 

hanimmal

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Keep saying the same bullshit. All you Russian shit got debunked a long time ago, get with the program you broken record.
Because you said it 'got debunked'?

Now I know you are full of shit.

Dear Leader has you so filled of lies. But I doubt you are even an American anymore since you can't even admit to being one.

I don't need to hide unlike you, pussy ass bitch
lmao tough guy.

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Apologize for me to whoever it is that you take your impotent rage out on later today after you whip yourself into a hate hangover.

Im really happy that your hateful bullshit always loses when it is up for a vote here in America.
 

hanimmal

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I'm not an American no, and which claimed attacks in particular? I think people of almost every country in the world are being attacked by the media and tech systems much more than by any one particular country. There are those who empower and fund it and those who fight it of course, and anywhere in between. Psychological warfare is real, and the MSM is the tool used to wage war against the average person of any nation
The one described in the OP of this thread.

What do you mean by 'MSM'?
 
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