When did you start smoking with your kids?

Olive Drab Green

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Def don’t think you’re judging. I don’t agree with Xanax or seroquel for teens either. I also don’t agree with the shit they give kids for ADD and ADHD. My beautiful nephew who’s usually so full of energetic life is forced to take them and I could near cry when I come in to see him staring at a screen but his eyes aren’t moving n his mouth hanging open looking like a god damn zombie. I don’t believe in messing with developing brains. And there’s A LOT of research out there to suggest the cons of smoking pot “regularly” pre 17-18yo. If he was to puff on a joint or smoke a bowl at a party here n there so what that’s what teenagers do I def did. But he will never hear “it’s ok” from my mouth as long as he is still in school.
It’s the same deal for alcohol too not just weed.
New research shows there is 0 long term effects on developing brains and all effects stop and processes return completely to normal 72 hours after cessation of use.

My daughter has the thumbs-up to use cannabis at the same age the state says she can legally control her medical situation independent of my will, which is 14. Unless she is prescribed it earlier, or if I find she’s smoking young. Then, I have to explain to her how to approach this plant maturely, and recommend she vaporize or take measured oral doses rather than smoke (even though I really enjoy smoking.) I want to neither influence/encourage her, nor deter her. But if she needs it, if it helps and doesn’t hinder her, I don’t want her to ever feed or feel the stigma behind it.

Alcohol, I will do everything I can to stress the dangers of, particularly from my own experience.
 
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Bareback

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I think 14-16 is an alright age. Don’t let them get completely ripped, make sure they are partaking maturely, make sure they are fulfilling obligations such as school, there’s no reason to stigmatize it. Recent studies show that any “negative” side effects go away no more than 72 hours after cessation of use.

If I smoked weed in high school instead of being prescribed antidepressants, neuroleptics, benzodiazepines, and CNS stimulants, I probably wouldn’t have been such an angsty spazz.
ODG sup dude, I smoked all the time back in the school days and I had a lot of anger issues.... some of us are just wired that way.
 

Olive Drab Green

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ODG sup dude, I smoked all the time back in the school days and I had a lot of anger issues.... some of us are just wired that way.
I’m not trying to talk overtop of someone or say they’re wrong. I just wanted to clarify why I don’t think it’s wrong. Especially when I went through 50 different SSRIs, SNRIs, Tricyclics, Neuroleptics, etc. by the time I was 12 (it all started at 8 years old,) and no one stopped for a second to consider whether or not it was a good idea.
 

Bareback

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I’m not trying to talk overtop of someone or say they’re wrong. I just wanted to clarify why I don’t think it’s wrong. Especially when I went through 50 different SSRIs, SNRIs, Tricyclics, Neuroleptics, etc. by the time I was 12 (it all started at 8 years old,) and no one stopped for a second to consider whether or not it was a good idea.
It's cool, I was mostly just saying hi.
 

Bareback

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I started smoking with a daughter when she was about 22, she's the only person who has ever been in my grow room. She has the instructions to kill the lights if anything ever happens to me.

And I know she is getting clean organically grown weed with no chemicals or poisons , so that is responsible parenting...... right.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I started smoking with a daughter when she was about 22, she's the only person who has ever been in my grow room. She has the instructions to kill the lights if anything ever happens to me.

And I know she is getting clean organically grown weed with no chemicals or poisons , so that is responsible parenting...... right.
Sounds like a badass Dad to me. I only ever got my mom to smoke with me once. It was probably the most carefree and happy I had ever seen her. Whereas she would usually be a giant, manipulative, abusive, self-centered, brooding thundercunt (I reserve the C-word for rare exceptions; apologies, ladies), she laughed until farted, then she laughed because she farted.

Never got her to do it again, because “she’s afraid to lose control.” Meanwhile, she pops her own Oxycodone, Clonazepam, Flexeril, Neurontin, and 50 of her own medications on top of my aunt’s Vicodin. Hell, that was one of the reasons we don’t talk. When I was still using, I was at least paying my aunt for her Vicodin. She’d just walk in there and bully her for them. Then, when she would find my aunt low (I paid $60 for 15-20 10/325s) she would approach me under the very obvious and thin veneer of fearing for my safety. It was clear to me, she was more concerned I was tapping into her stash.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Life's good , I have a new granddaughter born on 3-15-18 . She weighed 10#-2oz
And my daughter is expecting a son in early September ( so she is not smoking until after ) .

Are you still using tasty LEDs ?
Congratulations! My brother had a daughter on the 12th of March! 10-2 is a healthy weight! And, another one in September! I’ll bet you’re proud and excited.
 

Bareback

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Sounds like a badass Dad to me. I only ever got my mom to smoke with me once. It was probably the most carefree and happy I had ever seen her. Whereas she would usually be a giant, manipulative, abusive, self-centered, brooding thundercunt (I reserve the C-word for rare exceptions; apologies, ladies), she laughed until farted, then she laughed because she farted.

Never got her to do it again, because “she’s afraid to lose control.” Meanwhile, she pops her own Oxycodone, Clonazepam, Flexeril, Neurontin, and 50 of her own medications on top of my aunt’s Vicodin. Hell, that was one of the reasons we don’t talk. When I was still using, I was at least paying my aunt for her Vicodin. She’d just walk in there and bully her for them. Then, when she would find my aunt low (I paid $60 for 15-20 10/325s) she would aproach me under the very obvious veneer of fearing for my safety. It was clear to me, she was more concerned I was tapping into her stash.
Sorry it was like that..... I remember reading some of your post a few years ago.

My mom was pretty cool, the first time she caught me stoned.... she yelled go to your room..... I was like awwwwwwww ok. The first time she caught me smoking she grabbed it out of my hand and took a few puffs and gave it back. Then she tells me my weed is shit and said i needed better weed. Well dah...
R.I.P. Mom
 

Olive Drab Green

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Sorry it was like that..... I remember reading some of your post a few years ago.

My mom was pretty cool, the first time she caught me stoned.... she yelled go to your room..... I was like awwwwwwww ok. The first time she caught me smoking she grabbed it out of my hand and took a few puffs and gave it back. Then she tells me my weed is shit and said i needed better weed. Well dah...
R.I.P. Mom
Glad your Mom was a good one. Family’s pretty important to me. Probably the only thing I give a damn about anymore.
 

charface

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Right, I’m not saying it should be used exclusively or as a first line treatment, just that stigma shouldn’t rule it out.
Sorry, I just post without reading sometimes. So if it seams like I might be debating you I wasn't. Lol

But I was speaking about young people.

As for a serious patient it may take weed for their breakthrough. If that is what it takes Im for it at any age
 

Venus55

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New research shows there is 0 long term effects on developing brains and all effects stop and processes return completely to normal 72 hours after cessation of use.

My daughter has the thumbs-up to use cannabis at the same age the state says she can legally control her medical situation independent of my will, which is 14. Unless she is prescribed it earlier, or if I find she’s smoking young. Then, I have to explain to her how to approach this plant maturely, and recommend she vaporize or take measured oral doses rather than smoke (even though I really enjoy smoking.) I want to neither influence/encourage her, nor deter her. But if she needs it, if it helps and doesn’t hinder her, I don’t want her to ever feed or feel the stigma behind it.

Alcohol, I will do everything I can to stress the dangers of, particularly from my own experience.
I won’t be raising my kid “according to recent studies” any which way. If we were to listen to every recent study done it’d be hard to decipher between what’s up and what’s down? There’s new studies every week finding something different to the last.

My decision is based on common sense. And common sense tells me a kid going to school high everyday isn’t going to have the same ability to concentrate and level of memory retention as those who aren’t. So even tho it may not pose any long term risk on the brain, it will effect their overall academic performance if used on a regular basis during schooling years, ultimately determining their future in many ways.

In saying that, in cases like your daughter, I’m PRO “medical” majuana use at any age.
But that’s not what I was referring to.
 

Venus55

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Sounds like a badass Dad to me. I only ever got my mom to smoke with me once. It was probably the most carefree and happy I had ever seen her. Whereas she would usually be a giant, manipulative, abusive, self-centered, brooding thundercunt (I reserve the C-word for rare exceptions; apologies, ladies), she laughed until farted, then she laughed because she farted.

Never got her to do it again, because “she’s afraid to lose control.” Meanwhile, she pops her own Oxycodone, Clonazepam, Flexeril, Neurontin, and 50 of her own medications on top of my aunt’s Vicodin. Hell, that was one of the reasons we don’t talk. When I was still using, I was at least paying my aunt for her Vicodin. She’d just walk in there and bully her for them. Then, when she would find my aunt low (I paid $60 for 15-20 10/325s) she would approach me under the very obvious and thin veneer of fearing for my safety. It was clear to me, she was more concerned I was tapping into her stash.
Fucking hell! That’s full on!
 

Olive Drab Green

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I won’t be raising my kid “according to recent studies” any which way. If we were to listen to every recent study done it’d be hard to decipher between what’s up and what’s down? There’s new studies every week finding something different to the last.

My decision is based on common sense. And common sense tells me a kid going to school high everyday isn’t going to have the same ability to concentrate and level of memory retention as those who aren’t. So even though it may not pose any long term risk on the brain, it will effect their overall academic performance if used on a regular basis during schooling years, ultimately determining their future in many ways.

In saying that, in cases like your daughter, I’m PRO “medical” majuana use at any age.
But that’s not what I was referring to.
Not to be rude or contentious, but you’re wrong about the concentration thing. In fact, Cannabis works better for ADHD than stimulants. Your assertion that it will impact concentration negatively stems from irrational emotion, not common sense. Like any medicine, it may be necessary to build tolerance, but weed can actually improve concentration, without the negative cardiovascular and other biophysiological effects of CNS stimulants, which are used as first line for childhood ADHD.

Your common sense confuses me. You trust your perception more than you care to consult the science, and you claim it as sensibility, and that worries me for our children more than cannabis.
 
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Venus55

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Not to be rude or contentious, but you’re wrong about the concentration thing. In fact, Cannabis works better for ADHD than stimulants. Your assertion that it will impact concentration negatively stems from irrational emotion, not common sense. Like any medicine, it may be necessary to build tolerance, but weed can actually improve concentration, without the negative cardiovascular and other biophysiological effects of CNS stimulants, which are used as first line for childhood ADHD.

Your common sense confuses me. You trust your perception more than you care to consult the science, and you claim it as sensibility, and that worries me for our children more than cannabis.
Let’s clarify something, I’m not talking about kids with ADHD any other conditions. I’m talking about MY kid. And so you’re seriously debating that if my kid goes to classes bent it will have no negative effects on his academic achievement? Yeah nah sorry not buying into that.

There are numerous “recent” studies to back up my opinion and I’ll link them if ur interested. But like I said I don’t care about studies. I smoke and I know how I feel when I smoke. And common sense says to me going to school smashed is not going to result in enhanced or increased learning. Simple. And if for that reasoning you consider my parenting to be questionable then “that worries me for our children more than cannabis”.
 

Sour Wreck

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Let’s clarify something, I’m not talking about kids with ADHD any other conditions. I’m talking about MY kid. And so you’re seriously debating that if my kid goes to classes bent it will have no negative effects on his academic achievement? Yeah nah sorry not buying into that.

There are numerous “recent” studies to back up my opinion and I’ll link them if ur interested. But like I said I don’t care about studies. I smoke and I know how I feel when I smoke. And common sense says to me going to school smashed is not going to result in enhanced or increased learning. Simple. And if for that reasoning you consider my parenting to be questionable then “that worries me for our children more than cannabis”.
depends on the person i guess. in high school we got high everyday before school. i graduated with a 3.2 GPA without bringing a book home. in college, i was just stoned 24 hours a day and when i quit as a senior for a career, i had a 3.75 GPA. smoking the right strain greatly improves my concentration and determination.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Let’s clarify something, I’m not talking about kids with ADHD any other conditions. I’m talking about MY kid. And so you’re seriously debating that if my kid goes to classes bent it will have no negative effects on his academic achievement? Yeah nah sorry not buying into that.

There are numerous “recent” studies to back up my opinion and I’ll link them if ur interested. But like I said I don’t care about studies. I smoke and I know how I feel when I smoke. And common sense says to me going to school smashed is not going to result in enhanced or increased learning. Simple. And if for that reasoning you consider my parenting to be questionable then “that worries me for our children more than cannabis”.
All I’m saying is, don’t convolute your personal emotions for common sense. Don’t get pissy because you’re experiencing cognitive dissonance.

So you buy into the idea that a kid with ADHD or Autism can smoke and excel academically, but a neurotypical & psychologically “normal” kid would somehow suffer ill effects? Get out of here. My grades have improved since I got my medical card and have been allowed to vape in class. With proper parenting and guidance, a kid should not have a problem keeping their grades. Pay attention to your kid, that simple. Don’t blame cannabis for your failure to support your child’s education.
 
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