When did you start smoking with your kids?

ANC

ANC

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I have no problem smoking weed where my daughter can see it.
She knows we do have liquor in the house but she also knows the bottles mostly stay full and we might take it with if we go to a braai or something not to pitch up empty-handed.
My friends are growers so no point going with weed
Guess she can come to her own conclusions.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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My kid is diagnosed with ADHD and bi-polar disorder. He is prescribed Adderall and Seroquel. His personality is noticeably different when he is on his meds, mainly less animated and verbose, but he makes the greatest progress when on them. His insights regarding himself, his grasp of reality, and his ability to concentrate are at their peak. He takes his Adderall regularly, but not the Seroquel, that's sporadic. Weed does him no good except to relax, stimulate his appetite, relieve anxiety to a certain extent. No point to this post really except to throw another anecdote into the ring...
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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tyler.durden said:
My kid is diagnosed with ADHD and bi-polar disorder. He is prescribed Adderall and Seroquel. His personality is noticeably different when he is on his meds, mainly less animated and verbose, but he makes the greatest progress when on them. His insights regarding himself, his grasp of reality, and his ability to concentrate are at their peak. He takes his Adderall regularly, but not the Seroquel, that's sporadic. Weed does him no good except to relax, stimulate his appetite, relieve anxiety to a certain extent. No point to this post really except to throw another anecdote into the ring...
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I hoping that legalization comes and with that more study into various cannabinoids. It was thought that thc was the only psychoactive cannabinoid.

If j remember right it's four are thought to be psychoactive now.

We know that weed affects people different ways and we know that some strains can speed you up.

It might not be a full spectrum of cannabinoids that will work on ADHD. It may isolated or various compounded cannabinoids to work on it.

We may eventually have a complete pharmacopeia on cannabinoids.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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whitebb2727 said:
I hoping that legalization comes and with that more study into various cannabinoids. It was thought that thc was the only psychoactive cannabinoid.

If j remember right it's four are thought to be psychoactive now.

We know that weed affects people different ways and we know that some strains can speed you up.

It might not be a full spectrum of cannabinoids that will work on ADHD. It may isolated or various compounded cannabinoids to work on it.

We may eventually have a complete pharmacopeia on cannabinoids.
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Yep. When MJ is taken off its schedule 1 status so it can be more freely studied, I bet we have a complete pharmacopeia within a few short years...
 
Sour Wreck

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a little off topic, but i live deep behind prohibition lines in rural america and i admitted to my doctor today that i smoked.

think i developed rheumatoid arthritis this last 6 months (runs in the family) and will be given a blood test next week to confirm.

but basically i told him i smoked and thought the CBD really helped with the inflammation.

he asked, what about the other?

i said, the other? oh, THC....

i said, that really helps my attitude and pain as well.

he just kinda smiled. if i didn't know better my doctor has probably done a little partaking himself, lol.

he did not seem opposed to it at all...

and now i set up for a medical prescription when medical reaches the boon docks...

sorry to hijack...

back to the discussion of children. very interesting.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Sour Wreck said:
a little off topic, but i live deep behind prohibition lines in rural america and i admitted to my doctor today that i smoked.

think i developed rheumatoid arthritis this last 6 months (runs in the family) and will be given a blood test next week to confirm.

but basically i told him i smoked and thought the CBD really helped with the inflammation.

he asked, what about the other?

i said, the other? oh, THC....

i said, that really helps my attitude and pain as well.

he just kinda smiled. if i didn't know better my doctor has probably done a little partaking himself, lol.

he did not seem opposed to it at all...

and now i set up for a medical prescription when medical reaches the boon docks...

sorry to hijack...

back to the discussion of children. very interesting.
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I'm in the same boat. Live in the Bible belt. I told my doctor as well. He's cool with it.
 
curious2garden

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cannabineer said:
The first source is an excellent example of why peer reviewed primary sources matter.
theconversation.com is not a peer-reviewed scientific forum, and the author is a "Research Associate in Education". This makes him less likely to have the necessary scientific literacy to discuss this topic, a situation he proves and celebrates with the statement "Busting the “Weed Myths” should not be left to doctors and health practitioners. Pursuing research-based, evidence-informed policy and practice means getting behind those on the front lines of high school education."
Yeah THAT's the ticket! Get rid of those doctors and other people with their annoying numbers! We'll get MUCH better results using people with MY sort of education!"
To find something resembling a fact, I had to dig to the third layer to find this.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4162686/

The second citation is from Newsweek, definitely not a primary source, with the references stripped out and the content filtered through a journalist's perceptions. Another unreviewed synopsis whose collateral aim is to take science out of the hands of scientists.

The third one is published in Substance Abuse Rehabilitation whose title displays no anti-drug bias at all. The first listed name is a postdoc and the second listed is a psychiatrist working for HM Government.

Best not let @Singlemalt see these. He is not only good at dismembering flawed "studies" but also enjoys doing it. He'll damn them more comprehensively than I am inclined to. That is the benefit of getting a science education in an actual science.



This is an abstract of what looks like a review of research. I don't think it says anything to support giving or withholding weed to/from your kids. This is not a study but a literature review. Since I cannot check which cognitive deficits were tracked and how, I cannot judge the quality of the work. I would not draw hard
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Oh my I'd love to have more time right now to spend on this. Unfortunately my life is currently a bottomless pit of work. I do love the part about getting rid of the Doctors so they won't get in the way of the real 'research' done by the EDD's ha ha good one.

In a Schedule 1 world the only way you get access to cannabis for research is to have a demonizing agenda. Yes there are a few exceptions so the government can use them to bolster their 'objectivity'.

@Singlemalt @cannabineer remember the fun we had disarticulating that hypehoser guy? SN is wrong he was that memorable.

My personal opinion on this is nuanced and complex so unable to share, no time. Stay safe in the heat y'all.
 
Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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curious2garden said:
Oh my I'd love to have more time right now to spend on this. Unfortunately my life is currently a bottomless pit of work. I do love the part about getting rid of the Doctors so they won't get in the way of the real 'research' done by the EDD's ha ha good one.

In a Schedule 1 world the only way you get access to cannabis for research is to have a demonizing agenda. Yes there are a few exceptions so the government can use them to bolster their 'objectivity'.

@Singlemalt @cannabineer remember the fun we had disarticulating that hypehoser guy? SN is wrong he was that memorable.

My personal opinion on this is nuanced and complex so unable to share, no time. Stay safe in the heat y'all.
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Wasn't that the guy who got so pissed because the study he cited was so flawed we refused read it further, thus we didn't to do the fucker's homework for him?
 
ANC

ANC

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tyler.durden said:
but not the Seroquel, that's sporadic
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Yeah, I don't blame him, it has a horrible onset, tingling in the knees etc... and it sucks the life out of you.
By the time you develop a little tolerance, you are addicted and can not sleep without it.
 
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