# Ordering and using JWH-018



## ichbins94 (Apr 7, 2013)

Heyho,

1. Where do I order? I live in germany and found a german seller (http://ezchem.biz/special-deals/jwh-018.html) and wondered if there are big quality differences. If not I think i will order 1g from there.
2. How do I use it? I heared 3mg are a normal dose for smoking? 1000mg/3mg= 333 times fun. So if I would take 100g of a herbal mixture and spray the 1g jwh-018 on it would the effect be strong enough, i mean one bong head of the mixture with 0,3g would contain the 3mg so the dose should be ok, right?

greetings

ichbins94


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## Taviddude (Apr 7, 2013)

1 gram of JWH on 56 grams of dried herb as a starting point. 
Disolve in acetone, spray the herb until it's saturated, stir and let dry, spray again, stir and let dry, repeat until your out of JWH/acetone solution.
Let it sit for 6 hours drying before you use it. 24 hours is better.


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 7, 2013)

This obviously may not be what you're trying to do, but I would always just drink the Jwh. I would put a gram or two in a 750 ml bottle of everclear. 1 or 2 ml's of that and your ripped for like 6 hours. Just a suggestion though.


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## ichbins94 (Apr 7, 2013)

thx for ur help tavid
what amount of acetone would u recommend for solving 1g jwh?
Can u also tell me something to my first question?

thx dandilion 
but i need it in a smokable form


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 7, 2013)

You can use the everclear solution just as you would acetone. The everclear evaps just as acetone does. Just another option you could use. Not saying one is better then the other, because I have never used acetone.


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 7, 2013)

As to your first question, I have no where that I can buy it being I am in the U.S and they have a blanket ban. But I would assume if you google something like the title of the thread, you could find something. The two I used to use were Researchchems and jwh-supplier not sure if they're still up.


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## ichbins94 (Apr 7, 2013)

ah ok i missunderstood u 
Ok, but is there a mixture for spraying you could suggest me?


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## ichbins94 (Apr 7, 2013)

btw
Whats ur favorite cannabinoid? have u tried am-2201, jwh-122, ur144, akb-48 or 5f-ur-144?
Do u think jwh-018 is the best choice?


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 7, 2013)

ichbins94 said:


> btw
> Whats ur favorite cannabinoid? have u tried am-2201, jwh-122, ur144, akb-48 or 5f-ur-144?
> Do u think jwh-018 is the best choice?


OOO Yea. 018 is where it is at! I have tried, am 2201, jwh 120, , jwh 018, jwh 081, ur-144 and 018 was a lot better then all of them. Most of them do pretty much the same thing, but the 018 seemed to be a lot more like MJ, and very potent! Really good stuff. When I would use the everclear I would get a pan (13 x 9), fill it with smokeables (tobacco is what I used), Put a spray top of the everclear bottle, give the tobacco 2 or 3 coats, about 15 minutes apart. And it was good to go in a hour. Tasted normal, very potent.


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 7, 2013)

A good thing to try when you first do it is TEST YOUR SAMPLE. Every coat, let it dry, smoke a little bit, see how potent it is. Adjust levels by either adding more or leaving it. Also remember to mix your goods really well or you can get HOT spots. Little clusters of too much fun. lol


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## ichbins94 (Apr 7, 2013)

kk thx.
I dont smoke tobaco, when i smoke weed i usually smoke it pure, so thats no choice for me.
I think I'll buy some knaster how its called in germany http://www.krautrausch.de/knaster/knasterhanf.php (sorry for posting german sites^^) 
Should work out fine, right?
So I just need the base (about 50g knaster), 1g jwh-018 and how much everclear solution or acetone?
I didn't know everclear before, is this what im searching for http://www.argonautliquor.com/r/Items/everclear-grain-alcohol?

edit: what do u think about damiana as base?


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## Trippy Mayne (Apr 7, 2013)

I'm actually glad this crap is banned. To many people I have seen have a seizure and nearly died of this crap. When it says not for Human Consumption it means it.
This and AM-2201 are the MOST dangerous synthetic cannabinoids out there.
I don't even like the high it gives, it's too violent and aggressive. Not fun at all too me, but hey whatever floats your boat man.


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## Trippy Mayne (Apr 7, 2013)

ichbins94 said:


> edit: what do u think about damiana as base?


I actually know a guy who makes his own spice or whatever you want to call it and uses the same method that that one guy said with the Acetone in all except he uses AM instead of JWH because he can't get that since it's banned, but he uses a pound of Damiana leaves and I think a gram of the AM since it's 100x more potent then the JWH, but I also heard of people using catnip as their base aswell.
I personally would use Damiana leaves although I would never touch that shit nor manufacture it. Could do some serious time for that.


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## ichbins94 (Apr 7, 2013)

Yeah i'm also not planning on smoking much spice, but I want to try it.
Maybe I will buy legal industrial hemp 100g/20&#8364; and use this as base.


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## Taviddude (Apr 7, 2013)

ichbins94 said:


> thx for ur help tavid
> what amount of acetone would u recommend for solving 1g jwh?
> Can u also tell me something to my first question?
> 
> ...


Just a few ounces of acetone. 
I would say enough to saturate your herb material at least 3 times. 
You don't want to do it all at once or you can end up with "hot spots" where one bit can be MUCH stronger than the next.
A few ounces of acetone would work fine.


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## Taviddude (Apr 7, 2013)

Trippy Mayne said:


> I actually know a guy who makes his own spice or whatever you want to call it and uses the same method that that one guy said with the Acetone in all except he uses AM instead of JWH because he can't get that since it's banned, but he uses a pound of Damiana leaves and I think a gram of the AM since it's 100x more potent then the JWH, but I also heard of people using catnip as their base aswell.
> I personally would use Damiana leaves although I would never touch that shit nor manufacture it. Could do some serious time for that.


I've run AM-2201 and it's not much stronger than the JWH per gram.
Unless I was getting absolutely crap shit, but I doubt it.


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## Trippy Mayne (Apr 7, 2013)

Taviddude said:


> I've run AM-2201 and it's not much stronger than the JWH per gram.
> Unless I was getting absolutely crap shit, but I doubt it.


You were getting absolute crap. 
AM-2201 is a whole different ball game. This shit is effective in 1mg. Seroiusly, not a force to be wrecken with. And it is 100x stronger then JWH and all the other synthetic cannibinoids.


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## Trippy Mayne (Apr 7, 2013)

Order some real AM off of a RC vendor and see for youself. I actually highly suggest you don't do that, because it's extremley dangerous and it's addicting.


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 8, 2013)

I use a 750 ml bottle of everclear. And yea thats the right stuff


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## rory420420 (Apr 8, 2013)

I know nothing at all about this stuff,other than it seems stupid to risk jail over a substance that mimics a substance that also get you jail time...seems redundant..and,why spray stuff,why not soak it,dry it,soak it again..spraying seems like a waste and an unregulated,variable sized dose at any given area sprayed. Just my 2 cents(don't spend em on spice please)


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## Dandilion Patch (Apr 8, 2013)

rory420420 said:


> I know nothing at all about this stuff,other than it seems stupid to risk jail over a substance that mimics a substance that also get you jail time...seems redundant..and,why spray stuff,why not soak it,dry it,soak it again..spraying seems like a waste and an unregulated,variable sized dose at any given area sprayed. Just my 2 cents(don't spend em on spice please)


Although I somewhat understand your argument, I dont see how soaking would be more efficient and or "regulated" Whether you like it or not the everclear and tobacco are not going to 1. absorb water equally and 2. dry leaving an equal amount of solids on each plant. Soaking also takes 10x as long. As for the illegal part, its the same reason people use LSD, Shrooms and many other substances that are illegal and get you "high" People enjoy trying new things and experimenting and honestly, I hate when people read a thread and reply to someones question by telling them its stupid and they shouldnt do it. Even if you have the best intentions, you are not actually solving the problem and most likely are annoying the thread starter.


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## ichbins94 (Apr 9, 2013)

yüar guys,
didnt't order yet, but i think i'll order 50g legal industrial hemp buds(under 0,2%thc), 1g JWH-018 and ca 3 ounces Aceton,
this should definetely do it for the start, right ?


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## tampee (Apr 11, 2013)

Dandilion Patch said:


> Although I somewhat understand your argument, I dont see how soaking would be more efficient and or "regulated" Whether you like it or not the everclear and tobacco are not going to 1. absorb water equally and 2. dry leaving an equal amount of solids on each plant. Soaking also takes 10x as long. As for the illegal part, its the same reason people use LSD, Shrooms and many other substances that are illegal and get you "high" People enjoy trying new things and experimenting and honestly, I hate when people read a thread and reply to someones question by telling them its stupid and they shouldnt do it. Even if you have the best intentions, you are not actually solving the problem and most likely are annoying the thread starter.


lsd and shrooms are a different story that spice shit is nothing more then synthetic thc I've tried it once and its a piss poor substitute for the real deal. it don't last as long it don't taste good at all and its a nasty chemical. I'd rather stick too my weed as it grows on trees and don't contain harmful chemicals and the high is a lot better and it lasts a lot longer. but if you don't care what goes in your lungs I don't care either and yes I think its stupid especially the amount the OP's talking.


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## ichbins94 (Apr 11, 2013)

tampee said:


> lsd and shrooms are a different story that spice shit is nothing more then synthetic thc I've tried it once and its a piss poor substitute for the real deal. it don't last as long it don't taste good at all and its a nasty chemical. I'd rather stick too my weed as it grows on trees and don't contain harmful chemicals and the high is a lot better and it lasts a lot longer. but if you don't care what goes in your lungs I don't care either and yes I think its stupid especially the amount the OP's talking.


whats stupid about the amount?
i didnt find a seller who sells less then 1g jwh-018 and after the things i read this should be used on 50-60g and thats more then enough for me, i can see nothing stupid about that.


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## tampee (Apr 11, 2013)

ichbins94 said:


> whats stupid about the amount?
> i didnt find a seller who sells less then 1g jwh-018 and after the things i read this should be used on 50-60g and thats more then enough for me, i can see nothing stupid about that.


50-60 grams of that shit is stupid your really gonna smoke all that shit? do you have any idea how bad that shit is? have fun smoking your acetone and other nasty chemicals come back and let us know how the chemical burns feel in your mouth, throat and lungs. I'll stick to my weed that shits for the birds son. not too mention you can grow weed for free and no matter how much you puff you won't get chemical burns.


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## ichbins94 (Apr 11, 2013)

i'm not planning to smoke more then 5g of this myself


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## drickaby (Nov 10, 2013)

Ur144store.co


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## rory420420 (Nov 10, 2013)

I didn't say it was stupid..I said it was stupid to risk jail..read again.

Ill go take a bonghit while you comtemplate.


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## rory420420 (Nov 10, 2013)

And I didn't say not to do it..do what you want. I live in america..just like you should have the right to smoke spice..well the first amendment is cool also.


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## DMTER (Nov 10, 2013)

I hated it when people started talkin about spice...

I was like wtf where is everyone getting all this dmsters.....took me a minute to realize it was this shit

I am bringing back spice....spice for life....fuck all that synthetic cannabis shit


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## rory420420 (Nov 11, 2013)

Well its now illegal and they test for it..the two pro arguments for this substance are now gone..maybe the 3rd was you could get it easy but now you can't...hmm...


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## Kervork (Nov 11, 2013)

Hmmm.. It's illegal. It's addictive. It's tested for. If does wierd shit to your lungs. You will find yourself binging on it because it doesn't last very long. If you accidentally get a hit that's too large you will wind up on the floor convulsing.

Having dealt with quantities of this shit I won't touch it again. The only redeeming value I can think of is you can mix is with acetone and drizzle on a cigarette and smoke it when you're in a bar and can't smoke weed. 

I have reason to believe some of the mexican cartels have been adding this to their crap weed now to make it seem stronger.


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## rory420420 (Nov 11, 2013)

I also believe this about adding to schwag..good thing I haven't seen schwag in years.


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## Flister (May 16, 2018)

Dandilion Patch said:


> This obviously may not be what you're trying to do, but I would always just drink the Jwh. I would put a gram or two in a 750 ml bottle of everclear. 1 or 2 ml's of that and your ripped for like 6 hours. Just a suggestion though.


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## smokiemcbowl (Jun 11, 2018)

or you can just smoke real bud? lol

I personally smoked a SHIT LOAD of spice (no joke an 1/8th at least everyday for about 2 yrs...) and it was good and all but cannabis is way better. why try and make something that the earth has already done for you? 

Not sure if i did any long term damage to myself but i really regret smoking any of it. Dont get me wrong i had a lot of fun but now i look back on it and cant really think anything else but to wonder if this shit is gonna fuck me off in the long run. I figure if something was wrong itd show up by now but who knows.


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## Nikkibaby (Apr 3, 2021)

ichbins94 said:


> ah ok i missunderstood u
> Ok, but is there a mixture for spraying you could suggest me?


When you get it all worked out can you please pm me? I joined this forum to ask the same shit your asking for maybe same reason maybe not.. Dont matter but im tired of going thru these forums an getting nowher.. Im not a cop just a chick trying to get high an help my friendswho wanna get high but cant help themselves cuz they are otherwise engaged if u get what im sayin id appreciate your insight


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## xwant2LeaRNx (May 29, 2021)

Wow taking it way back huh 2013 asking about jwh018 just wow... Fucking spice heads man I tell you what !!!!


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## Doggywrld (Jan 3, 2022)

Do it really work and is if the best


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## Moabfighter (Jan 7, 2022)

xwant2LeaRNx said:


> Wow taking it way back huh 2013 asking about jwh018 just wow... Fucking spice heads man I tell you what !!!!


2013? 018 is some 2010 shit. Man highschool was…. A blur.


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## Mr.incognito (Jan 8, 2022)

I'm looking for a vendor for 018 if someone can point me in the right direction I feel the am is too potent


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## Mr.incognito (Jan 8, 2022)

Moabfighter said:


> 2013? 018 is some 2010 shit. Man highschool was…. A blur.


I'm trying to go back to the high school days


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