Well, what is it about LEDs that makes them bad for growing pot? You said they were good for other plants, but not pot. You stated that as a fact, yet the best you've come up with to back it up is "I aint never seen no good LEDs grows". Lets talk about the light. Did you know todays Cree dye LEDs will put out 4x the photons per watt of the best HPS? What about wavelengths? You HPS growers are always bringing that up when someone mentions flowering with MH HIDs.
From the pics of your grow room, and lack of mylar, I'd say your gardening skillz still need some work. This isn't my first LED grow. I know they work and I know how they work best. My colas aren't huge, but that has more to do with the grow style (ScrOGish) than the lights.
You mention you need lots of air movement to strengthen your stalks. If you had more blue, your plants wouldn't be so stretchy and that wouldn't be an issue. But of course, if you didn't have a lot of air flow, your plants would fry...
That Jack Herer has 16 branches, plus the top. Each one will produce about a dry 1/8th... This one may do less, because I sprayed 2 branches with ionic silver to force it to make male flowers... so I can make some feminized seeds... I'm hoping to still hit the 2 oz mark though...
I know you want to reply, "but show me buds!". If you do, you will end up on my ignore list because you clearly aren't reading/understanding my posts. I'm posting a grow log now, there will be lots of pics of the harvest, but you have to wait... If that's not good enough for you, then that's too bad. LEDs don't make the plant grow any faster... It won't stop my buds from growing if you don't believe in them... I'll get just as high weither you like LEDs or not, lolz...
Seriously though, get some mylar. Proper reflection and you can double the amount of light your plants get... And it adds side light, which will lower your red/far red ratio and your plants will stretch less...
-Loki
Yeah you're totally right, because i use panda plastic, which is less than half the cost of mylar, doesnt crinkle, and is rugged enough to be held up with staples, I dont have a fucking clue. I'm interested in things that work well with low maintenance and a low price, not alot of hyped up garbage, which is obviously where we differ.
Get fucked man, you talk a big game, but when it comes down to it, you're just some asshole whos growing one gnarly plant. Its actually kind of surprising that you have the balls to keep throwing claims at me.
"If i had more blue..."
Like the blue spectrum the 400w mh i use to veg has? for someone with so much knowledge you really are not very smart are you?
"My colas aren't huge, but that has more to do with the grow style (ScrOGish) than the lights."
It may be true that your colas are smaller because you have a Scrog going, but i've seen plenty of Hid growers with HUGE buds in screen of green, why not yours?
You're also right that i want to come back with "show me the buds" I dont even care of they're your buds, just any fat buds grown with LEDs would be sufficient to prove to me that it can be done. I'm not trying to argue that you're a shittier grower than me (although you seem bent on proving the opposite), just that your lights aren't as useful as mine
LEDS are better than HIDS!!! YOU stated that as a fact, yet the best you've come up with to back it up is lots of heresay, some videos that wont load, and a grow journal with a tiny little plant with next to no bud that you're using for breeding ( i give you the benefiet of the doubt that you'll come out with feminized seeds, but i woundlt be half surprised to see you end up with 200 hermie beans). Which for the record looks like shit and could have been grown under a couple t8s without any problems.
Im done with this shit, i was hoping to see something redeeming about LEDs, all i have learned is that you're more interested in cutting me down than you are in preaching the good word. So enjoy your x-mas lights, im gonna go bask in the warm, comforting glow of my archaic dinosaur lamp and the multiple ounces of bud growing under it. If you're the best representative LED growers have its gonna set the whole movement back years. Because in the end, people (specifically me) dont give two shits if you tell me you grew alot of tight nugs under leds, IF I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM, THEY ARE WORTHLESS AS AMMUNITION!
I've read claims of 90w panels being equivilent to 400w hps'. Even if this is true (which i doubt) Why the F would someone pay $400 dollars for this? my 400w hps cost me $89 including reflector. MY 400w Mh $89, hell, my 1000w hps was only $250. So pretty much i got all my lights (one i dont even need to use anymore) for the price of one commercially available possible equivilent to a 400. Maybe you have some secret recipee for an amazing $75 panel that works wonders, but as of yet, i haven't seen any wonders, or even anything close to what an average joe grower can get with a single 400 or even 250 hid. This is obviously not going to be the experience that changes my mind though, cause instead of trying to make a case based on solid anything you're more concerned with petty shit!
Good luck hiding your grow from your mom and getting those 2oz, i'm gonna go smoke a gigantic blunt that won't even put a dent in my bag thanks.
I hope noone is gullible enough to listen to the bullshit you spew!
Having said that, i wish you no ill, and if you have some evidence of effective LEDs i'd still love to see it.
