SpaaaceCowboy
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yes the longer you vegg the greater your yield will be
Top breeders?
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st0wandgrow
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http://www.seedsman.com/en/peyote-purple-regular-seeds
I just picked up a pack of these. This strain might be of interest to you
I just picked up a pack of these. This strain might be of interest to you
greasemonkeymann
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genetics are the number ONE thing to NEVER overlook! it's always gonna put a ceiling on your grow capabilities.
You'll never, ever, EVER get a strain with 20% thc, out of a strain that genetically is only capable of 13%. Or get a KG out of one plant that is simply not a hevey yielder.
It's the one of the FIRST things I learned, always start with good genetics, and then tweak the particular plant the way YOU want it to grow, hydro/organic/led/ whatever.
Number one thing. No doubt.
tip top toker
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Because it might hold true for your experience, but it is not true for everyones experience. saying you will find a keeper in every pack, it's nonesense. take a look at the number of people who've created a thread asking why their entire pack was shit.
And again. Not everyone wants to buy and run a 5 pack. Myself included. I want to be able to buy 1 feminized seed, run it, and get a good product, this is not always the case. GHS strawberry haze (grew 2) utter and total waste of my time, TGA Void (grew 1) utter waste of time, GHS church (grew 1) utter waste of time, seedsman? cali hash (grew 1) utter waste of time. So if i were to ask for a good breeder or strain, i would not want to be recommended something that maay require 5 or 10 attempts to find something worth smoking.
gabechihua
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Top Breeders? The world only has one king of cannabis. 
OGEvilgenius
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There are so few lines that don't require some selection.
tip top toker
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But there are certainly breeders, where you know that if you plant it, it may not be the keeper, as per the following comment, but it will still be a great smoke. There are a good number of breeders where there is every chance the smoke won't even be any good.
I agree, I kept the same one for my whole time growing. But you still grow other things alongside, to see what there is, and to keep things changing. I had about a year of smoking almost nothing but exodus cheese, and it eventually became like a cigarette. But one joint of a new and good strain, and I'd be back to a stoned mess. Why I sometimes like my dealer. There is no negotiation or choice, just a price. Ever week or two its something different.
skunkd0c
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i normally grow seeds keeping the best from the last run to run as a clone alongside the new seeds
its not often i keep them for more than 2 or 3 runs in the last 5-6 years i have kept two plants
angel heart from MNS and biker kush from karma genetics these ones both stood out for flavour
many of the others were good but nothing special to me
i like to keep changing strains for different flavours mostly
i got into the habit many years ago of not buying weed its way to expensive so i do not get to sample much of the weed out their , other than what i grow or what other growers send me for the most part, i find most of the street weed folk show me that i have sampled seems pretty potent but it looks immature and lacks crystals lol always pretty smelly though
BadInfluence
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For a breeder recommendation i can only repeat what has already been mentioned and go with the cheaper ones to start with. Greenhouse seeds is more hit and miss, i would do good research before buying one of theirs. Pyramid Seeds has a pretty good rep and reasonable prices.
LOL that's a good one. Some people really think they can charge others for crossing 2 plants because they've done it first. I'm sure the first law suits are already in the pipeline. Carry on like this and in 5 years Monsanto will take over the weed business in the US. Roundup ready.
st0wandgrow
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Yes. I was just informed of this recently. Apparently using a male from a pack of seeds to pollenate another plant is stealing their intellectual property.
I wonder if they frown upon taking clones too?
BadInfluence
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This is laughable. How would they ever be able to prove anything like this? Are they going to check every breeder's stuff and if they find "their" genetics they sue them?
I mean, i'm sure they will find "their" stuff elsewhere because they got it from somewhere else in the first place. Or have they watermarked their self invented gene sequence? Hahaha utter idiots they are.
Edit:
Mental note: cross Gage Green off shopping list
st0wandgrow
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To be fair, this wasn't an "official" representative of Gage that brought this to my attention. It was a tester for Gage...a very highly regarded one.
BadInfluence
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OK fair enough. I'll keep my eyes open though, any breeder jumping on that train and officially supports such an attitude is not getting my support.
Amos Otis
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I thought I knew who you referring to until the last part.
st0wandgrow
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I thought I knew who you referring to until the last part.
The sarcasm was apparent?
hydroMD
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Actually plants do have traceable DNA. And its not laughable because every element in legal agriculture is already like this. Universities are constantly developing new strains of wheat, barley, corn etc. With the hope of finding something that grows better in specific climates. Once youve developed a strain of anything in demand, you get royalties from anyone that grows it under regulation....
Cannabis will be the same.
Monsanto has sued amd taken century farms from families because theor GMO's cross pollinated with regular crops, which was copyright enfringent.
They have stolen thousands of acres of peoples land by doing this in the midwest.
Adrosmokin
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I'd love someone to go to federal court over the genetics of a Schedule 1 drug. What about the person who bred the stuff that breeder was working with? If anything, you'd have to take something multiple generations to make it more your "own". Even then, what if two breeders are working with the same cuts? Is pheno selection enough to make a difference in testing? In the future I could see it maybe protecting "cuts", exact copies that someone is trying to rename. But stopping people from breeding with them is crazy.