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tell me something about bho

Discussion in 'Concentrates and Extracts' started by beginner420, Jun 21, 2013.

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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    Can anyone here tell me something cool about bho? Or ways to make it better? Also wondering if anyone knows how you would go about making bho with some kief without blowing yourself up
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    Thundercat

    Thundercat Well-Known Member

    Use alcohol instead of butane, its waay safer. You can put the kief directly into the alcohol, and then filter out any solids, then evaporate the alcohol and your left with cannabis oil. You can you tube QWISO for a tutorial.
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    Fadedawg

    Fadedawg Well-Known Member

    I would use a thermos to extract the kif with butane. As far as not blowing yourself up, here is some butane safety information that will help, if followed:

    Hi ya’ll! Have ya’ll been watching the folks blowing themselves and their homes up using butane extraction techniques, thus leading you to believe that such an attempt is suicidal?

    Thank Gawd (Great Spirit) that paying attention to details reduces the odds to limits that you might embrace, after being thus enlightened. May we discuss, before you give up all BHO extraction attempts in deference to your family and home?

    Clearly Butane is inflammable and can be explosive, if confined in a small space and supplied with about 1.86 to 8.41 percent butane to atmospheric air content and an ignition source.In addition, ignition sources come from a number of different unexpected sources, so let’s discuss that issue.For starters, I never personally do a butane extraction indoors or any confined space!

    None at all, zero, zip, forget about it! It is important to keep it below explosive limits!
    I do it all outdoors, with a non sparking plastic fan blowing, not sucking, the butane evaporation away! Butane loves self abuse and will clump together and pool, being that it is heavier than air.I use three fans to keep any free butane dispersed below ignition limits of 1.86% and from it pooling and accumulating in low spots like through my basement window to my basement, chock full of ignition sources.

    The central point is that concentration of the butane boiling off can be kept diluted below combustion limits, by blowing the accumulating vapors away using a fan.
    Secondly, let’s talk about stupid ignition sources.

    Despite previous discussions, I have literally grabbed the hands of cigarette smokers poised to light a cigarette while extracting. What can I say about addicts whom go on automatic pilot and forget where they are?

    Leave your cigarettes and lighter elsewhere
    Lose the lighter and cigarettes (bong?) if you are an addict! Once the pin is pulled on a 5 second grenade, it is not your friend!

    All pretty simple, but lets talk about subtleties! How about sparks?

    Starting simple, dragging your feet on concrete with gravel imbedded in your shoes can create a spark.


    Wearing plastic clothing, especially socks, can also build up and discharge a static electricity spark, especially on cold dry days.Unless it is an explosion proof fan, always blow, instead of suck the vapors away, not only for efficiency reasons, but because the sparks from an electric motor slip ring can ignite the vapors.

    Always use plastic or other spark proof blades, because a grain of sand can spark when hitting a steel blade, and be propelled into the concentrated vapors.Always keep a fully charged and recently inspected fire extinguisher on hand.

    Shit sometimes happens and less shit is better, as I see it!


    Never had to use one at home, though I have in industry, and they can’t be beaten when they are called for!


    If you get inadvertently sprayed with butane, stop, and go change clothes. Immolating as I sees it, is highly overrated!
    Keep a blanket on hand, and if you do get unexpectedly ignited, immediately wrap yourself in it to extinguish the flames.

    The good news is that none of the above has ever happened to me, or any of my friends who pay close attention and try their very best to avoid it.

    Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

    lol long post..."say something about" well its fairly fool proof, pretty hard not to end up with good product, but to get rid of residue you should really vaccum it or winterize it would be better. it doesnt like to pick up much chlorophyll and likes to pick up thc over the others..i personally prefer qwiso as its much safer, evaps clean doesnt really select any cannabinoid over the other, doesnt have to be purged to get rid of any residue
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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    How would you use a thermos to extract it? And I know alcohol extraction is easier and safer bit I've been told that butane is the most pure and tasty
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    I read on another forum you can do it with a thermos, by poking holes in the lid of that pouring the butane in there freezing it and then putting into Pyrex to burn off butane
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    yes you can
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    Poke 3 holes in the top of the thermos, 1 in the middle of the lid for the can of butane and 2 on either side of the first hole so the pressure can escape. Empty a can or 2 of butane into the thermos, the thermos will keep the temps down so the butane remains in its liquid state. Then dump your keif into the thermos, only after you have put all the butane you want into the thermos, do not put butane in after you have put material in the thermos. Then i would place it into the freezer for about 20 mins, after it has soaked take it out of the freezer remove lid and place 3 to 5 coffee filters, the only reason i would suggest so many is because of how fine the material is that you are starting with, with a rubber band around the mouth of the thermos, then flip upside down over a pyrex dish. The temp increase will cause the butane to off gas and force the liquid butane through the filters and onto you pyrex. Put the cans of butane the thermos and the material in the freezer the night before for the best results.
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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    Ok ya that's what the other one said, is that cannabutter in your profile pic?
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    no that is wax i made from some romulan
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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    Oh shit looks pretty nutty, you have a vacuum pump/chamber?
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    Guzias1

    Guzias1 Well-Known Member

    This guy dont mess with that shit, he whips the hell out of it, thus his name "Twitch"

    youtube it, "twitch whip"
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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    I couldnt find it, maybe cause I'm on my phone anyway you could post a link?
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    hahaha hes fucking with you i dont whip shit, yea i have a vac chamber the whole 9
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    beginner420

    beginner420 Member

    Haha I was thinkin that cause I whip my bho and it doesn't turn out anything like that
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    vacpurge

    vacpurge New Member

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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    he does alot of stuff different then us lol
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    vacpurge

    vacpurge New Member

    I read all morning about budderking and budder... man, people sure dont like that guy. or budder. as much as I like it, I think you guys will find this an interesting read

    you wanna know something about BHO... heres my excerpt, not my words. someone elses that I find interesting:

    "This thread is simply being made out of the necessity to inform the oil vapers on TC who have been making budder about the terrible crimes they have been committing. Recently there has been a huge influx of BHO and oil is exploding in general, as well there has been a huge rise in the amount of people specifically buddering up there BHO,which is the biggest no no in the book. Sure some of you will take this as hating, others will ridicule this thread. But the majority of legit oil vapors will fully back me on this.

    Budder, which is whipped BHO is criminal. Budder is an completely unstable version of oil and should be completely frowned upon when it rather celebrated about.

    When Oil is in the budder state it is degrading at unreal rate compared to shatter. Oil is always degrading but when in the budder state it is MUCHfaster. What this means is your oil is losing valuable terpenes. Your oil is losing its , FLAVOR, POTENCY, FUNK and bottom end KICK. People think oh my oil stinks so much it must be the greatest oil in the world. No that's just your oil dieing.

    Besides the fact that your oil is dieing. BUDDER IS A BITCH Shatter, Rock, Hard, Clear, maybe softer... whatever state other than budder is 1000x easier to deal with. Oil sits in your dish if its soft ya just dab a hit beautifully. If the oil is rock hard, simply place the oil dish behind your torch as its heating ur ti, it very very gently melts and you dab a hit out of the candy. When dabbing budder your dealing with crumbs. Little pieces of cakey cookie like pieces of shit. They dont attach to the dabber. They dont stay on the dabber. It makes it impossible to accurately dab a proper hit, and is just a pain in the ass. Alot of people will say, just quickly torch your dish and it will melt and then dab. But then your killing off valuable terps and ruining your oil your self! I cannot stress enough how much dabbing and dealing budder is compared to stable oil.

    Have you guys ever ran oil in the rain? Or maybe spilt a little water in ur dish somehow? Have u vaped oil with water in it? Well it sucks, it sizzles, tastes like shit, ruins the oil. Oil that auto budders does so because there is moister in it, this is BAD. Purge to short, BUDDER. Purge to long BUDDER. Budder is NOT good. I basicly am trying to inform those out there who are buddering there own oil up TO STOP! As a rule of thumb, stable oil will last 3 weeks before degrading to the point of the return but use 2 weeks as marker if you can. Budder has just a few days less than can be counted on one hand b4 its past its expiration date.

    As sort of proof budder is a degraded version of stable oil. Take the kut pipe for instance or any oil setup. When reclaim gets stuck in the bell it completely resembles the characteristics of stable oil, just darker and runnier. Then look at the reclaim that makes it thru the bell into the body of the unit. The reclaim is now budder which is 100% the result that the moisture is causing the degrade of stable oil. That is because it has degraded. Only further proof that budder is a sub par degraded version of oil.

    Closing. I have not even come close to delving into the scientific nature on auto budder, moister, etc. I am no scientist and do not want to talk out of my ass. Hopefully the points I bring across are enough to convince some of you budders to stop. "
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    Thundercat

    Thundercat Well-Known Member

    Very interesting. I've noticed tha hate people have for the budderking too. I think part of it is the way he originally talked about it being a secret recipe and stuff in the one article. Is budder really harder to dab, or handle, I had thought it would be easier. The guys at the cup that had buddder type concentrates, had it broken up a bit, and just warmed the end of the dabber and the crumbs stuck right to it to be dabbed. Maybe shatter is more what I want I don't know just getting deeper into it all.

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