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beginner420

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I looked at walmart for a thermos but couldn't find anything like that, I reran the Kief today and I got .64 haha but i onlh used like 1/4 can of butane
 

WarMachine

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Recently I saw a cute trick, by which someone took the down stem out of their pipe and heated the lower end red hot, before sticking it in some oil and sucking up the vapors through the down stem. Necessity can change our views overnight.............
Hahaha your welcomeee :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:!! Very handy trick :) Did you try the car vape yet??
 

WarMachine

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I looked at walmart for a thermos but couldn't find anything like that, I reran the Kief today and I got .64 haha but i onlh used like 1/4 can of butane
I got one of these off eBay for a little under ten dollars. I haven't tried it yet but I think it should work out well. Don't mind the puppy beef in the crate wondering what I am doing :)

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WarMachine

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He was in there for a time out, he tried to eat my moms shoe. The crate he is in is actually pretty big, not as big as freedom but he can stand up on all fours with no problem. Trust me I love animals that's why I've been working with them for 8+ years. Besides you can see the guilt in his eyes lol.

And yes dogs are amazing. He's a puppy boxer. Not only in their heroic deeds but just the presence they bring. He's my anti drug lol.
 

vacpurge

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hahaha k cool. sorry man just a crazy crazy dog lover here, ive had one for 17 years and shes on her last few months now and I havnt cried in a long time, but it made a grown man cry the other day hearing that that lump in her stomach is a big cancer lump and shes only got months left. broke my heart and I never thought id ever say that. I remember getting her when I was ten and she was the size of an egg. so ive been different towards dogs these past few weeks, not just mine. but all of them.

but yeah, he does look guilty and like hes in trouble haha.
 

WarMachine

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It's cool vac it's understandable, i'm sorry to hear about your dog being sick :( all you can do is make it the best time of her life. 17 years is a long good life so I'm sure she is very happy and loved. I haven't had my pup for nearly that long but there is always that connection that I just don't think a person can have with any other person. They are awesome pets. Especially when trained for special needs, we help out a program/company called dogs4diabetics, these dogs can are trained to sense when glucose levels are dropping in people with diabetes. They are special animals indeed. He can be a trouble maker but who isnt ;)

Sorry for thread jacking!
 

WarMachine

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Made a batch using a jar with 3 holes, finally got around to scraping it today. I used sugar trim and some little nugs (everything was free so why not) butane I used was Vector. Let it stay in the butane for 30 minutes. FD said you can leave it for up to two hours so I think I might try that next time. Came out pretty well though, nice amber color to it and tastes pretty good.

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I didn't winterize it though,is that something you are supposed to do right away? I'm still debating if I like the BHO method or the qwISO method more to be honest. They both have their pro's and con's.
 

Fadedawg

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hahaha k cool. sorry man just a crazy crazy dog lover here, ive had one for 17 years and shes on her last few months now and I havnt cried in a long time, but it made a grown man cry the other day hearing that that lump in her stomach is a big cancer lump and shes only got months left. broke my heart and I never thought id ever say that. I remember getting her when I was ten and she was the size of an egg. so ive been different towards dogs these past few weeks, not just mine. but all of them.

but yeah, he does look guilty and like hes in trouble haha.
Sorry to hear about your pup! Someone said that, "the problem with dogs, is that they don't live very long; their only fault really."

I grew up with Boxers, but now we are on generation six with our German Shepherds, which has broken my heart five times so far. They dig a deep hole in your heart, that a new pup can't possibly fill, so the new pup just digs a hole right long side it, just as wide and deep.

As I start my eighth decade, Sweet Lola is six, which statistically means that I will get my heart broken at least one more time before dying myself. I am not looking forward to that and if the pups didn't more than compensate for the pain of their leaving, I would have given up after the first.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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*You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Fadedawag again”

Lol

FD!.. you are truly inspirational.
 

WarMachine

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Whoever said that about dogs is right, that is the only "problem"I have with dogs. They make a impact on your life that you can never replace (even with another pup, no two dogs are the same, similar maybe). I've had a rottweiler and now my boxer puppy. Shepherds are beautiful dogs too, all dogs are in their own way. Its one of the flaws of my job too.. you see some puppies come and very sadly you see some go :-( can't help but shed a tear especially when you make that bond.
 

mda232

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I love my dog lol, I honestly cried harder when he died unexpectedly than when my fiancee did (fucked up, I know). the new puppy hasn't filled that hole like I thought it would, but you're right fade it's the same thing but in a different way.
 

jrainman

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titanium is the tenth most abundant metal in the world. I dont see why its so expensive. I think youre just paying for the name most of the time.

I got a nail from the bong store for 30$ which is a little expensive as far as im concerned (not like HEs 85$ nail) and my nail works awesome. tastes good and no complaints.

one guy told me, which makes sense.

"Titanium is not very expensive it is the 9th most abundant source on the planet. It's in the top ten. Just google for this information. Google "How abundant is titanium" I come from michigan, a Automotive state we have many machine shops here we are a machinist state. I work direct with manufactures."[/QUOTE

To help you understand why finished titanium is expensive you have to realize how hard it is to work with titanium ,weather it is polished, forged ,drilled or machined , it takes lots more time to forge (labor) when drilling and cutting titanium you have to use the most expensive bits and tooling and they don't even hold up that long ,sanding titanium can only be done with nickel oxide sanding equipment. So you see the cost is there in the fabrication of titanium .

the other thing I will say is that No such thing about (seasoning titanium ) I am not even going to entertain a answer for that one other then BS , Now when you apply heat what happens in the first stage of heating the titanium will turn to a yellow color ,what is going on is you are creating a oxidized coating ,as you heat it more it will go through color changes each adding a layer of oxidation ,but the weird thing is that after a certain point of heating titanium will always revert back to yellow.

I am explaining this to you for the simple reason that titanium does not go bad , the problems you are having is from the layers of coating you are applying when heating the titanium . All you need to do is Acid bath the coating off ,yes there is a acid bath process and this process is the only way to strip of the oxide coating off the titanium. if you do this your Nail will be just as good as the first day you bought it.

I don't know the formula off hand ,I do have it somewhere in my shop (list ) I will post it back here when I find it, or you might be able to do a search for it ,Being jewelers use this process a lot with titanium ,you might start there .
 

Guzias1

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You make me want to run my wood sander on my nail. Just to see if it's real.

but then again I dont..
 

Fadedawg

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Titanium is expensive because it takes so much energy to separate the Titanium from the Oxygen, when it is refined from Titanium Dioxide ore.

It is also extremely reactive in a pure state, and will even burn like magnesium or zirconium when stretched into thin ribbons. All refining has to be done under deep vacuum or inert atmosphere.

The most common Ti alloy found is 6AL4V, because it is used for structural components in aircraft and because the Solviet Union dumped mega tons of it on the market as scrap, when they decommissioned their submarine fleet. It is 6% Aluminum and 4% Vanadium, with the balance CP Ti.

The most expensive and rare Ti on the market, is Commercially Pure, or CP, because it is made from ore and there is very little scrap available.

Grade 2 CP Titanium is what the good nails and skillets are made of. They have no alpha case as received and it is up to the buyer to build one, before using. You can use it as is, but you will definitely taste the Titanium.

We season a nail or skillet, by heating it in the atmosphere to incandescent and letting the Nitrogen and Oxygen in the air build a nitrite and oxide layer, which is highly inert.

As you heat it, it first turns golden, because Nitrogen is the most common gas in the atmosphere, and Titanium Nitrites are golden. Observable Titanium Nitrites start to form at about 100 parts per millionth atmospheric contamination when heated.

There is less oxygen in the atmosphere, so the Oxygen colors come in after the golden after the 100 ppm level, and form reds, blues, and finally grey colors.

Once you have reach grey, the Titanium is no longer reactive.

You can also coat the nail or skillet with cannabis oil and burn it off, to form Titanium Carbides, which will also tie up the Titanium atom in a stable non reactive state.

The Titanium nail or skillet should outlast its owner. It won't if you regularly clean the nail with acid, as that removes the surface and eventually there won't be any left. I recommend just brushing it off.

The acids used to chemically mill Titanium, are a Nitric/Hydrofluoric Acid mixture. Around 10% HN03, 2.5% HF, some surfactant, and the balance water. Nothing you want to be anywhere around without proper safety gear and ventillation, as HF will even dissolve glass.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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Damn FD..

I swear... I learn something new from you everyday.

Considering that I have dedicated the last 8 months or so to learning, each spare moment I have...

That statement is that of remarkable nature.
 

Fadedawg

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Damn FD..

I swear... I learn something new from you everyday.

Considering that I have dedicated the last 8 months or so to learning, each spare moment I have...

That statement is that of remarkable nature.
It helps that I used to build factories and develop processes for casting Titanium aerospace and medical parts. One of the few advantages of being really ooooold, is that you've done more thangs and accumulated more trivia.

Senior discount is the other advantage and I can't think of any more.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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^ Man...lmao....too funny.

Thank you for sharing your wisdom with the cannabis community.

I know, I've appreciated your contributions whole-heartedly.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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So, I JUST got a huge, thick Ti nail.

I had a question regarding seasoning.

What's the most efficient means of seasoning this BIG ass nail.

It's super thick, also.

I'm thinking my little pencil torch isn't going to” cut it” with this nail.
Do I need to upgrade my torch, having such a gigantic nail?

Tried vaping after heating/cooling once, and then I waited for it to cool, put a glob of reclaim in the nail cold and burnt off the claim.
Still the oil didn't vape correctly.

Should I just heat and til red then hit the nail with reclaim?

Never dealt with a nail of this mass.
 
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