LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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mattman

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pr0fesseur said:
Ah gotcha! sorry its late and i didnt know you had LED currently... i think led as side lighting is almost a wasteWhat i mean is I would try to put it facing UP into the canopy... bottom lighting! considering LED has a short light throw below canopy would be more beneficial.. leaves absorb light from any direction but light entering the parallel to the leaf would give better coverage and use of the lamp..
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Gotcha, should have thought of that my self. I am going to finish my current cactus grow with the LED... and will def be buying a 8unit t5, with the bulbs we discussed earlier.... I knew I should have went t5 from the beginning, but with all the speculation I didnt want to risk it... Thank the plant gods yah came around to put some effort in t5.

Something I have been considering

Getting decent sized cabinet, and lining these t5's on all sides with screens around them so that there is complete light saturation... similar to the unit earlier in the thread
 
reverof

reverof

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I just checked the girls and all seem to be doing well... I will do another update tomorrow about 2pm as I did today.

I do like the wavelength for the fiji purple, BUT... the price on that bulb is about rediculous $30 a bulb. I would have to see amazing results form that bulb to even consider it, as I have 1 6 bulb fixture and 2 8 bulb fixtures.

Btw I just got done reading about the ATI pro color & the fiji purple, both are manuf by Sylvania for their respected companies, fiji purple is by far a better bulb all around (between the 2) as the pro color. And the use of thr pro color is almost redundant if using fiji purple, the fiji just has a large addition to the 650nm area where pro color lightly hits around 615nm here is a great page including graphs. http://reefgizmo.com/2011/01/kz-fiji-purple-vs-ati-purple-plus/
 
reverof

reverof

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I just have to say I am disappointed that we can't get more people involved in this. I know tons are using T5's and are most just straight not willing to test or listen or see another aspect then, 3000k bulbs and 6000k bulbs?
 
rick19011

rick19011

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So how much cheaper is it to grow like this compared to buying an LED panel then?
I know LED prices vary but what kind of saving would be made if going down this route?
 
mellokitty

mellokitty

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personally i'd be more interested in those industrial dealies they're putting in hoity-toity restaurants getting on the "grow your own ingredients" bandwagon.... (hang on a sec, i forget what they're called...)
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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rick19011 said:
So how much cheaper is it to grow like this compared to buying an LED panel then?
I know LED prices vary but what kind of saving would be made if going down this route?
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I dont own LED so i can t tell you how much cheaper. what i can tell you is theres better penetration and more light output! at a fraction of the cost!
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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reverof said:
I just checked the girls and all seem to be doing well... I will do another update tomorrow about 2pm as I did today.

I do like the wavelength for the fiji purple, BUT... the price on that bulb is about rediculous $30 a bulb. I would have to see amazing results form that bulb to even consider it, as I have 1 6 bulb fixture and 2 8 bulb fixtures.

Btw I just got done reading about the ATI pro color & the fiji purple, both are manuf by Sylvania for their respected companies, fiji purple is by far a better bulb all around (between the 2) as the pro color. And the use of thr pro color is almost redundant if using fiji purple, the fiji just has a large addition to the 650nm area where pro color lightly hits around 615nm here is a great page including graphs. http://reefgizmo.com/2011/01/kz-fiji-purple-vs-ati-purple-plus/
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Pro Color has been discontinued i am now using the RED SUN bulbs by uvl..
the fuji purple is the ONLY bulb like it!
There are ONLY a handful of light bulb manufacturers
sylvania and GE being the biggest.
 
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Hasbroh

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I'm getting pretty excited about your experiment. Woke up in the middle of the night thinking about a 5'l x 5'w x 8'h cabinet, 4 plants. Lights up top and sides and one in the middle the way some growers place their HPS bulbs. It would require a custom frame. Can you place the ballists outside of the grow room?
 
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mattman

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well pro, i went ahead and bought the 8 lights, along with 5 extra incase they go out or get damaged for what ever reason. I still cant find your fixture though, searched ebay and google.
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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Hasbroh said:
I'm getting pretty excited about your experiment. Woke up in the middle of the night thinking about a 5'l x 5'w x 8'h cabinet, 4 plants. Lights up top and sides and one in the middle the way some growers place their HPS bulbs. It would require a custom frame. Can you place the ballists outside of the grow room?
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Ballasts dont produce that much heat... and they dont have long leads. HOWEVER there are "kits "like" this one where you can DIY


Special Pricing for DIY KIT
DIY KIT 1
Dual x 24W Kit
1no of Dual x 24W E-ballast (Elbiru)
4nos of BJB Waterproof End-caps
2nos of 2Ft T5 parabolic spider reflectors (complete with plastic holder)
2mtrs of wiring
13Amp Plug Top with 1.5mtrs of 3coilx70 power cord
SPECIAL PRICE AT ONLY $70.00 PER SET
NORMAL PRICE = $85.00


DIY KIT 2
Dual x 39W Kit
1no of Dual x 39W E-ballast (Elbiru)
4nos of BJB Waterproof End-caps
2nos of 3Ft T5 parabolic spider reflectors (complete with plastic holder)
2mtrs of wiring
13Amp Plug Top with 1.5mtrs of 3coilx70 power cord
SPECIAL PRICE AT ONLY $75.00 PER SET
NORMAL PRICE = $90.00



DIY KIT 3
Dual x 54W Kit
1no of Dual x 54W E-ballast (Elbiru)
4nos of BJB Waterproof End-caps
2nos of 4Ft T5 parabolic spider reflectors (complete with plastic holder)
2mtrs of wiring
13Amp Plug Top with 1.5mtrs of 3coilx70 power cord
SPECIAL PRICE AT ONLY $85.00 PER SET
NORMAL PRICE = $100.00


OPTIONAL
Option 1
Change to Vossloh or Tridonic Atco brand of E-ballast - Add $20.00
Option 2
Change to Non-waterproof endcaps - Less $23.00
 
reverof

reverof

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Quick update... no big notice of growth on the direct line of plants. Also the plants to the right of the light have straightened back up, no longer pointing towards the actinic bulb. Everyone seems very happy just nothing major to report.
 
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