"Area 51 LED" Information and discussion

Positivity

Positivity

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Then it would be a minimum wage job, the companies would still charge the same, it'd just make them richer. I've had issues with unions over the years but better with them than without.
 
SupraSPL

SupraSPL

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I understand the workers are probably perpetually frustrated. But I think they are barking up the wrong tree. We ought to be looking at the growing tax overhead and unite against that trainwreck.

So if the port companies overcharge and/or underpay, they open a hole in the market that can be filled by their competitor (in an ideal free market anyway) In theory it should all balance out and we get our China toys.

I could be wrong, not educated on the subject, just trying to think of a common sense solution that works on its own.
 
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Heavy Consumer

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Positivity said:
Then it would be a minimum wage job, the companies would still charge the same, it'd just make them richer. I've had issues with unions over the years but better with them than without.
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I agree with this, but have always felt that going on strike is akin to any other form of unjustifiable absenteeism. It should be punishable as a form of gross incompetence and its instigation should be punished with fines. Where I've been living in recent years, all the banks go on strike every year and cause havoc for their private and commercial clients. The various police forces go on strike here regularly too. Recently here doctors were on strike and the week prior it was teachers. Then there's logistics and other sectors. Back home in London, transport workers are at it and often for absurd motives (once upon a time, they shut down London Underground for the day because workers wanted George Foreman grills in all the stations!!!). These fuckers think it's ok to use public inconvenience to negotiate terms with their employers. The fact is, if any of us refused to work until our salary were increased, we'd be fired, end of story. Unions and companies involved need to be held accountable with huge fines (as well as private law-suits), while employees engaging in this action need to be fired for gross incompetence/negligence IMHO.
 
SupraSPL

SupraSPL

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az2000 said:
The problem is that ports are natural resources which have been turned into unionized monopolies. You can't open a competing port, recreating a billion years of geologic activity.
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I dont know a thing about shipping and harbors, but I imagine we could fit competing companies in one port? Aside from that, Im sure I would be amazed at what we could build with 2 billion dollars a day.

I agree about unions, government unions don't have a business to "kill" if they push too hard, so there are no checks and balances.
 
Jeeyah

Jeeyah

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JimmyIndica said:
I keep my RW150s between 18-20 inches. cal mag plus+ more of it! could be ph alittle. let it go 5.6 then 6.0 couple times then back5.6.
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Thanks. I think I had them too far for a while, then too close. 30" then 10" now around 20". (I wasn't keeping track.) I usually use 1.5 ml gallon Calimagic with tap or 1 gram of Epsom salt, but it's never really an issue. Do you feed the same with LED?
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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az2000 said:
The union controls all functions of a port. Creating a non-union area of the same port would be like making union membership optional. That might not be a bad idea, in a typical business that would undermine the union's power, a way to break the union (a race to the bottom).

In principle, I agree with you that there should be another option. I'd even go so far as to say unions should be denied by law from uncompetitive markets (ports, schools, police and fire departments, civil service). But, the way unions are still seen as a protection against "for profit" abuses, dividing up a port into union/non-union would look like union busting.

I'd rather call it a national resource, an exclusive franchise granted to a "port authority" to operate for the nation's interests. Prohibit the union, establish pay based upon comparable jobs in private industry. But, we're so far from that. Unions play the "stick it to the man" rhetoric (when "the man" has become society generally). Pro-business elements see no need to improve workers' interests. We'll never have a discussion about the principles involved. Just rhetorical slurs about "living wages" and "socialism."

In that context, the only solution would be for private interests to open a competing port. But, there are none. Which takes us to the principles involved (national resources capitalized by workers who've found a protected place to live out their 1900's views.). Which quickly turns into the two extremes drowning themselves out, and nothing constructive ever changing.

In 20-40 years this won't be a problem. Robots will do all the work for us while we live lives of relaxation. "Labor" will be looked upon as some primative way of life nobody will be able to comprehend (in the same way we recall the days of 7-day work weeks and child labor.).

And then the AIs will develop "super intelligence" and takeover, treating us as some kind of barbaric lifeform. (Watch the documentary, "The Transcendent Man: Prepare to Evolve." There is a growing movement among very smart people who belief this will happen. The only thing they disagree on is whether the takeover will be a good thing or not. Just a matter of evolution, or an existential threat. It's a mind bender, either way.).
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Earlier I told myself, in my mind, to "stay out of this conversation" after reading your posts and realizing I have little to no understanding of the topic at hand (unions). But then I started thinking about all these books I've read over the past years, ranging from Machiavelli's and Plato's "Republic" to Marx's "Communist Manifesto". Although I have a hard time remembering everything these great writers/philosophers mentioned in their books, the underlying message throughout reading their treatises was that there was an ideal society to be reached based on their surrounding observations, that the world around them couldn't possibly be the best of the best.

I don't think we've quite yet reached that 'ideal' world but maybe we're nearing towards it or maybe it's something intangible; something simply inscribed in each of our thoughts and opinions that allows us to, throughout time, journey through the limitless possibilities to which our civilization is bound to.

The part of your paragraph about robots taking over duties was what encouraged me to jump into this discussion. Essentially, we are robots but with feelings. Simply, robots already do a lot of work for us already, which I'm sure you're well aware of. But I don't agree with you on your statement that in 20-40 years, robots will do all of the labor. Now you could have been more specific about how you vision the future to unfold, in terms of the working force, but you left it as is. Imagining your train of logic, you'd say that most of the work that we see today will be assigned to robots but that a small portion, maybe the creators of the robots who also serve as maintenance workers, will surely keep the robots operating. Ok, maybe so. But do we forget the billions of people living in the world today? Surely there will be more living tomorrow than today, especially if robots do all our choirs because that will give us more time to have intercourse with the opposite sex and thus reproduce, yes? It's a possibility, I suppose (lol).

I don't think I can go any further with my views on robots and the future until you've explained yourself a little more in respect to your comment on the subject.
 
JimmyIndica

JimmyIndica

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This is my 1st run with coco/perlite. I feed 2 times a day at 1/2 streghth botanicare expert coco schedule. I didi spray a couple times with liquid karma, vitamin and cal mag plus rite before light out.I have a couple that want more but there good.Get plenty of runoff and u wont have to flush till last 7-10 days . just make sure u run ph from 5.6-6.0 and u good. Gotta make sure plant can uptake. I have learned early that u need more nitro in veg, but its probably that I run 5.6-5.8 most the time. Coco is fun and challenging at the same time -growth rate is amazing. My schedule calls for 5 mg cal mag each feeding. I only run 2 ml 2 times day.
 
lmoore2680

lmoore2680

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Quick ? Well a statement
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DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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I imagine this has been covered somewhere in this 12 page thread but maybe someone can just tell me. What's up with a51 having nothing in stock? I went to their page last night and all they had was a 100w white. Is it limited release each year? Or am I just looking in the wrong spot
 
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greatbranch

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DutchHaze said:
I imagine this has been covered somewhere in this 12 page thread but maybe someone can just tell me. What's up with a51 having nothing in stock? I went to their page last night and all they had was a 100w white. Is it limited release each year? Or am I just looking in the wrong spot
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Busy. There have actually been stock changes. I was waiting on a W100 for a while, and all they had at that particular time were the RWs. Now it's the opposite. It's been changing, but what they have doesn't stay put long.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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DutchHaze said:
I imagine this has been covered somewhere in this 12 page thread but maybe someone can just tell me. What's up with a51 having nothing in stock? I went to their page last night and all they had was a 100w white. Is it limited release each year? Or am I just looking in the wrong spot
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Their busy starting a pet store.......puppies and such.

Still haven't gotten an answer about the Osram 660 nm drop from the "new" panels.......whatever:confused:
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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AquariusPanta said:
Haha PSUAGRO (Penn State University or?), their secretly celebrating the Chinese New Year ;-).
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Correct on the psu.......probably also correct about the Chinese holiday, what's the excuse for the rest of the year though?.....lol

Probably should stop making fun or EH will send out his "hounds" for me
 
Jeeyah

Jeeyah

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Took me about 6 weeks to get the hang of these lights. I have to keep them 20-24" away. If I would have just followed the directions and used a tape measure from the beginning I would have been just fine. Now they're cranking. I get so excited over this shit. Area 51 LED lights and Ace genetics. Hell yeah.
 
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blues147

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Received a couple of RW75's last week, was very surprised with the quick delivery to canada, I've always been happy with Jeff's customer service. I've never used a51's lights on my young seedlings but will test them in that situation shortly, because of my restricted height setup late flowering puts Jeff's lights as close as six inches to my plants and I've never had any problems with my plants. Look forward to checking out your new lights in late spring. Thanks for all the assistance on my last order Jeff.

I should mention these were not in stock when I first ordered them but became available within a two week period.
 
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borbor

borbor

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I pre-ordered two rw-75's a couple days ago, the website said "estimated wait time: 3/16/2015"
just looked at their website again, now it says "estimated wait time: 3/20/2015"

since I ordered before the date got pushed back, do you guys think that goes for me as well?

edit: I emailed them about it right before I posted this, and they just responded, must have been about a 10 minute response time!
"It has a pretty good chance of shipping on the 16th still, but since we're
not 100% we pushed the date back a few days, snow issues are holding us
back."
 
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