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Luther
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Obviously you guys have different perspectives on the MMJ issues. I have always kind of laughed at some of the card holders beliefs as to what is going on and what is expected. Is there any gullible card holder out there that actually believes that everything is above board in this process? Card holders know that once they assign their grower that the ball game begins. So the expectation is ...oh, maybe an ounce a month to the patient for his medicine. The rest of the cheech and chong salad crap stays with the grower. And the kicker is this...the expectation. So what happens to the rest of the ganja? Do you really think the grower just ingests the other 15 ounces or so that you might* obtain in a legal 6 plant grow? So what happens when the grower has the lawful 4 patients, and now has a combined possible yield of maybe 40 zip bags? (this is on the low end).
Growing dude could possibly have over 2 pounds of ganja in a 4 month period. Let's say he has a totally shitty grow and has a pound left over.
It's getting sold ain't it?
Oh sure, some of it gratuitously gets donated to a couple of favorite organizations, for lack of a better word. I guarantee you that NO grower is walking into a helping agency with those extra 2 pounds.
"Hi, here is my extra 2 pounds of high grade medical marijuana. Hope your patients enjoy it. Ta Ta." ---------As George Bush 1 used to say, "Ain't gonna happen, ain't gonna happen."
Four card holders smoke my ganja...on a 6 plant legal grow. Basically our stash of smoke is literally and figuratively ingested away...gone. I have a few jars stashed away. Damn, I'd hate to be without ganja should the world turn to chaos, worse than what it is now.
The state knows. So do the po po, the feds, and well, President Obama. I just saw that they raised the rates to have a MMJ card in Oregon to 200 bones a year. That sucks, but I'll pay it gladly to stay legal until the whole shebang becomes legal (probably after I've gone dust-to-dust.)
What a game we play, yes?
Growing dude could possibly have over 2 pounds of ganja in a 4 month period. Let's say he has a totally shitty grow and has a pound left over.
It's getting sold ain't it?
Oh sure, some of it gratuitously gets donated to a couple of favorite organizations, for lack of a better word. I guarantee you that NO grower is walking into a helping agency with those extra 2 pounds.
"Hi, here is my extra 2 pounds of high grade medical marijuana. Hope your patients enjoy it. Ta Ta." ---------As George Bush 1 used to say, "Ain't gonna happen, ain't gonna happen."
Four card holders smoke my ganja...on a 6 plant legal grow. Basically our stash of smoke is literally and figuratively ingested away...gone. I have a few jars stashed away. Damn, I'd hate to be without ganja should the world turn to chaos, worse than what it is now.
The state knows. So do the po po, the feds, and well, President Obama. I just saw that they raised the rates to have a MMJ card in Oregon to 200 bones a year. That sucks, but I'll pay it gladly to stay legal until the whole shebang becomes legal (probably after I've gone dust-to-dust.)
What a game we play, yes?
mygirls
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fact its against the law to sell marijuana..
hazorazo
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Buying weed means you participated in an illegal act. Just sayin.
hazorazo
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Dude, I tried to keep the peace, and you keep digging a hole for yourself. Stop insulting everyone. I agree that dispensaries should be legal, but they are not right now. The other people in this room obviously believe that getting things LEGAL is most important, AND THEN HAVING OUR DISPENSARIES. I cannot say I am happy about them getting a letter to stop, but at least they got a letter to warn them?
Now, if you have anything else to say on the subject, go right ahead, but you literally keep repeating yourself over and over, adding nothing new to the conversation. So, please, before you get the nice people in this room pissed off, just agree to disagree. We all know you think these folks are dicks for cheering the demise of dispensaries.....end of story.
Now, for everyone out there, what are your ideas of how a dispensary SHOULD work, once they are legal? Let's hear the MMJ community moving forward, not getting stuck on Wayno playing echo. If I see any more worthless posts from him, I will just put him on the ignore list, like the rest of you should.
LostReefSponger
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No I'm pretty sure it is because of a vote back in '98 that legalized MMJ, were you old enough to remember this? Just as we stated MANY times in this thread, dispensaries had the opportunity to be legal this last fall, but unfortunately they didn't get legalized, once again, did YOU vote and try helping them get legalized? I know I sure did. None of us are "quitting" on this at all. In fact by all of these house bills that have been defeated, dispensaries getting on the ballot even, and OCTA heading in the right direction towards getting on the ballot in 2012 is the exact OPPOSITE of what you think is going on. Again, if you actually informed yourself on the MMJ situation here in Oregon, actually READ the news of MMJ and kept yourself up to date with what is going on you would see that nobody has "quit" but rather making leaps and bounds towards legalization and "pressuring" our government to do this.
Democracy, know what that means? It means that we can do all this work to get dispensaries on the ballot, we can do all this work to get OCTA on the ballot and do all this "pressure" towards our government to legalize but in the end it comes down to voting...once again, Democracy. We can put all the pressure in the world on our government to legalize and it's actually worked to get this stuff on ballots, but it doesn't mean anything if we don't get people to vote for it. Do you understand or is all of this voting and Democracy talk just too big of a concept for you to understand?
You must be a cop!
This wayno just doesn't understand how conversations work. Here's a hint wayno, when you repeat yourself with nothing but foolish comments that don't contribute anything but entertainment or a feeling of pity for you and your lack of reading comprehension all you do is make yourself look foolish. You seem to be literally the only one that doesn't understand what ANY of us are trying to say to you here, all you think is if we support dispensaries being told to shut down until it's legal then we MUST be cops. Maybe once you grow up and move out of your parents you'll find that this is more than just dispensaries shutting down, it's about protecting OMMP patients and moving legalization forward.
Then again, I am just a cop, right wayno?
There is a huge difference between illegal and immoral. At one point in time it was illegal for blacks to vote. but as we can see that has changed due to some persistent folks trying to continuously break the law. You should stand up for what you believe in. Now do you believe in the law or marijuana more? Im not saying go around selling a bunch of weed but to be on here celebrating the fact that people were jailed for selling marijuana is quite funny to me. If it wasn't for folks breaking these laws on marijuana we wouldnt be where we are today. Like stated before... Im almost certain that everyone in here at one point in time broke a law concerning MJ. Why cheer for the opposing end. They might not be selling this herb for what you're willing to pay for it but happy to see them gone? No 1 forced any of you into buying product from these people so why be so angry with them for trying to make money? If people are WILLING to pay the price as opposed to being FORCED to pay the price, then I see nothing wrong.
PS. Its funny to me how the same ppl who were doing so many illegal dealings of weed 5-10 years ago get a medical card now and believe themselves to be of a higher caliber than those doing things not 100% within the laws. We're all smokers and in the end im sure we all want it to be legalized. Then why are WE fighting and arguing with each other?
Its against the law in Vegas to scare away birds and deface hamburgers. Do you cheer when people go to jail for it?
I am a current card holder. in 3 states to be exact
PS I am an idiot for what reason? Because YOU want people involved in marijuana(as a business) jailed? Yes of course, makes plenty of sense. And Im the idiot lol
Californians were selling marijuana for quite a while illegally once they adopted their marijuana programs and do you know whats to come of it? Every doctor in the state writing more medical recommendations and the ability to legally sell and tax the plant. I base all of the information I've stated off of FACTS! Yours comes from the opinion of one who seems to run his mouth to the police. Maybe you were the reason the Asian just got busted with all of those plants. Wow! This is a very supportive community I see(note the sarcasm)
I completely understand the point that you are TRYING to make. But, I also see that YOU dont understand how these laws of medical marijuana came to be. It came from others BREAKING THE LAW. If everyone were for the jailing of those going against our state and countries rules on marijuana, do you honestly believe it would even be legal for medicinal purposes now? Things only change when theres a reason for it. If everyone was content with what the government decided than many of the great things this country actually does or has wouldn't be of existence.
and for those of you wondering. I dont own a dispensary, sell weed, or even grow at the moment. But thats not a reason for me to cheer on the police locking up some harmless growers/dispensary owners. I think its really selfish for someone to WANT someone else to be jailed based on difference in opinion/ways
LostReefSponger
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None of us said we WANT them to be jailed, we are happy that the warnings have gone out because many of the dispensaries here in Oregon are just drug dealers looking to make a profit while hiding behind some grey areas of our laws. The people that run these dispensaries aren't trying to help out patients, they are simply trying to jump on board of this cash train before anyone else does, even if it means breaking the law. MMJ has been getting plenty of ridicule for these and it has started to put a sour taste in the mouths of those here in Oregon that aren't for MMJ and want to see this stuff go away completely...not exactly a good thing, right?
I want dispensaries here in Oregon, it's just another step forward towards legalization, but when these dispensaries blatantly disobey the already controversial MMJ laws it also makes all the other MMJ patients look like law-ignoring criminals. We obviously know that the dispensaries selling is harmless, but when it comes around to voting for them again, or voting for OCTA in 2012, how many of the voters are going to vote AGAINST them simply because of the bad publicity these illegal dispensaries have got for MMJ? We have also said that if the dispensaries weren't so focused on the profits and gave back to the community more it obviously wouldn't be as big of a deal, but several (not all) aren't doing this and aren't trying to get into a better light with the public.
Of course breaking the law and showing that MMJ and dispensaries can't be stopped could EVENTUALLY lead to them being legalized but it doesn't exactly speed up the process. Put yourself in the shoes of those that know nothing about MMJ but still vote on the issue, are you going to vote to help out the "criminals" make what they are doing legal, or are you going to vote to help out the patients that have shown they can abide by the law and not cause trouble, in the end causing no harm to others?
But I'm just a cop, right wayno?
I want dispensaries here in Oregon, it's just another step forward towards legalization, but when these dispensaries blatantly disobey the already controversial MMJ laws it also makes all the other MMJ patients look like law-ignoring criminals. We obviously know that the dispensaries selling is harmless, but when it comes around to voting for them again, or voting for OCTA in 2012, how many of the voters are going to vote AGAINST them simply because of the bad publicity these illegal dispensaries have got for MMJ? We have also said that if the dispensaries weren't so focused on the profits and gave back to the community more it obviously wouldn't be as big of a deal, but several (not all) aren't doing this and aren't trying to get into a better light with the public.
Of course breaking the law and showing that MMJ and dispensaries can't be stopped could EVENTUALLY lead to them being legalized but it doesn't exactly speed up the process. Put yourself in the shoes of those that know nothing about MMJ but still vote on the issue, are you going to vote to help out the "criminals" make what they are doing legal, or are you going to vote to help out the patients that have shown they can abide by the law and not cause trouble, in the end causing no harm to others?
But I'm just a cop, right wayno?
I understand your logic. But then again I think, if people weren't paying these dispensary prices they wouldn't be selling the Meds for so much. Not so much compassion in a world that you not only have to buy water but even air comes in a can for a price. Anyone been to Cali dispensaries? They have much more Meds in the state of cali than they do in Oregon but the dispensary prices in Cali are even higher! Ppl there will go to a dispensary and let the good strain sit on the shelf for a month based on the prices being too LOW! ridiculous I know but it's the way MOST if not ALL markets work. Supply and demand. These dispensaries are paying a lot for furniture, rent, electricity, and risking a lot to be open. In my eyes, they should be able to charge whatever they want as long as they aren't FORCING ppl to buy their product. And I have yet to see someone buying against their will.
mygirls
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what did you say..
Nothing at all. I was typing on an iPad, but if you cant read that then maybe you need to brush up a little more. You can ignore my posts from now on as they have no significance to you
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