can you tell the difference between MH buds and HPs Buds?

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
if you did one mh and one hps you wouldn't lose anything, only gain potency, the mixture is the best lighting setup to use, any pro out there will say to mix the two is the best option
i did my2nd grow, one 1000wtt hps and a 400wtt mh. this grow only the 1000wtt hps and i see a bigger yield this time.:weed: mixing the two ya but running only mh to flower i would'nt.i did my first grow and had fluffy buds
 

easygrinder

New Member
i never said hps is shit, so all you hps lovers out there don't be getting offended, all i said is, it is not outright better for flowering,

in some aspects mh is better, which is why mixing the two is the best option

i'm not out just to cause an argument the guys asking if we can tell the diff, and i'm giving him my experienced answer of the difference and you got a bunch of guys you have never even tried to use mh for flowering they just use hps because everyone else told them its the best, and if you tell someone else that, then they will believe it pass it on to someone else and the story continues, once enough people say something it is seen as fact when it not always is.

if you go back to the start of the thread he asked for peoples opinions that have tried both and i have and i 100% believe that everything i have said on this thread is true
 

easygrinder

New Member
i did my2nd grow, one 1000wtt hps and a 400wtt mh. this grow only the 1000wtt hps and i see a bigger yield this time.:weed: mixing the two ya but running only mh to flower i would'nt.i did my first grow and had fluffy buds

it was also your first grow, so how can you compare the two you know so much more now than when you grew the first ones, its not a true comparison
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
i never said hps is shit, so all you hps lovers out there don't be getting offended, all i said is, it is not outright better for flowering,

in some aspects mh is better, which is why mixing the two is the best option

i'm not out just to cause an argument the guys asking if we can tell the diff, and i'm giving him my experienced answer of the difference and you got a bunch of guys you have never even tried to use mh for flowering they just use hps because everyone else told them its the best, and if you tell someone else that, then they will believe it pass it on to someone else and the story continues, once enough people say something it is seen as fact when it not always is.

if you go back to the start of the thread he asked for peoples opinions that have tried both and i have and i 100% believe that everything i have said on this thread is true
dude you lik talking to hear your self talk don't you.
 

easygrinder

New Member
no i got the day off work, everyone is out, i'm home all alone i played burnout a bit this morning, but i gotta say i'm a bit bored
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
im sorry..i still fail to see how mh is better for flowering than hps. I mean if this were true you would have 2 mh insted of 1 and 1 correct. if it is trully better then why go half assed on your investment? just doesnt make sense.
 

easygrinder

New Member
im sorry..i still fail to see how mh is better for flowering than hps. I mean if this were true you would have 2 mh insted of 1 and 1 correct. if it is trully better then why go half assed on your investment? just doesnt make sense.
someone else who has difficulty reading i see,

i never said that mh is outright better for flowering, all i said is that they both have really good qualities for bloom, i don't think hps outguns mh and i don't think that mh outguns hps, i think that mixing them both together gets the best results,

i mix them to get bonus potency from the mh and i use the hps for yield
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
no its not

it depends on your goal, if your goal is to produce the most amount of bud possible then hps is for you,

but if your aiming for the highest grade and yield isn't your main concern then mh is better.

mh is closer to the suns light therfore it reacts with the plants defense mechanism and thc production is higher.

this is why outdoor is better than indoor, because the sun makes the weed more stoney

you can do this :wall::wall: all you want, but saying hps is better for flowering is not completely true, it depends on your goals
you just lost all credibility with this statement...:clap:
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
someone else who has difficulty reading i see,

i never said that mh is outright better for flowering, all i said is that they both have really good qualities for bloom, i don't think hps outguns mh and i don't think that mh outguns hps, i think that mixing them both together gets the best results,

i mix them to get bonus potency from the mh and i use the hps for yield
no.no..my reading comprehension is up to par. you just like to contradict your self.:-P
 

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
im sorry..i still fail to see how mh is better for flowering than hps. I mean if this were true you would have 2 mh insted of 1 and 1 correct. if it is trully better then why go half assed on your investment? just doesnt make sense.
The two together is definitely the best combination because each has a tradeoff. Together you lose some of that tradeoff. That's the easiest way to explain it WITHOUT getting into CRI and light spectrum. With both lights you are getting light in a broader spectrum and the plant reacts very well to this. You have done a better job of recreating "natural" light.

Seperately the MH doesn't flower as well. They may be more potent, but the buds are much smaller. I've seen it done numerous times and it works, I don't see many people who PREFER to flower with just an MH, but adding MH is better than adding HPS. As long as the lights are going to overlap of course. Mine overlap, but not enough that I wanted 1/2 my crop predominantly under MH. If I'd had 2 600w's or 2 1000w's instead of 2 400w's I probably would go one of each.

Especially the 1000w's because the lights are usually up higher where they can do a better job of acting as 1 light source.

Now the question for easygringer, that I'm sure I can google, but he already has (and yes I'm that lazy, it's a marijuana forum, of COURSE I'm that lazy).......Have you ever found or made a dual lamp reflector that could efficiently reflect the light so that the concentrations of light would mix well?
 

easygrinder

New Member
you just lost all credibility with this statement...:clap:
can you not read

it depends on your goal, if your goal is to produce the most amount of bud possible then hps is for you,

but if your aiming for the highest grade and yield isn't your main concern then mh is better.

isn't that saying they both have good qualities, they are both good but at different aspects

which is why i like to use them both together



you need help with any of those words some of them are quite large
 

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
I think his issue was with your claiming your belief in light spectrum is the reason that outdoor bud is better than indoor. That IS a pretty lameass statement.

It could potentially have to do with the fact that the sun produces ridiculous amounts of light. Something like 130watts /sq ft at 93 million miles.

1 watt LS = 18lumens so something in the neigbhorhood of 6840000000000000000000000000 lumens.

Might have something to do with it more than light spectrum.
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
The two together is definitely the best combination because each has a tradeoff. Together you lose some of that tradeoff. That's the easiest way to explain it WITHOUT getting into CRI and light spectrum. With both lights you are getting light in a broader spectrum and the plant reacts very well to this. You have done a better job of recreating "natural" light.

Seperately the MH doesn't flower as well. They may be more potent, but the buds are much smaller. I've seen it done numerous times and it works, I don't see many people who PREFER to flower with just an MH, but adding MH is better than adding HPS. As long as the lights are going to overlap of course. Mine overlap, but not enough that I wanted 1/2 my crop predominantly under MH. If I'd had 2 600w's or 2 1000w's instead of 2 400w's I probably would go one of each.

Especially the 1000w's because the lights are usually up higher where they can do a better job of acting as 1 light source.

Now the question for easygringer, that I'm sure I can google, but he already has (and yes I'm that lazy, it's a marijuana forum, of COURSE I'm that lazy).......Have you ever found or made a dual lamp reflector that could efficiently reflect the light so that the concentrations of light would mix well?
good explanation.....+rep....now one outskirts of your grow space, one side will have total mh coverage and the otherside has total hps coverage. Is there a difference between the two
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
can you not read

it depends on your goal, if your goal is to produce the most amount of bud possible then hps is for you,

but if your aiming for the highest grade and yield isn't your main concern then mh is better.

isn't that saying they both have good qualities, they are both good but at different aspects

which is why i like to use them both together



you need help with any of those words some of them are quite large
do you need help washing your boyfriends seed out of your eyes so you can go back and re read your back and forth posts?
 

easygrinder

New Member
I think his issue was with your claiming your belief in light spectrum is the reason that outdoor bud is better than indoor. That IS a pretty lameass statement.

It could potentially have to do with the fact that the sun produces ridiculous amounts of light. Something like 130watts /sq ft at 93 million miles.

1 watt LS = 18lumens so something in the neigbhorhood of 6840000000000000000000000000 lumens.

Might have something to do with it more than light spectrum.
so if its more to do with intensity then spectrum, then there should be no difference between hps and mh,

of course spectrum makes a difference, you obviously don't read much outside the basics of growing marijuana, check on this thread the 100s and 100s of threads on uvb and how it increases potency,
that is what makes outdoor buds stronger the uvb.

its ok though, its clear to see that your all stuck in your hps ways but thats cool its up to you guys.
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
he don't no what the hell he has said, he just likes talking,and if we keep this up he will to. im gone and out. good luck and peace.
how are you today nick:weed:
good mygirls...just procrastinating all the shit ive got to do today...hows your world?
 

nickfury510

Well-Known Member
is that really the best you can do some lame ass gay shit, fuck it really is like being back at school,

fucking children
aww whats the matter? the smart ass doesnt like it when people throw insults back. maybe you shouldnt start talking down on people when its clear you have an Inferiority complex.:-o
 
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