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Yodaweed

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No, but I could, I have access to the cuts, just have not had the desire to grow em?

I have several Headbands (NYCD X OG) goin and Dr.D81's Bear Creek Kush as well as a land race Dalat and several of my strains
I grew headband a few years ago and it was a gas smelling strain, made a bunch of seeds from it but it sounds like somethings is wrong , when flowering cannabis emits an odor, you might got some weak genetics that's why people use carbon filters.
 

RM3

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I grew headband a few years ago and it was a gas smelling strain, made a bunch of seeds from it but it sounds like somethings is wrong , when flowering cannabis emits an odor, you might got some weak genetics that's why people use carbon filters.
Funny they are "the" cut that every one tries to get a copy/clone of
 

Dr. Who

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Dr Who. Have you seen real results tweaking these values in a soil grow? (I have used potters gold as well as other mixes). Seems real specific for a buffered grow like amended soil. How do you know what the citations are even holding on to in there?

I have been having better results with a regular medium dose of a complete grow nute after the soil is depleted. Then about halved to the end finishing with just well water the last 2 times or so for a mild fade. Trying ocean forest and the fox farm liquid trio for convenience as it is sold in my little out of the way town. I have to mix the retarted grow and bloom for balance even at week 7 usually. Or typical bloom nute leaf drop and chlorosis will result.

Combined the NPK is about 232. Not recommended but works fine if fed properly.

I am considering dyna grow as my only fertilizer to add. I need a bit of mag and calcium as my well water is a nice .3 EC. Great for no calcium buildup at my faucets but not quite enough for minerals for all hybrids.

I have been lurking quite some time around here. You have very strong knowledge and experience I respect immensely. Thanks in advance for your answers.

Nice question!
I tweeked NPK values in soil to levels that I found the MOST effective FOR my daily feeding style! I have always liked a daily feeding or watering style due to the fact you get more O2 to the roots - That's a GOOD thing for your bio's!

The NPK value's listed above are my baseline value's that will cover many indica to some high sativa % crossings - strain wise. Some tweeking can improve results a bit. I found this gave me better success at reaching potentials then supplying basic ratio's..It was tedious to move all that around to discover those rates.

I went back to building water only soils and do a 2 step soil up-potting method of organic's.....I do NOT feel I wasted any time in my exploration of synthetic's!
When I restart this fall, I will be again doing some DWC with hand built/mixed or however you want to put it, nutrients......I just can't stay away from playing/experimenting forever!
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Tis the only thing in my books I have not openly shared and is very different from what is taught every where, I take enough crap as it is

and not tryin to sell my opinion
You won't say but I can read it if I buy your book?

No you are not selling your opinion. You are selling a book of your opinions.

When I visit my friend at Copper Mountain maybe you will share some of my stash with me?

But from your posts it seems you have low tolerance and a bad sense of smell.

You talk in circles that lead only to what you are selling on your website. I checked it out. It let me read a commonly known set of facts about sativas. I see them all the time in my garden.

Other than that I have to pay to read your opinions.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Nice question!
I tweeked NPK values in soil to levels that I found the MOST effective FOR my daily feeding style! I have always liked a daily feeding or watering style due to the fact you get more O2 to the roots - That's a GOOD thing for your bio's!

The NPK value's listed above are my baseline value's that will cover many indica to some high sativa % crossings - strain wise. Some tweeking can improve results a bit. I found this gave me better success at reaching potentials then supplying basic ratio's..It was tedious to move all that around to discover those rates.

I went back to building water only soils and do a 2 step soil up-potting method of organic's.....I do NOT feel I wasted any time in my exploration of synthetic's!
When I restart this fall, I will be again doing some DWC with hand built/mixed or however you want to put it, nutrients......I just can't stay away from playing/experimenting forever!

That was a nice answer. thank you. I will look over your numbers again.
 

RM3

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You won't say but I can read it if I buy your book?

No you are not selling your opinion. You are selling a book of your opinions.

When I visit my friend at Copper Mountain maybe you will share some of my stash with me?

But from your posts it seems you have low tolerance and a bad sense of smell.

You talk in circles that lead only to what you are selling on your website. I checked it out. It let me read a commonly known set of facts about sativas. I see them all the time in my garden.

Other than that I have to pay to read your opinions.
Well I think it's how the whole book thing is supposed to work?

and there was over 2000 hours of research with 6 years of experiments that went into it, though I suppose it's still my opinions?

would love to share a smoke if your in town

Have ya read the smoke reports on page 2 of my are they done sig link?
 

MisterBlah

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and there was over 2000 hours of research with 6 years of experiments that went into it, though I suppose it's still my opinions?
Have you published any of it? Do you have graphs detailing yield or THC% or CBD% differences under different conditions? Do you detail those conditions? Whether it's light intensity changes, spectrum changes, fertilizer changes, environment changes, or anything else.

I've seen your pictures and they look fantastic. But do you have any data?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Exactly. He only has opinion. Ed Rosenthal and the like have had the data proving he is wrong for years. And they are still doing actual tests. Not just getting their info from conjecture.
 

Morbid Angel

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MichiganMedGrower

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Sorry I obviously didn't mean to use that compound.

I meant how to formulate the proper ammonium to nitrate balance.

I find I need some slower and more acidic forms of nitrogen to balance out the soil and nutes and well water. Like soil nutes include. Do I have to use Urea?

Doesn't calcium nitrate add to alkalinity?
 

ttystikk

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this shit is getting way off track.



This compound is very soluble in water; and if the water which ammonium nitrate was dissolved at is heated, the by- product will be nitrous oxide which is commonly referred to as laughing gas.

interesting..

Also seems like not the best thing to be using considering it is tracked by the government and has the potential of being highly explosive.
You don't want ammonia in hydroponics. It can't break down into nitrate without organic processes, best to use nitrate. I use calcium nitrate, as it's about the only way to make calcium water soluble.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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That is not true for even hybrid soil grows. I don't feed in veg. There is plenty of breakdown going on or they would not get through stretch without help. The soil is still feeding when I start my nutes.

But alkalinity is the key to soil growing. With my well water I need ammonium more than nitrate or my soil will end up alkyline. Nutes are supposed to balance out your water.

To use a brand name example. As I have been using up all the different bottles I bought as a newbie. Botanicare kind is 3 part with the base being calcium nitrate only. The rest is in the grow or bloom. Good stuff except it works better with my old house really soft water which didn't have much calcium in it. The nitrate balanced it out.

Pure blend pro and fox farm trio expect tap water use and are formulated to be a bit acidic.

That is why there are so many formulations of fertilizer. The fert company tests your water and or soil and recommends the proper ratio. It really means how neutral acidic or alkaline the mix is and how it will affect your medium over time.

It is not just the numbers in the plant tissue everyone is talking about that makes 312 the preferred foliage plant ratio of NPK. It may not be right for you. It needs to be formulated with the right elements for your specific garden.

Someone please correct me if I understand this wrong.
 

RM3

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Have you published any of it? Do you have graphs detailing yield or THC% or CBD% differences under different conditions? Do you detail those conditions? Whether it's light intensity changes, spectrum changes, fertilizer changes, environment changes, or anything else.

I've seen your pictures and they look fantastic. But do you have any data?
Exactly. He only has opinion. Ed Rosenthal and the like have had the data proving he is wrong for years. And they are still doing actual tests. Not just getting their info from conjecture.
I'm just gonna say no here even though it's not the complete answer but truth is I'm tired of this nonsense, folks hatin folks because they are different or do things differently seems to be the new Merican way in all things, such a waste of time. We should ALL be workin together to improve the herb, a tip here, a technique there. Instead there is this constant arguing and debate and myth ridden bro science that simply won't die
 
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