Sir Napsalot
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Are you being sarcastic?
Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics
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brogro
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Crazy Chester the followed me and he caught me in the bar ...
I haven't had to spray buds. I get out there and spray it as soon as I see eighth to quarter inch long little inchworms. This is just as the pistals (white hairs) are coming up to start a bud. I'm never actually spraying the bud. Can you smoke it without harm to you, I do not know. I do know I keep it in the basement and not in the hot garage because heat will kill those bacterias. How safe is it? You're probably eating it right now it's GMOd into the food you eat. You might be eating more of it than you are Roundup. That's why it's nice to grow your own stuff!
BrassNwood
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Southern California and the moths are thick, and the caterpillars will infest your buds in the thousands. BT Thuricide is destroyed by sunlight in a few hours, so we have to keep spraying weekly to remain protected. I spray weekly from Aug 1st right up to the week of harvest in Oct.
Sir Napsalot
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I haven't seen hardly any moths flying about this year- too hot perhaps
there is a new spray with a virus in it like BT to kill budworms. IT was developed to protect cotton and tobacco plants. I also purchased some pheromone traps but this year no moths caught yet. This new product is sold under the name of GemStar LC. Not easy to find totally organic like BT. I am combining both this year since some are reporting some caterpillar's are not killed by BT anymore. My biggest addition to my outdoor garden is a 1 acre dynatrap. So far I have not seem any evidence of budworm but still have a month to go. There are a lot of moths in the dynatrap and no moths in my pheromone trap for the budworm. I will be a real believer in the dynatrap if I have a no worms year. Holding my breath
What dynatrap do you have.
Got it on woot for $79 covers one acre so it is the biggest one they sell. So far been spraying both BT and GemStar LC (virus works like bacteria) together. Dynatrap F13874XL insect trap 1 acre with extended light bulb. I don't want to get carried away yet but I inspect everyday and I have no signs of the budworm. Haven't seen any eggs. Haven't caught any in the pheromone trap but my dynatrap has moths and they are ones that look like the tobacco moth. I did put a pheromone trap inside the trap. I can only hope I'm right and maybe might escape the dreaded worm. good luck
BrassNwood
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2012 I harvested and carefully trimmed 5 pounds of primo buds.
That first day just a few caterpillars rappelled down on silk looking for fresher juicy buds. By the next morning there were dozens of all sizes from inch long down to almost too small to be seen hanging down. By day 3 it was a free-for-all with hundreds per hour of them jumping ship faster than I could sweep them away.
When I started to break it down from the branches it was all shot through with mold at every place the caterpillars crapped. I wound up throwing the entire mess out. A total loss.
I wouldn't even try and grow outside without BT Thuricide and a bug zapper. Even when I'm on top of my game I'll find a few spots of sun-dried damage from the ones that got away.
BrassNwood
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Even spraying I'll take a bit of damage. This is a prime example of what happens when the caterpillar cuts the bud free, and the sun dries it.
The Bud will tug out with almost zero effort and if I dig enough, I'll find him not far away.
smoke and coke
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The rain and humidity has been brutal here, so I decided to move my 2 drenched plants to the garage with a dehumidifier. As I moved them i found a bud worm so I started checking the plants over. I found another very small one and 2 others just above their little poop dropping. Budworms just another thing to add to the stress of outdoor growing.
I learned years ago for vegetables that you want to plant extras because the bugs will get their share.
I learned years ago for vegetables that you want to plant extras because the bugs will get their share.
smoke and coke
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I did the umbrella yesterday. Screwed the stand to the deck in case of wind. The plants still got soaked.
smoke and coke
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I kept the dehumidifier down to about 45% most of the day and they dried nicely. There isn’t much cfl lighting but better than nothing. They will probably be in the garage until Thursday then put them in the garage at night to prevent the morning dew.
I didn’t put them out until aug. 1st so they didn’t get huge, but i don’t want to be hauling around huge trees. Well maybe I do.
I didn’t put them out until aug. 1st so they didn’t get huge, but i don’t want to be hauling around huge trees. Well maybe I do.
brogro
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I think your problem is that come along if I were you I'd get it out of the garage. I'll take it off your hands. Also harnesses aren't good for anything bad luck get that out of there too but that I don't want!
obijohn
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I've used spinosad for years. Thrips and whiteflies can't get a foothold and yes, it kills budworms. I spray directly on the buds towards end of the outdoor season. Does not affect taste at all. I do it in the morning so the moisture dries up right away and doesn't cause rot.
Dameon187
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Yes I was thinking I need to check mine we don't get these in Canada. I live in Atlantic Canadain Canada where I am anyway we don't have this problem.u still see the odd Caterpillar around but the moths are done laying eggs by now,lucky i guess.if any one knows about this pls enlighten me!!
whatscooking
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Dare I say that I don't see the rotten little bastards bud worms crawling around. Been two weeks since last BT application. Hope the cycle has stopped.