Dr.Amber Trichome
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Wow. It must be difficult for you. Sorry to hear it. Maybe one day he will snap out of it .
Will You Take The Vaccine?
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Fogdog
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First I've heard that the vaccines "intertwine". Moderna and Pfizer are mRNA and the other vaccines are different technologies. But if you get a shot of the Pfizer, the second ought to be Pfizer and not another. Same with the other two-shot vacs. At least that's how I understand it.Yep, the good thing is the vaccines intertwine with one another ..mostly, because a number of them are simply close 'copies' of the other vaccines
Its good that there is a chance of this (no boosters). I hope it all works out that way
Sofa King Smoooth
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It is harder to visit for sure. Have finally come to an agreement not to speak politics when around family.
I dont think dad realized how much the rhetoric he was parroting has had a negative effect on the relationship between him and the grand kids.
Shit talking an entire group of people because of their political beliefs, race, sexuality, etc. has made it where my adult children do not care to visit their grandparents.
Fogdog
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"vaccinated, whether I've taken the shot or not"?
lulz, For those who won't take the jab, I hope you like the strain that infects you. Hope you don't pass it on to others (of course you will) and hope you don't go to the hospital (that would be justice served but I'm not going to wish long haul Covid or bad illness upon anybody).
printer
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The social distancing is only needed until the vaccine replicates itself in your bloodstream. Once the critical amount of nano particles are formed it attaches to the inside of your spinal column in order to act as a better receiving and transmitting antenna. By using you spinal column the nano-chips will avoid detection as other than a spinal tap nobody messes with the spinal column. MRI's do shut off the chips, they are not built to handle that strong a magnetic field. They have been designed to withstand normal devices like your stereo or washing machine. The military uses a different grade of vaccine as military personnel need to be able to work in high RF areas (think radar) and the chips in their vaccine is more robust. It does take a little longer for them to get over the effects but they have gone through training to make them tougher than civilians.
CunningCanuk
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CunningCanuk
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I read that a combination of Pfizer or Moderna and AZ offered 6 times greater protection. This was from observing a small study group of 600 people so it’s not the most accurate.
Still, it’s promising enough that I would like that blend. I spoke to my pharmacist today and he said to call him at the end of The month and he’ll get me the Pfizer. Sweet!
My 13 year old daughter got her first shot of Pfizer last weekend. Things are looking up.
UncleBuck
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did you come up with that hilarious joke by yourself
DIY-HP-LED
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Canada recommends mixing and matching AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines | CBC News
Canada recommends mixing and matching AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines
NACI guidance based on early research from U.K., Spain that shows mixing shots is safe and effective
Canada is changing its guidelines on mixing and matching second doses of COVID-19 vaccines and is now advising Canadians to combine either the AstraZeneca-Oxford, Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna shots interchangeably in certain situations.
The National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) updated its guidance to provinces and territories Tuesday and recommended that a first shot of the AstraZeneca vaccine can be followed by either Moderna or Pfizer.
For Canadians who have had a first dose of Moderna or Pfizer, NACI recommends they can now take either of the two shots as a second dose — because they both use a similar mRNA technology — if the same first dose is unavailable or unknown.
The updated NACI guidance is based on emerging research from Spain and the United Kingdom that found mixing and matching AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines was both safe and effective at preventing COVID-19.
CBC News first reported the details of the recommendation changes Tuesday morning, based on information from sources with direct knowledge of the decision who spoke on condition of anonymity. The details of the shift in guidance were confirmed publicly by officials from the Public Health Agency of Canada during a news conference Tuesday afternoon.
Canada's Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam said the decision to combine mRNA vaccines interchangeably was "nothing new" and that the same principle had been applied to different types of vaccines in the past — including shots for influenza and Hepatitis A.
"This is not a new concept, so having a multi-dose series in terms of vaccines given by manufacturers is something that public health have used over time for many other vaccines," Tam said. "When vaccines programs and supplies change this is not an unusual thing to do."
The updated NACI recommendations state, "No data currently exist on the interchangeability of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines," but Tam said there are "ongoing studies" on the effectiveness of the approach that have yet to be published. The decision was made based on the similar makeup of the vaccines, which both target the spike protein of the coronavirus, she said.
The recommendations will have a major impact on Canada's vaccine rollout, with previous NACI guidelines stating that a vaccination series that begins with AstraZeneca should follow up with the same type of shot and that mRNA vaccines should only be used interchangeably if the same first dose is unavailable or unknown.
The updated guidelines follow moves by some provinces to combine different shots due to issues with the supply of AstraZeneca and a rare but serious type of blood clot that can result after the shot called vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT), which NACI also cited as a reason for its decision in its guidance.
More than 13 million people have received at least one dose of the Pfizer vaccine in Canada, in contrast to over 3.5 million of the Moderna vaccine and more than 2.1 million of the AstraZeneca vaccine as of May 22, according to the latest available federal government data.
Tam said that NACI deemed the "mounting" data on following AstraZeneca with an mRNA vaccine sufficient to update its guidance, and that Canadians need to look at "all the information in front of them" about the risks of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
"The rate of [VITT] after the second dose seems to be lower than after the first dose, but this could increase over time and I think people need to know that kind of information," she said. "Right now it's 1 in 600,000 people who got that second dose that is having [VITT] — but that could change."
Prof. Alyson Kelvin, an assistant professor at Dalhousie University and virologist at the Canadian Center for Vaccinology and the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization in Saskatoon said the guidelines were "appropriate" given available data.
Kelvin said she believes the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines could be effectively interchanged because of the similarity between the clinical trial data and the real world research on the two mRNA-based vaccines.
"I don't have any concerns with the mixing and matching, knowing the components of the vaccine," she said, adding there were only slight differences in non-serious side effects with Pfizer having slightly higher reports of mild symptoms. "They're fairly on par."
Fogdog
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From that article:
the current guidance is for AstraZeneca recipients to get a second dose of the same product, but NACI is now reviewing the Oxford research on mixing AstraZeneca with an mRNA shot.
"There will be further advice forthcoming on that second dose based on the evolving science. We should watch this space," Tam said.
I'm sorry that this is not an exciting or thrilling thing to be told.
DIY-HP-LED
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We aren't exactly swimming in vaccines up here and many are gonna have a one shot summer with variants on the loose. So far the science says it's safe to do and apparently effective. Giving everybody a single shot and stretching out the supply was a wise decision IMHO, but I'm concerned with the 105 day gap between doses and would like to see it shortened to around 90 days. We do what we must, the new more contagious variants hit us hard and we are still vaccinating 1% of the population a day. We've got about 60% of the total population with one dose and 6.3% with the second shot.
I'm due for my second Pfizer in August, but I'm hoping the date might be moved up a bit.
There is no social construct parallel(like gender) for medicine. On the other hand, if you wanted to convey that you don't know the difference between sex and gender, then you crushed it.
printer
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Why do I have the image of three shooters lined up on a bar?
hanimmal
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UncleBuck
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Great video! As a phony piece of shit, it really speaks to me
DIY-HP-LED
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Still trying to kill people with bullshit. I guess success for you looks like Jonestown after the Koolaid party. Vaccination rates are up in America again, so I guess you're losing in your struggle to kill as many people as you can. America will get over 70% immunized and I believe the number will be over 80% of eligible people by fall. The mRNA vaccines should be out of emergency use statues over the summer and that will convince many holdouts to get vaccinated. It will also will make mandatory vaccinations for many employers and others feasible, though they can and are doing it now.
By fall only the Trumpers and born yesterday pseudo Christians will remain unvaccinated, along with those who believe antivaccer bullshit. Many immunocompromised vulnerable people will remain unprotected as well, though most of those who won't want to be unvaccinated won't wear masks to protect them, or themselves.
PJ Diaz
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We'll see. Now that they've discovered that the spiked protein is mobile, and doesn't stay at the injection site as previously believed, there may be some changes. If you look at the research, it's pretty scary to see how much spiked protein moves from the injection site and accumulates elsewhere, but especially in women's ovaries.
PJ Diaz
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Well lookey here. Over a hundred health care workers also don't want to get force-jabbed, and are suing their employer. I heard that number is about to jump up to close to 50 more who don't want to get jabbed also jumping on the suit. But I guess over a hundred health care workers are wrong, and are making up shit about the reactions they have seen first hand in patients:
A Houston Hospital System Mandated The COVID-19 Vaccine. 117 Staffers Sued
The vaccine mandate, the plaintiffs say, violates medical ethics standards known as the Nuremberg Code.
hanimmal
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Oh wow, you mean everyone is being attacked with the same bullshit propaganda that you have been pushing here?Well lookey here. Over a hundred health care workers also don't want to get force-jabbed, and are suing their employer. I heard that number is about to jump up to close to 50 more who don't want to get jabbed also jumping on the suit. But I guess over a hundred health care workers are wrong, and are making up shit about the reactions they have seen first hand in patients:
A Houston Hospital System Mandated The COVID-19 Vaccine. 117 Staffers Sued
The vaccine mandate, the plaintiffs say, violates medical ethics standards known as the Nuremberg Code.www.wbur.org
Shocker.
I mean who saw that happening after the psycho pharmacist radicalized to think that micro chips were in the vaccines or whatever shit he belived to the point that he was actively destroying entire shipments of the vaccines?