Will panda film melt easily?

Hey everyone, so I'm contemplating building a custom tent to fit in my closet. The dimensions will be 4'1x2'7x1'7 and I will be running a 400w hps with a cool tube in it, a 4in fan pulling into a scrubber, and a small fan inside to keep air moving. I am really concerned with the panda film, I've searched and read a lot about it and it's pretty much 50/50 on whether it will melt or not using my light. Does anyone have any personal experience that they can share to give me some insight on this? Thanks in advance everyone.

I might also add that this is my first indoor experience. I live in the south but am originally from the NW so outdoor grows were easier to do, so any other things I should look out for would be awesome!

No one at all?

Dont use the film close to the light to be able to get hot enough to melt. If its gonna melt your panda film its too close to the light or you just have your stuff waaay too hot. Also, are you sure about those dimensions? Im baffled as to how your gonna stuff all that equipment in there and fit plants in there too?

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Well, with the way I've drawn my plans out, doing 1 plant using scrog I should be alright height wise. I've also been moving shit around in the house and have maybe come up with a better area that will be about 5'10x3'6x2. My only worry with that is it's in my closet and since this would be my first indoor, I'm not sure how the smell will affect my clothes. I do plan on using a scrubber and maybe even some ONA packs, but I have no experience to tell me those will do enough to get rid of the smell and I certainly can't go around with my clothes smelling, ya know? Thanks for chiming in btw!

Edit: I just realized that in the OP I said it would be in my closet. The closet I was talking about was a utility closet in the hallway, the second spot would be my actual closet where my clothes are stored.

I can tell you before even setting it up (even with an inroom scrubber and ona etc..) that if you grow even the most sub par weed in that hot little area....its gonna make everything in there with it smell like weed & CERTAINLY clothes/linens. Its like keeping your dirty clothes mixed with your clean clothes -though in a clean room, and expecting the clean clothes to remain fresh smelling. Just wont happen.

IDK if it will work for you, but I find diamond film far superior to panda film for wall lining. It's thicker, more reflective, and better insulation. I have 2 DIY tents made from panda film and am now lining the inside with this stuff, it really is good IMO.

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I agree about smell, the clothes won't work in the same closet IMO. I have done successful grows in a space slightly smaller than the dimensions of the OP ( mine was 18"x26"30") and got about 40g of dried flower with room for about 50% more with better training/more veg, but that was with 8x 23w CFL, so much less heat I think unless you have excellent air cooling for the light.

Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong, but if I were to run a cooler grow area would that help dial down smell? Thanks for the help guys, going from outside to indoors isn't going to be as easy as I hoped apparently.

I think the smell is going to depend on the strain more than anything, though I've read that stress can cause the plants to give off more smell as a defense, so keeping them happy should help, but I'm not sure about a direct relationship between heat and smell.. I think 1 smallish plant in a closet shouldn't be too smelly.
There is a lot to take in and think about with an indoor grow, but it's really not too hard if you do some research and think about your variables. You just need light, air movement, basic nutrients, and decent temp/humidity control. I learned a lot at first from growweedeasy.com , they cover all the basics for anything from a small pc case grow on up.

You need to have two more fans one intake and one exhaust for optimum conditions , you can configure is so the exhaust is scrubbed.

The film will not melt from indirect heat. You will get strong odors at different stages of its life cycle. The smell during the transition to flower is strong (I can't wait to smell the ripening phase) and is not effected by temperature

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SouthernGrowth said:

Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong, but if I were to run a cooler grow area would that help dial down smell? Thanks for the help guys, going from outside to indoors isn't going to be as easy as I hoped apparently.

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It really depends on the strain and the ventilation, and you can't really know until you set it up and give it a go. My advice would be to assume your clothes will smell strongly of weed if you store them in the closet or even near it. As Slab said, there will be some weeks when the smell is really strong, especially when they start to ripen. You may be cruising along for a couple of months, everything smelling really quiet and small, when all of a sudden WHAM. Whole house is filled with a thick cloud of cannabis odor.

Like Slab, I love that week when they suddenly start skunking out the place, but it can be conspicuous. I don't notice it much because I'm in the house all day, but then when I go out... I'll be driving my car, and smell a strong scent of weed... or even walking the aisle of the grocery store, and I wonder where it's coming from. I lift up my arm and smell the sleeve of my shirt, and there's my answer - it's coming from me. I feel like I'm part of a gag on the David Letterman Show, and someone's photoshopped a big sign over my head that says "GROWS WEED IN SPARE BEDROOM!!!"

Thanks for all the help @Skunk Baxter, @Slab, and @GuyLeDuche I guess I will just have to give it ago and figure it out. I can't wait to move back north and just do my shit outside, but hey, at least I'll be learning something new

You don't need an intake fan, I have ran many different sized rooms and have never had one. You just need an exhaust fan, and a hole big enough in your room for air to be sucked in. It just can't be too big that you lose negative pressure because then the smell will leak out even if you have a carbon filter. And your clothes are going to reek no matter what if they are in there with your plants, sorry but it's just not gonna happen. Even some low odor strains like Northern Lights, or C99 that don't put off much of a weed smell are still going to seep into your clothes and smell them up.

Panda film will not melt unless you have it extremely close to the light, and I don't know why anyone would have it that close. Just keep it a few inches away and you should be good. Get you a good Phresh carbon filter.... trust me they are worth it.. a cheap inline fan from ebay like VenTech (can be had for $65ish).. cut a hole for your intake and you should be good. Vent the air from the light to outside of that room. Your intake hole needs to be about three? times the size as the exhaust hole. Been awhile since I looked up the dimensions but you can find them online. But don't waste your money on an intake when the air will be sucked in anyways by the exhaust forcing it out.

Couldnt have said it better ^^
I've never run an intake fan on ANY of my setups. Currently running this configuration for 2 yrs trouble free. 8'x9'x7' room with a I believe a 390cfm 6" exhaust fan going from scrubber - lights - outside and an 8" passive inlet that can exchange the air in the entire room in about 2-3 minutes. Inlet fans are a waste of $, energy, and create extra noise in my opinion.

Very true, I don't know why anybody uses them unless they just don't know any better. Or at least, I can't think of a reason myself. With the exhaust air blowing out it automatically sucks air in meaning a fan blowing air in wouldn't make any difference at all except like you mentioned with extra noise, energy etc. I currently have a similar setup which goes phresh filter -> light -> fan -> blowing out. But whenever I ran a bigger room with more lights I always ran a separate fan for the lights that went through all of them, and a separate fan from the filter going out. To do this without having an extra filter for the lights you need to start with air that isn't in the grow room, so that no air that goes through the lights can come from the grow room and smell it up. I am not sure how much a filter slows it down but now that I am only running one light it works great.

Also, those VenTech fans I mentioned work very well for me. I have like 4 of them I have bought over the years and one of them is a little noisy now but still goes strong if I needed it. But since I only need one fan right now, I use one of the best ones. Good thing about them is the price is right for around $60-70ish to your door. I would love to have one of the more expensive fans that is suppose to be quieter though, just not sure it is worth it. I have insulated mine some and the sound has gotten much quieter but I still plan to build a box around it and enclose it with insulation. Also remember a 6" fan that is turned down in speed is quieter then a 4" running full blast. If I had to do it all over again I would have bought 8-10" fans instead of 6" ones and just turned the speed down on them so they still pushed as much as a 6" but much quieter.

And lastly, do NOT skimp out on your filter system. I know many do and buy some cheap off brand filter or try to make their own.. but trust me if you live in an area where smell matters just pay the price to get a Phresh filter... they last about 2 years and are awesome at getting rid of even the smelliest plants aroma. People also love the Can-filters but they are about the same price and much heavier so I always went with Phresh. For as small of an area as you have you could probably get by with a 4" fan and filter, but I highly recommend going 6" if you can swing it and just turn it down some that way when/if you ever go bigger you will have room to upgrade.

If you don't have a fresh intake fan than you have less than optimal conditions.
And if you have never used them , you would have no idea of the gains that will be made.

He is growing in a closet, your experiences should be relevant to that scenario.
Forgive my usage of the word need instead of " should"

" I don't know why anybody uses them unless they don't know any better. Or Atleast , I can't think of a reason"
Reason : ambient air through cracks and leaks contain LESS co2 and O2 then fresh air.

SouthernGrowth said:

Thanks for all the help @Skunk Baxter, @Slab, and @GuyLeDuche I guess I will just have to give it ago and figure it out. I can't wait to move back north and just do my shit outside, but hey, at least I'll be learning something new

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Looking forward to the bud porn!

Never had a problem with co2 or o2 problems... not saying it doesn't help but I have never had any unhealthy plants or problems with yield. Usually average about .7-.8 gpw in organic soil give or take but I am sure that could be better. Just not sure I would see any difference by putting a fan on my wall where there is a hole... not saying you are wrong I just don't see it.

He asked for people's experience , not contrary opinion to that persons experience. Trolling is a waste of calories