Will LED lights ever....
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ttystikk
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This is the only thing he's said that's true. Sometimes. It goes up in the summer by 30%
Abiqua
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might even be better to see if there is a difference between HID [mostly convection?] from an LED fixture, [convection, conduction and radiation]
>.106 is my cost
he never quoted a cost, just said its cheap....I have seen over .25x a kwH in Co.....The source of our cheap power is also the reason Wa state is #1....The Columbia River, of which half is going south to Cali too....
ttystikk
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I'm interested in minimizing the heat entering the grow space from the lighting. That's one of the problems I addressed with my setup.might even be better to see if there is a difference between HID [mostly convection?] from an LED fixture, [convection, conduction and radiation]
>.106 is my cost
I have seen over .25x a kwH in Co.....The source of our cheap power is also the reason Wa state is #1....The Columbia River, of which half is going south to Cali too....
a mongo frog
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Rumor has it that 9600 watts of these 3590 shitters will do better than 12,000 watts of hps. Is that true or will 8000 watts of the shitters out perform 12,000 watts of hps? Because if 8000 watts does it then thats almost a 7000 dollar savings where some of us live. And we haven't even talked about the savings on the A/C unit.
Sow to Grow
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Super interesting thread. We recorded a webinar with the growers at Silver State Relief in Nevada. We tried to address some of the questions that commercial growers ask regarding yield, quality and energy consumption. We're planning another webinar to get more data and information.
If you don't have 40 minutes, here are the highlights:
- Dr. Hopper and Dr. Wheatley are seeing improved cannabinoid production profiles under LEDs.
- Silver State Relief has 3 lighting scenarios: all LED, all HPS and checkerboard LED and HPS.
- The aggregate yield for the facility is 1.5 lbs per fixture.
- Lighting electricity costs were reduced by 43% in the all-LED rooms.
- Cooling costs in the all-LED rooms were reduced by 58%.
- Cannabis strains respond differently to various spectrums.
- Experiments with adjustable spectrums are underway to optimize cloning, - vegetative, flowering and mothering.
If you have questions or criticisms, please share. It'll help us with the follow-up webinar in April.
If you don't have 40 minutes, here are the highlights:
- Dr. Hopper and Dr. Wheatley are seeing improved cannabinoid production profiles under LEDs.
- Silver State Relief has 3 lighting scenarios: all LED, all HPS and checkerboard LED and HPS.
- The aggregate yield for the facility is 1.5 lbs per fixture.
- Lighting electricity costs were reduced by 43% in the all-LED rooms.
- Cooling costs in the all-LED rooms were reduced by 58%.
- Cannabis strains respond differently to various spectrums.
- Experiments with adjustable spectrums are underway to optimize cloning, - vegetative, flowering and mothering.
If you have questions or criticisms, please share. It'll help us with the follow-up webinar in April.
ttystikk
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I'm trying to push the boundaries. They keep receding. I want more weight per square foot. More weight per watt. More weight per manhour.
What happens if I manage all the above, at once?
a mongo frog
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Yea i got a question. You mentioned about 58% lower cooling costs. How do we know what the dollar figure is in the first place? For instance if one was running a 3 ton a/c to cool hps lights how much of his power bill is the a/c?
a mongo frog
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Then you've won?
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ttystikk
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Sadly, no.
I get to stop growing the plants I love and start the dog and pony shows for investors and play that game.
a mongo frog
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You mean like higher wattage cob lamps?
ttystikk
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Total minus the lights, fans, etc?
How about adding up the draw of the equipment and multiplying by the percentage of time it's running?
It's not hard to quantify
ttystikk
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Huh? This didn't follow?
ttystikk
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No. If I can look the commercial warehouse operator in the eye and tell him my equipment and technology will double his output without increasing his power bill, his payroll or constructing another building, I believe I'll have his interest. And a down payment.
a mongo frog
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Kinda hard for me to do. Cuz the same guy has another 3000 watt flower room and about 4000 watt veg area. FYI I'm an 8th grade drop out (had to go to work at 14), so it takes me quite along time to figure all this shit out that you guys know like the back of your hands.
ttystikk
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Me too, brother, me too.
Sounds like you need a little practice to become familiar with it. I'm sure myself and others can help answer questions to get you up to speed but the knowledge of how to figure it out will serve you well. Imagine if your old teachers rewarded you with weed and money for doing your homework.
cdgmoney250
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I recently just had some astonishing results in all of those categories under my high power array.
I think you are set-up to do the same.
ttystikk
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Oh? Please elaborate? I'm still trying to figure out how to dial my system in?