*Why are you c@nts such hypocrates?

tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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set side by side and compared, there is no contest.
Obama taught constitutional law , G.W. was a party-boy rich kid who enjoyed the benefits of nepotism to get him through school and his embarrassing military career.
Obama is a smart motherfucker, G.W. is a giant dumbfuck.
Obama will respect international law, G.W. knows the meaning of 'strategerie'... nobody else does.
Obama is smarter than i am, G.W. is not.
I am so happy bush is out of the white house, i was breaking out into spontaneous laughter all day yesterday, was not even on any drugs (besides weed).
1.8 million people came to washington to stand in 20 degree weather to see the innaugeration; when bush spoke later that day, there were still 1400 seats available... the tickets were free... and it was in texas.
Soon bush will be standing on the carpet at the hague.

I will laugh.
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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tinyTURTLE said:
set side by side and compared, there is no contest.
Obama taught constitutional law , G.W. was a party-boy rich kid who enjoyed the benefits of nepotism to get him through school and his embarrassing military career.

Obama is also an incompetent idiot who thinks that the Constitution had "serious" flaws because it didn't address wealth distribution. Obviously he was too busy smoking crack while attending college and taking the classes that covered Constitutional Law.

Obama is a smart motherfucker, G.W. is a giant dumbfuck.

Strange, hardly a difference, both of them were intelligent enough to get into the presidency. Though I don't know if I'd call it intelligence, or the sort of low level cunning displayed by low level predators, which both most definitely are, being politicians.

Obama will respect international law, G.W. knows the meaning of 'strategerie'... nobody else does.

International Law is not the Law of the United States. Thus is highly irrelevant, and if respect for international law means that he is going to do nothing about the idiotic trade agreements that we have signed then Obama should go fuck himself because he's no better than Bush.

Obama is smarter than i am, G.W. is not.

Actually I think both of them are drastically smarter than you are, because you are starting to repeat yourself, and you haven't yet typed more than a couple hundred words.

 I am so happy bush is out of the white house, i was breaking out into spontaneous laughter all day yesterday, was not even on any drugs (besides weed).

Now you sound like a teenage girl... no, not even they sound so mindless. You sound like a little noisy dog. Go bark some where else little noisy dog.

1.8 million people came to washington to stand in 20 degree weather to see the innaugeration; when bush spoke later that day, there were still 1400 seats available... the tickets were free... and it was in texas.
Soon bush will be standing on the carpet at the hague.

Well, it's clear that there are 1.8 Million idiots in the United States. Any one stupid enough to want to go see a politician speak when it means freezing their ass off and risking frost bite has to be stupid.

I will laugh.
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Bush in the Hague, not likely, unless Obama is the kind of idiotic globalist that I suspect he is. The only laws that matter are the Laws of the United States, any other laws are irrelevant, and do not have the weight of force behind them. In case you are failing to remember, the United States is a sovereign nation, not some dependent entity of the UN.

Though speaking of the UN, that body wouldn't exist with out the United States. Our soldiers are the ones that enforce most of their decisions, and give them the military backing they need to be more than stupid threats made by people of extremely limited intelligence.

Besides, you're ignoring the fact that Bush was following orders, so if he gets dragged before the Hague then a lot of Representatives, Senators, staff members, Generals, Officers and line soldiers are going to be joining him.

Not that you're capable of thinking that far in advance. Do everyone a favor, stop immitating GrowRebel and try thinking before you speak.
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Bush in the Hague, not likely, unless Obama is the kind of idiotic globalist that I suspect he is. The only laws that matter are the Laws of the United States, any other laws are irrelevant, and do not have the weight of force behind them. In case you are failing to remember, the United States is a sovereign nation, not some dependent entity of the UN.

Though speaking of the UN, that body wouldn't exist with out the United States. Our soldiers are the ones that enforce most of their decisions, and give them the military backing they need to be more than stupid threats made by people of extremely limited intelligence.

Besides, you're ignoring the fact that Bush was following orders, so if he gets dragged before the Hague then a lot of Representatives, Senators, staff members, Generals, Officers and line soldiers are going to be joining him.

Not that you're capable of thinking that far in advance. Do everyone a favor, stop immitating GrowRebel and try thinking before you speak.
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well then. judging by your avatar, you have a distorted view of reality and it doesn't bother you. You think international law is irrelevant... funny what a large hand the US had in creating and establishing international law. If you respect the laws of the US so much; please stop smoking the pot. It's against the law. I don't even know who grow rebel is so i am not immitating him, or anyone. The thoughts and opinions expressed above are mine and in no way are intended to emulate or reflect those of anyone else.
stupid cunt.
 
mexiblunt

mexiblunt

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Bush in the Hague, not likely, unless Obama is the kind of idiotic globalist that I suspect he is. The only laws that matter are the Laws of the United States, any other laws are irrelevant, and do not have the weight of force behind them. In case you are failing to remember, the United States is a sovereign nation, not some dependent entity of the UN.

Though speaking of the UN, that body wouldn't exist with out the United States. Our soldiers are the ones that enforce most of their decisions, and give them the military backing they need to be more than stupid threats made by people of extremely limited intelligence.

Besides, you're ignoring the fact that Bush was following orders, so if he gets dragged before the Hague then a lot of Representatives, Senators, staff members, Generals, Officers and line soldiers are going to be joining him.

Not that you're capable of thinking that far in advance. Do everyone a favor, stop immitating GrowRebel and try thinking before you speak.
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Even better, cut off the head of the snake. That would be like getting all the crooks not just the driver following orders.
 
Big P

Big P

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liberals have such an infiriority complex, what will they do now,


seems they dont know what to do, they still bitching looool



guys stop being such losers, your winners this time. stop acting like losers and whiners you should enjoy your new found victory.


your gonna just have to let it go little willy. just let it get go. it will all be ok, its time for you guys to wear the big boy pants now

ok kiddos?


its our turn to bitch and moan guys, get off our koolaid k?
 
undertheice

undertheice

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tinyTURTLE said:
Soon bush will be standing on the carpet at the hague.
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along with every other leader in the world? the war crimes of this administration, real or imagined, pale in comparison to the inhumanity and deceit practiced across the globe. those toothless hags, the u.n. and the world court, are as complicit in the world's injustices as even the most corrupt dictatorship and haven't the moral standing to pass judgment on anyone. who is there to call us to task when warfare itself is the greatest of crimes and is practiced or abetted by every power on earth?

this childish insistence on finding a scapegoat is just one of the many ways we assuage our own guilt. we punish ourselves by punishing our leaders, denying our own complicity in the savage existence of all mankind. ashamed of our plenty in the face of a world of suffering, we want someone to blame and baby bush and company are our best answer.

the rest of the world looks to us, sees our abundance, and finds in us the scapegoat for their own failings. we are the big dog that no others can measure up to, feared and esteemed at the same time. our strengths cow the proud and, in their envy, they must consider us evil or recognize themselves as lacking. we are seen as the creature that must be destroyed so that others might prosper, our carcass devoured and our belongings scattered to the scavengers.

The thoughts and opinions expressed above are mine and in no way are intended to emulate or reflect those of anyone else.
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there is nothing new under the sun. you regurgitate only the prattlings of the media and the propaganda of the liberal establishment. the promises of peace and plenty are as old as the hills and you have bought these same old lines just as millions have before you. you have been told that to reach the promised land we must endure subjugation and, like any true believer, you are willing to pay that price.

all that is needed is a sacrifice and you are perfectly satisfied to hand over what is demanded. never mind that this lamb was applauded for his decisive move into afghanistan after the cowardly attacks of 2001, we can blame him for the quagmire of iraq and claim his foolishness as deception. the existence of wmd's is a moot point, the destruction of a cruel dictatorship is irrelevant, any success can be ignored now that we truly understand the price of victory. we can forget that one man walked into the most difficult job in the world at one of the most complex moments in history and did what he thought was right or that he faced a foe too cowardly to show himself, except from behind the skirts of women and doors of temples, and a type of warfare unseen in the modern age. history probably won't treat him kindly, but i doubt it will consider him the traitor to humanity that you are so willing to brand him.

stupid cunt.
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such epithets should be worn as a badge of honor when handed out by the deluded minions of the liberal establishment.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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undertheice said:
along with every other leader in the world? the war crimes of this administration, real or imagined, pale in comparison to the inhumanity and deceit practiced across the globe. those toothless hags, the u.n. and the world court, are as complicit in the world's injustices as even the most corrupt dictatorship and haven't the moral standing to pass judgment on anyone. who is there to call us to task when warfare itself is the greatest of crimes and is practiced or abetted by every power on earth?

this childish insistence on finding a scapegoat is just one of the many ways we assuage our own guilt. we punish ourselves by punishing our leaders, denying our own complicity in the savage existence of all mankind. ashamed of our plenty in the face of a world of suffering, we want someone to blame and baby bush and company are our best answer.

the rest of the world looks to us, sees our abundance, and finds in us the scapegoat for their own failings. we are the big dog that no others can measure up to, feared and esteemed at the same time. our strengths cow the proud and, in their envy, they must consider us evil or recognize themselves as lacking. we are seen as the creature that must be destroyed so that others might prosper, our carcass devoured and our belongings scattered to the scavengers.

there is nothing new under the sun. you regurgitate only the prattlings of the media and the propaganda of the liberal establishment. the promises of peace and plenty are as old as the hills and you have bought these same old lines just as millions have before you. you have been told that to reach the promised land we must endure subjugation and, like any true believer, you are willing to pay that price.

all that is needed is a sacrifice and you are perfectly satisfied to hand over what is demanded. never mind that this lamb was applauded for his decisive move into afghanistan after the cowardly attacks of 2001, we can blame him for the quagmire of iraq and claim his foolishness as deception. the existence of wmd's is a moot point, the destruction of a cruel dictatorship is irrelevant, any success can be ignored now that we truly understand the price of victory. we can forget that one man walked into the most difficult job in the world at one of the most complex moments in history and did what he thought was right or that he faced a foe too cowardly to show himself, except from behind the skirts of women and doors of temples, and a type of warfare unseen in the modern age. history probably won't treat him kindly, but i doubt it will consider him the traitor to humanity that you are so willing to brand him.

such epithets should be worn as a badge of honor when handed out by the deluded minions of the liberal establishment.
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Your prose reeks of right wing rhetoric, so it's no wonder that the righties think so highly of you. Although I see some semblance of intellect in your ramblings, they are way too prejudiced to hold any weight. Get over yourself and come to the world of the future, where criminals like the mighty US president can be held liable in a world court, rightly so. What makes the USA the supreme authority on the planet? Why should we, The USA be so dominant and free from world court jurisdiction over war crimes,(Torture)? we The USA are only 4.56% of the worlds population. Do we see ourselves as you suggest as omnipotent?
 
undertheice

undertheice

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medicineman said:
Your prose reeks of right wing rhetoric, so it's no wonder that the righties think so highly of you. Although I see some semblance of intellect in your ramblings, they are way too prejudiced to hold any weight.
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i'm rather surprised you admit to seeing anything in my posts at all aside from verbosity. i'll be the first to admit that i enjoy the play of word on word a bit too much, but to claim it is empty rhetoric only shows how immersed you are in the national pastime of scapegoating.

Get over yourself and come to the world of the future.....
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i've seen your version of the future and i think i'll pass. the new world order, global dominion and mob rule are not to my liking. i much prefer a future where liberty and the individual are held with higher esteem than the arbitrary rules of a governing authority.

What makes the USA the supreme authority on the planet? Why should we, The USA be so dominant and free from world court jurisdiction over war crimes,(Torture)? we The USA are only 4.56% of the worlds population. Do we see ourselves as you suggest as omnipotent?
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as someone who so readily sees the faults of his chosen scapegoats, why is it you are so blind to the corrupt political machinations of the rest of the world? how can you be so steadfast in your condemnation of u.s. interference in the workings of other nations, yet welcome such intrusions into your own country by authorities that have shown themselves replete with their own biases and agendas?
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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undertheice said:
i'm rather surprised you admit to seeing anything in my posts at all aside from verbosity. i'll be the first to admit that i enjoy the play of word on word a bit too much, but to claim it is empty rhetoric only shows how immersed you are in the national pastime of scapegoating.

i've seen your version of the future and i think i'll pass. the new world order, global dominion and mob rule are not to my liking. i much prefer a future where liberty and the individual are held with higher esteem than the arbitrary rules of a governing authority.

as someone who so readily sees the faults of his chosen scapegoats, why is it you are so blind to the corrupt political machinations of the rest of the world? how can you be so steadfast in your condemnation of u.s. interference in the workings of other nations, yet welcome such intrusions into your own country by authorities that have shown themselves replete with their own biases and agendas?
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judging from your quote in your sig, you have read the Tao. good on ya' m8.

what authorities from other countries who have shown themselves replete with thier own biases and agendas. could it be... israel? if so, i agree with you on at least that one point.
whoah...
 
undertheice

undertheice

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tinyTURTLE said:
what authorities from other countries who have shown themselves replete with their own biases and agendas. could it be... israel? if so, i agree with you on at least that one point.
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are we engaging in a bit more of that national pastime? in the game of one-up-manship that is international politics, all nations have their own agendas. the weak attempt to gain some advantage, as the strong do their best to hold on to their place in the world. the impoverished fight for a larger piece of the global pie, as the wealthy strive to fend off those intrusions and grow their empires. real justice is rare and altruism is rarer still. we aknowledge all this in our own people, but seem to refuse to admit that the rest of the world's governments play by these same rules. international courts and the opinion of the global community are no more fair or rational than their counterparts here, so why should we put our faith in them when we don't even trust ourselves?
 
medicineman

medicineman

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i've seen your version of the future and i think i'll pass. the new world order, global dominion and mob rule are not to my liking. i much prefer a future where liberty and the individual are held with higher esteem than the arbitrary rules of a governing authority.

as someone who so readily sees the faults of his chosen scapegoats, why is it you are so blind to the corrupt political machinations of the rest of the world? how can you be so steadfast in your condemnation of u.s. interference in the workings of other nations, yet welcome such intrusions into your own country by authorities that have shown themselves replete with their own biases and agendas?
1st, you have no Idea what my vision of the future is. You only have your twisted view of what my Idea may be. Just for your information, although I doubt it will hold much sway with one so brainwashed, I happen to value highly my individual rights and liberty, much of which have been eroded under the previous regime, (Your choices I believe).
2nd, although I surmise that other governments are as corrupt as ours, and have every bit the evil desires, none are powerful enough to carry them out, ours is. This makes them the quintessential evil. They have the desire and the means to carry it out. I fail to see your tenet that I welcome such invasive policies from any country, including our own.
There is a long shadow of right wing rhetoric spreading through your ramblings, Try and be a little more subtle if you wish to entice others to your beliefs, you are starting to sound like VI, Fucking stinking liberal commie bastards, hey maybe you are VI, or Max or TBT, you all have the same bullshit rhetoric. If you've seen one, you've seen them all.
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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undertheice said:
are we engaging in a bit more of that national pastime? in the game of one-up-manship that is international politics, all nations have their own agendas. the weak attempt to gain some advantage, as the strong do their best to hold on to their place in the world. the impoverished fight for a larger piece of the global pie, as the wealthy strive to fend off those intrusions and grow their empires. real justice is rare and altruism is rarer still. we acknowledge all this in our own people, but seem to refuse to admit that the rest of the world's governments play by these same rules. international courts and the opinion of the global community are no more fair or rational than their counterparts here, so why should we put our faith in them when we don't even trust ourselves?
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you DIDN'T answer my question. who are the foreign authorities in our country with their own agenda? and in answer to yours about why put faith in international courts? because, they are the ultimate arbiter. ultimate meaning last, not best. the last line. they watch the watchers, and hold leaders to account on a series of agreed upon measures and benchmarks for action and comportment.
 
undertheice

undertheice

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medicineman said:
I happen to value highly my individual rights and liberty.....
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you've made it quite clear that you value your own liberty. while you hold your own rights so dear, you seem perfectly willing to curtail the rights of those you deem unfit to control their own destiny. that is, after all, what is at the heart of the socialist rhetoric you embrace. the notion that totalitarian measures should be used against those you see as too successful is the product of nothing more than envy and the very idea that those measures would stop at a point before total control over the population is naive. you just don't seem to realize that your rights are dependent on the rights of everyone else and once you start to infringe on others' freedoms you put your own in peril. the wealthy cannot take away those rights, big business cannot take away those rights, only government and those empowered by government can do that.

while you rail against the unfairness of the haves vs the have-nots and demand that government takes action against every real or imagined abuse, you are undermining the very freedoms you claim to want to protect.

.....much of which have been eroded under the previous regime, (Your choices I believe).
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not my choice, but go ahead and blame me if you must. the path we have been taking has little in common with the tenets to which i adhere. my ideology embraces personal responsibility and the power of the individual, not the heavy hand of intrusive government. that, i believe, is more your department.

although I surmise that other governments are as corrupt as ours, and have every bit the evil desires, none are powerful enough to carry them out, ours is. This makes them the quintessential evil.
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i suppose we all see evil where we look for it, though i think you're being a bit overly dramatic and you really aren't very good at it. the simple fact is that men do evil. is a poorly justified war more evil than a genocide? is massive collateral damage worse than the intentional targeting of non-combatants? your gauge of evil seems a bit colored by the wealth and strength of those you judge.

 
medicineman

medicineman

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i suppose we all see evil where we look for it, though i think you're being a bit overly dramatic and you really aren't very good at it. the simple fact is that men do evil. is a poorly justified war more evil than a genocide? is massive collateral damage worse than the intentional targeting of non-combatants? your gauge of evil seems a bit colored by the wealth and strength of those you judge.

And well it should. Those endowed with wealth and responsibility should walk a higher line. Theirs is the guiding light or should be. Wealth does not have to be a harbinger of evil, yet is seems that it is. With wealth comes a distancing from those without it like they have the plague. It is not only seen as culturally obscene to be friendly with the common folk but extremely detrememtal to ones wealth status. There are a few exceptions one could name, but they are most certainly an exception. Wealthy folks are generally positioned so they don't have to deal with commoners. They have their minions to deal with them.
 
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