when do leaves start to naturally turn yellow?

socomplicated

socomplicated

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was just curious because im 5 weeks nto flowering a indica dom plant, and a a couple of my leaves are turning... wasnt sure if yellowing was normal this far in... n e help would be great. thanx
 
biggun

biggun

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I am also starting to see yellow leaves at the bottom of mine they are 1 week into flower. I have read that this is normal. Happy growing
 
socomplicated

socomplicated

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1 week??? i donno if thats normal...... ive heard its normal near the end, but i just wanna be sure its not too early for my plant in the 5th wk
 
cph

cph

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Roseman said:
they say it is normal, but a little pinch of VEG Nutes (N) will stop it.
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I'm with Roseman. It's normal for a plant that has a 'N' deficiency. Most flower nutes have little or no 'N', add a little veg nutes to your feedings and it should stop.
 
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tokinman

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yellowing 5 weeks in veg should be normal because you are over half way through flowering.. 1 week in and yellowing, there is probably a N deficiency..
 
cph

cph

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cbtwohundread said:
Toward the end of flower/life cycle when ya dont want to give it no harsh ass nitro,.,.,
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Very true. It will make it taste a little off.

I've also found that a plant can out grow the lower fan leaves as the stalk and branches get bigger.:peace:
 
riddleme

riddleme

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Originally Posted by Roseman
Uncle Ben,

I try to read eveyrthing you post and skip the inbetween BS posts argueing with you.
(Like on that Lolipopping thread)

I am on my 8th indoor closet hydroponic grow, and I am experimenting with Nitrogen in the Flowering Cycle because of your posts.

I was using Bloom nutes with NO Nitrogen at all in them. I used them on 7 grows. I was told for the past 3 years that it ws natural for the plant's lower leaves to yellow and fall off during Flowring and I mistakenly accepted that as fact. HERD mentality.

What made me doubt it is when I grew outdoors in heavy fertilized patches many yers ago, heavy in manure and all kinds of nitrogen, none of the lower fan leaves yellowed and fell off then.

Then I read up on ADVANCED NUTRIENTS.
I was told by many growers that use them that they will balance the pH for you and you can toss the pH UP and the pH Down if you use Advanced Nutrients.
Sounded good to me, so I ordered the BLOOM, and they came in two one gallon jugs, labeled Part A and Part B. The instructions say to add them separately to the tank and make the ppm 800 to 900 per reservoir or 1.8 tablespoon per gallon of water.
That was simple enough.

I noticed that one container contained NO Nitrogen, and very high on Phosperous and very little Potassium.
The other container was High on Nitrogen, Low on Phosperous and High on Potassium.
Hmmmmm??? Nitrogen in Bloom Nutes????? That was rare to me.

They claim that ADVANCED NUTRIENTS is one of the very few nutrients sold and labeled that they are made especially for [URL="https://www.rollitup.org/"]marijuana[/URL] growing.

Hhhhhmmmm? Bloom Nutes High in Nitrogen??????

The container labeled High in Nitrogen looks like Liquid Karma, it is a brown liquid and not thin either. I decided to remain loyal to my SH pre-packaged nutes for this grow, but I wanted to try the ADVANCED NUTRIENTS, so I used them ONLY in my 5 gallon experimental bucket.

After two days, I noticed a couple of changes.
One, first thing I noticed is they started having a stronger skunk smell again, like when they were in the VEG cycle. A few days after I first started the BLOOM nutes , the strong smell diminshed. After adding the Advanced Nutrients with Nitrogen, the bad stink came back And strong too.
Two, secondly I noticed that the the lower third of the plant's leaves QUIT having dying off, falling off, yellowing leaves. I was averaging 3 or 4 leaves a day falling off per plant, and suddenly NONE fell off. They all quit yellowing and falling off.
Three, I noticed all kinds of new green leaves growing out of the flowers or bud sites.

Hhhhmmmm, had to be the Nitrogen!

So I spent almost an entire day googling and searching for info on adding Nitrogen during the Flowereing Cycle. VERY INTERESTING.
I ALSO LOOKED THROUGH 4 BOOKS. All I could find is advice saying DO NOT ADD VEG NUTES(Nitrogen) DURING THE BLOOM CYCLE, because of the affect on TASTE. There was no other reason NOT to do it.

So, I asked some expert growers.
You said that you always adds a small amount of Nitrogen nutes to the Bloom Cycle and none of your lower leaves yellow and fall off.
A nameless large outdoor commerical grower that I know told me he digs a giant hole and throws all the dirt away and fills the hole back up with an assortment of different soils, peat moss, all kinds of different manure and bat poop and all kinds of nitrogen. He said when his plants naturally go to 12/12, they never shed a lower leaf. He never adds any phosperous or anything else either. He grows those 15 to 20 foot tall trees too.
He said he does not flush them, how could he flush an outdoor tree in soil? And he says that he never gets any nitrogen-fertilizer taste in his buds either.

And in my asking around, many indoor hydro growers say their secret trick is to add a little Nitrogen during BLOOM to get larger plants and larger buds and a larger harvest.

So, on my other two tanks, when I added one gallon of water back, I added 1/6 packet of my regular VEG nutes. Now they are not shedding any leaves and the bud sites are rapidly filling in too.

And they are all stinking to high heaven.


I think most books and many experienced growers are wrong about this Nitrogen in Flowering Cycle and nee dto experiment with it to get larger yields..

And let me tell you two years ago, (I have pics) I was helping my X wife do a grow at her house, and her husband bought a book and wanted to lollipop her plants and she did. She averaged one and half oucnes of dried buds frome each plant, while I averaged 4, growing the same strain, in the same DWC system with the same lights.

Just because someone makes a name for a procedure , doesn't make it right.
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Just read the thread I posted,,,post count has nothing to do with horticulture or gardening
 
elduece

elduece

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During final transplant, I added a handful of earthworm castings to the bottom and lined up the hole with it before packing the pre veg root ball in to the new soil as a way to prevent near-future(like 8 weeks of flowering) N def for its slow release nature.

Is this a reasonable logic? Anybody?

I apologize to you socomplicated for my intrusion into your thread. This is my first grow too and I don't want yellow leaves either.
 
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