What is ur Breeder Hall of Fame and shame?!

cripplecreek77 said:

Not disagreeing but I don't think I've ever heard bodhis lacks bag appeal or potency. What did you grow that was lacking like if you don't mind me asking?

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I can't say if it is true or not as I haven't grown enough bodhi to be honest, but the potency question/comment has come up several times on here. That is not to say that all bodhi strains are the same, and the overall comments are resoundingly positive, but it's generally not dick in the dirt potency...

I don't chase strains that smash me in the face cause they make me very unproductive and I am too old for that lol.

THT said:

Some people will probably dislike this - for Fame I choose Green House Seed Co. Its not because they produce the best anything, its because of their influence, at least on me. They were the first breeders that I saw as people, perhaps it was because of the era (very early 2000's) when my interest in cannabis really began. They were some of the first ones I saw produce terpene tests of their strains, the first ones I saw strain grow logs (in video form). I have tried a good handful of their strains throughout the years and it always seems to be what it's claimed to be in my experience. I don't know of any real drama surrounding these breeders, and while not every review is expected to be stellar, I believe they've earned it by being a consistent, trustworthy, and reliable presence in the industry for as along as they have.

For Shame, It's difficult because I know everyone out there is just trying to do their thing, and if we're being honest people can suck, and customers can suck harder.
For Shame it's two types of entities
1: Any breeder who is selling completely untested F1 crosses - cmon even just look at a few to make sure you're not an idiot
2: Any breeder who is selling AutoFlower strains without substantial testing. Many swear by their auto's, but I've been down that road and its was a god awful ride that I will never get back on. There may be true potential in that area but I've yet to see it, and I will leave it at that.

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Fast buds Gelato is that potential your looking for. Smoothie is pretty good too. The rest are all anywhere from mediocre to garbage.

madvillian420 said:

ive heard mixed things about bodhis gear.

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coppershot said:

I can't say if it is true or not as I haven't grown enough bodhi to be honest, but the potency question/comment has come up several times on here. That is not to say that all bodhi strains are the same, and the overall comments are resoundingly positive, but it's generally not dick in the dirt potency...

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I can verify the mixed feelings on Bodhi gear because I've experienced it myself.
I've grown out two of his crosses, Blueberry Hill, and Black Triangle.
Funny thing is that I was gifted the Blueberry Hill seeds because the original owner thought the finished product was too weak.
I was also gifted some Sunshine Daydream seeds, from a different acquaintance, for the exact same reason.
I purchased the Black Triangle seeds after repeatedly hearing that it was Bodhi's new heavy hitter.
I grew the Blueberry Hill out and found it to be decent enough and I'm a med patient with a high tolerance.
The Black Triangle looked, and smelled amazing, during flowering, so I couldn't wait to try it.
Once I inhaled it though, I thought something was wrong with me, because I felt nothing.
Nothing in the head, nothing in the body, zip, zilch, zero.
I had planned on growing the SSDD, but after that fiasco I've stopped buying, or running, any of Bodhi's gear.
The space in my garden is high value real estate and I can't waste it on inconsistent genetics.

Black Triangle was strong enough here to hit with Copper Chem f2 pollen and the resulting Black Copper is a.so. Been mostly happy with most of Bodhi.
Favorite father# are Wookie and 88g13HP.

Bad Karma said:

I can verify the mixed feelings on Bodhi gear because I've experienced it myself.
I've grown out two of his crosses, Blueberry Hill, and Black Triangle.
Funny thing is that I was gifted the Blueberry Hill seeds because the original owner thought the finished product was too weak.
I was also gifted some Sunshine Daydream seeds, from a different acquaintance, for the exact same reason.
I purchased the Black Triangle seeds after repeatedly hearing that it was Bodhi's new heavy hitter.
I grew the Blueberry Hill out and found it to be decent enough and I'm a med patient with a high tolerance.
The Black Triangle looked, and smelled amazing, during flowering, so I couldn't wait to try it.
Once I inhaled it though, I thought something was wrong with me, because I felt nothing.
Nothing in the head, nothing in the body, zip, zilch, zero.
I had planned on growing the SSDD, but after that fiasco I've stopped buying, or running, any of Bodhi's gear.
The space in my garden is high value real estate and I can't waste it on inconsistent genetics.

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Who would you say is a Must Try breeder?

hillbill said:

Black Triangle was strong enough here to hit with Copper Chem f2 pollen and the resulting Black Copper is a.so. Been mostly happy with most of Bodhi.
Favorite father# are Wookie and 88g13HP.

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hillbill said:

Who would you say is a Must Try breeder?

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If your having success with Bodhi’s seeds, good for you, I’m glad to hear it. I was only sharing my experience, which unfortunately for me, wasn’t the best.

As for a must try breeder I don’t have any recommendations to offer at the moment. I’ve been growing mostly clones for awhile now and Bodhi’s were amongst the few seeds that I’d run during that time. I do have some packs from Dominion, DVG, and AK Bean Brains that I’m looking forward to running in the fall.

coppershot said:

I can't say if it is true or not as I haven't grown enough bodhi to be honest, but the potency question/comment has come up several times on here. That is not to say that all bodhi strains are the same, and the overall comments are resoundingly positive, but it's generally not dick in the dirt potency...

I don't chase strains that smash me in the face cause they make me very unproductive and I am too old for that lol.

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I hear that, I enjoy a good face smash but it's secondary to quality of high. Lemon fizz f2 from calyx bros is my favorite strain I've ever had but radioactive kush from area 51 (now danky dankerson) is the strongest. Sorry for derailing the thread.

I’m old enough to not give a damn if I’m being productive.
Thanks
Bodhi Space Monkey in the Underdog
Edit: Space Monkey F2

cripplecreek77 said:

I hear that, I enjoy a good face smash but it's secondary to quality of high. Lemon fizz f2 from calyx bros is my favorite strain I've ever had but radioactive kush from area 51 (now danky dankerson) is the strongest. Sorry for derailing the thread.

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I have heard that Lemon Fizz is an amazing terp bomb. Lemon/lime/citrus terps are among my favourite.

coppershot said:

I have heard that Lemon Fizz is an amazing terp bomb. Lemon/lime/citrus terps are among my favourite.

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He has it available in F3 now and I can honestly say I am certain you won't be disappointed. Amazing terps, the high on the f2 is exactly what I like, potency is top notch, and yield ranges from good to insane if you grow large plants. Flower time is also extremely reasonable for a haze hybrid from what I've seen and pretty on par with og hybrids and well worth the time. Best of luck to you brother.

Fame

Bodhi - Best strains I've grown from him are Sky Lotus (strong), Sakura (Bubba pheno is super strong), Soul Food has a great mono-terpene piney pheno good for the sinuses and nice body effects... Medicinal

HSC - OG Kush is solid. Always keep 1 in my garden and a clone in veg. Strong

Greenpoint - Copper Chem is straight flame, Chem Daiquiri has unique orangey terps, Sundance Kid is solid, Grape Punch is flavorful

TGA - Conspiracy Kush is nice, Scarlet Queen makes good hash

Shame
I don't want to shame the breeders as I know they all have a good reputation but these strains were lacking quality or had issues:

F13 Throwback - Old World/DJ Short
Unique, interesting wheat shaped buds but no effects

Cowboy Kush by Greenpoint had a full blown herm

T-Dub by Twenty20 had the weirdest, ugh terps

Space Cake and Mountain Temple by Bodhi extremely high male percentage. Didn't get 1 female from the seeds that popped

Had good luck with:
DNA,TGA, Useful, Bodhi, Dynasty, Mandala, Pistil Positive, ONI (where in there were keepers to be found)

No luck with:
DJ Short, Sannies, Nirvana, Green House, Barneys

The DJ Short plants were the worst.

Best: BOG, Ras of PNW roots, Ken Dog (underground og), id throw dynasty in there too his honey badger, cvc, and starduster were all solid. Annunaki is amazing as well. And Seattle chronic.

Shame !! : Oni, Mosca, MASS MEDICAL (THE worst, has multiple accounts on IG acting as customers giving himself positive feedback while reporting and tearing others, like Professor P, down. Prof p even calls this guy "Ass Medical". For a reason. His star pupil was hunted from 3 bag seeds his friend gave him that he didnt want. Only one was kept because the others were male. I guess thats how you hunt a keeper breeder right), Apothecary too. Brett the self proclaimed king of cannabis who hasn't bred a new strain in 10 years and dropped the "grape ape" that gave him fame and he has relatively no stock available. All copy crosses. There's a few more but almost everyone has done shady shit at one point or another. Oh and exotic and ethos for being sellout, production oriented chuckers who have seed partnership programs where you grow ONLY their weed. I see it up here in MI. 6 strains from 1 producer and they're all exotic crosses. One time it was FIVE triple og crosses...how is that giving people variance in effects, it's all going to smoke similarly. His work is meant to sell to uneducated potheads and people who don't need true relief. Same with seedjunky but I can't lie, he's the one hype guy I trust to deliver heat. But not at a 500 dollar price tag. Speaking of that, I'll add Thug Pug to the shame list. For the price his beans are weak. Still decent enough to keep going though. I know some of the guys named have a heater here and there. But i dont dig the vibes or practices of them. Idk man. Have had a lot of weak beans.

Useful Seeds said:

Ole Foe20......yeah. I'm not callin him out or anything like that. You folks know me by now, BUT, I gotta tell ya that when dude got out, I approached him and gave him my "spread the love" treatment. I offered him everything that I had of his to help him on his new start, was promised a bunch of things in return, didn't get not ONE seed in return. It's ok though, I don't help folks because I want something , but when ya promise, and don't follow through, it becomes a thing of principal.Oh yeah, I forgot about the pics or it didn't happen creed........lol.
Pay no mind to the time stamp on the seed pack pic, someone was interested in a trade for Foe20 seeds and I took a pic of the packs, trade didn't happen, so I sent Foe20 the same pic. And sent him everything ya see in the pic. He was VERY happy to get the genetics back, and he did say thank you........sooooo I reckon that should suffice.
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aloha @Useful Seeds bro......I have tried to contact you and theres a bit more to this then is being said....
Lets start by saying believe I Freely gifted you those seeds? or we did swaps?..........I didnt tax ppl back then (no money was exchanged)...
I didnt Sell Seeds...Im not a Seed Co or trying to be, or a Breeder even...
We either swapped or you were gifted at my expense......
So after I "got out".....and my original collection was destroyed by the Cops....and I contacted Anyone who I had Freely Gifted Genetics to....
You sent me back everything you show and I was beyond thankful.....
Now heres the rub fellaz....That exchange happened in 2017 or 2018?......and guess what happened to those Seeds.....They were confiscated by Cops at the Train station as I made my way back home from Colorado....Cause they didnt find the weed that stunk me up and got me to much attention...but they found my Seed stash......So...their Gone.....Then I had personal issues (not canna drug related) and went to Jail again in 2018....
Since then Yet again Ive reached out to the comunity to try and regain my old work...One way or another to not only continue it but to Preserve the Lines that I had used that are still very relavent these days....
Now lets squash this......What do you feel I owe you @Useful Seeds .....and I'll give you what ever you wish cause I am still grateful....
and had No Bad Intentions At All.....
Heres what I have avail Right Now......Have at it man.....DM me asap, we can make it Public that you Recieved the gift so you feel Whole...
and let by gones be....You good?...
FOE20
- BubbaOkush F6 (10pk)
- FOEHammer f1 (Mishku x RaspWaltz) (10pk)
- RaspWaltz f2 (6pk)
3 - Romulan x Herijuana F3 (6pk)
5 - WhiteKrush f2 (10k)
2 - Gelato #33 x Gelato #33 - (3pk)
1 - POG x Gelato #33 - (3pk)
2 - Gelato #33 x Slyder f3 - (3pk)
1 - TedOG x c99 - 10pk
1 - Riot White Strawberry - 6pk
1 - Dixie Underground blends Ducks Pride - Fems - 8pk
1 - C99 x Dream Lotus - 10pk
1 - Delicious Seeds Carmelo - fem
1 - DinaFem Blue Cheese Auto
1 - WOS Wild Thai reg- 2pk
1 - G13 Labs BlueOG fem (1)
2 - DC99 (Durban) x HHPLant - OldSog - (4pk)
1 - Deep Poison - DeepChunk/NL x Durban (3pk)
- ChunkyCheese - UKCheese x DChunk (4pk)
1 - Dbl WhiteGrape x 95 sensi NL f1
2 - Forum Cookies x Ghost Train Haze (3pk)
1 - RareDankness - IED (6pk)
- OrangeOG x LemonOG (4pk)
- Nirvana ICE F2 (3pk)
- Critical/SS#2 x GDP/LA Con (3pk)
- BikerKush x Lambsbread/Miss U (4pk)
- 818 OG x Lambsbread/Miss U (3pk)
- N-Pride x Lambsbread/Miss U (3pk)
- SkywalkerOG x Tahoe OG (3pk)
1 - Hazeman's Madness (4pk)
- LostCoast OG f2 (Emerald Triangle) (4pk)

Bodyne said:

you said it, @Useful Seeds. Traded and conversed with the guy for yrs, and also contacted after the vacay, and he acted like he didn't know me. No biggie, but when mota and dman both in the old days sent me seemed like half their collections, lol, I knew he might be a lil better grower than me, I gifted most to him. I am sorry what happened to him. I know what was expected of him to join the sagamartha team, which he was trying to do before the incident. It was almost outlandish imho, but I guess thats the way they played the game over in EU or at least Sag. He was a true student of the plant, a little opinionated and hard headed, but we could always talk the plant. Now its all just a memory. But he's a diff guy now, they say it'll do that to ya. I see him now around or following Mota close, not sure if just growmies, or something else. Many moons ago, eh, useful? lol small world

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who are you ?.......your avatar or nick isnt familiar...lets start there....and Ive never had bad intentions bro.....whoever you are....be well
FOE20

vertnugs said:

There was a little fundraiser at TCC for Foe when he had his troubles.I donated a small bit of cash to help with lawyers.The little i knew of him at the time he seemed like a kewl kat.But i'm gonna go with @Bodyne he don't quite seem like the same person.I tried to shoot the shit with him a few times and he didn't seem the most cordial so i left that in the dust.Funny world....he don't know i gave some money to help him out.

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I do now.....were you the one that sent the t-shirt to my Lawyer by chance?...lol....and can never thank you enough for the generosity....at the time..I felt my life was over...hopeless....
I do not feel that way now.....How can I repay you?........be well
FOE20

Bodyne said:

I suspect his security was compromised when that happened, and he may be a little bitter about that, but when you are posting wide open about tony sag this and tony sag that and trying to join the group, this was before the movement is in the position its in now. And when the deal was send 2 lbs of seed to europe before you could join, I just had to laugh. So I figure he's prolly burnt all the way around. But still no excuse. And I gotta say, as much as I like the guy, another one is Mota, how do you not once but twice give up your brand name basically and start over for reasons not known, lol. First hazeman, then this new deal where he's green rebel. I seen him state he's even gonna start making fems cause so many more buying them now than his regs. I got his gmo x bwiz and the freebies were valleyghash x grandpas breath and most everything Ive grown from Mota is good. but I never understood the leaving the established brands he developed. And acting like he got run out, or seems like. Anyhow, enough rehashing I reckon, lol

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It wasn't a Group....I alone was trying to help Tony Revive his damn Company(Sagarmatha Seeds cause were both from Omaha Nebraska).....
yes Im bitter.....hes a asshole....
and other questions...Im right here.....right now......power to it
FOE20

AmericanGrower508 said:

was it HG420 that elite had that huge list on before he got popped? I was on so many after Overgrow went down. UK420, Doc, IC, Canna Cabana, CW, the farm for about a week when it started up, subfools place for a few months. I'm sure theres a few I've forgotten

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sup @AmericanGrower508 bro.....were you not also...StickRickyWillams, and SillyBreeder?....this is you yes?.....
if so....good to see you bro!

My Hall of Fames and Shames?......damn.....that will take a few...let me get back to that.....lmao
FOE20

Best so far:
Native Sun Genetics. Easy af to grow, cultivars I like.
Archive Seed Bank: Flavour Pack was the bees knees
Humboldt Seed Co. Plants just grow themselves.
ThugPug. Ugly ass mutant PBB that packs a friggin WALLOP

Worst:
Dispensary clones.
FastBuds Lemon Pie. Phenos all over the place, airy buds.

25+yrs of messin....heres my 2 pents...
FOE20
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---- Fame ----
Jim Ortega
Rom Joe
Vic High
Nevil
Sam the Skunk Man
Kyle Kushman
Breeder Steve SOL
DJ Short
Gruru KOC
Pacific
Clips
Simon of Serious
SunyCheba
Nebu
Subcool
Heath Robinson
Jeffman/IrieVibe?-BlazingPistoleros
Dutch Flowers
BigBuddha - Milo
BoneYard Tony
Paradise
Nirvana
Bodhi - (Ive gotten about 80% high quality from his work..he has a large body of work but some are Lower potency indeed..Which is fine)
KC Brains
Mandala
Bog
Federation
HQS
Legends
Motarebel
Esben HFH
RkyMtnBuds
Pops



---- Limbo ---- not sure
ndnguy
MNS
Hazeman
StickyRicky/SillyBreeder
Reeferman


---- Shame ----
Tony of Sagarmatha
Sensi Seeds - been trash since 2k....
Barneys Farm - always been rip trash
Adam Dunn - THseeds
GHS - GrrenHouse at 1 time was ok at best IMO/E....
Loompa - renamed a clone only for "business"
Nspecta
Xochi - Goat&Monkey
Rushman
Soma
Matthew Riot

more to come...Im sure....