WATERFARM SCROG!!!! ..first frightening waterfarm grow....Dr.Amber Frankenstien

Hm.. I wonder why you can't see the pic. Anyway, was a picture from the riots and yeah, that would be Greece. Came here from Brighton UK in 2002 and stayed ever since (tho sometimes I still wonder why!) Quite funny pics comparing with your peaceful setting
If you want to have a look check out here (http://www.babylonia.gr/folders/news/topika-nea/Media/Photo-Gallery/koinonika-kinimata-koinonikes-antistaseis/ergasiaka-apergies/genikes-apergies/19-20-okt-2011/thessaloniki-19/10/2011.html) some photos from last wednesday.

Anyway, back on topic, I really like the way you've set up both tents. Gave me a few good ideas to try

the picture u drew me arrived this mornin thanks hun..its better in real life than over a computer screen..ill put pics up later...

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

lilindian,i have lived in concrete jungles most of my life dude.. i know what its all about. Philthadephia, Oaktown, San Diego,New York City. Pittsburgh.. i paid my dues and got the fuck out. cuz if i didnt i would have been doomed to a life of hard drugs and crime. So keep your head up and try to find a way out. Peace dude where do you currently reside, if you dont mind me asking..

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Believe me i'm working on it! You've been about eh? Good to hear. I'm stuck slap bang in the middle of london, has its ups and downs, smiles and frowns.... u know..

Fuzznutz said:

Amber - Good places to swim... The entire Pacific Ocean. Surrounded by 360 of the beautiful turquoise liquid.

I've heard of UV light therapy. Didn't know S.A.D. was that profound up there. Ha, as you said, thank good for weed. Stay healthy so you can get look after the girls.

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Fuzzy, im going to guess you must live in Hawaii then! I lived there too once for a little while. in Wikiki. it was so sweet.
I will try my best to stay healthy.. i like to keep active by running, hiking, riding my bike.. i wish i could swim in the beautiful Pacific ocean though, like you can.! or even body board like i use to.. man those were some special dayz.

Bluezdude said:

Hm.. I wonder why you can't see the pic. Anyway, was a picture from the riots and yeah, that would be Greece. Came here from Brighton UK in 2002 and stayed ever since (tho sometimes I still wonder why!) Quite funny pics comparing with your peaceful setting
If you want to have a look check out here (http://www.babylonia.gr/folders/news/topika-nea/Media/Photo-Gallery/koinonika-kinimata-koinonikes-antistaseis/ergasiaka-apergies/genikes-apergies/19-20-okt-2011/thessaloniki-19/10/2011.html) some photos from last wednesday.

Anyway, back on topic, I really like the way you've set up both tents. Gave me a few good ideas to try

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BLUEzdude. I think those inital pictures you posted are corrupt. Please take them off this journal because i keep getting security pop up blocks.. Thanks.. The link to the most recent pictures you posted were really intense. I hope you didnt get hurt in the riots. I was in a riot once in Berekley California. It was between the homeless people and the University of California. The university wanted to build volley ball courts in the homeless encampment park.. The homelss went ballastic at the notiion and tore up Telegraph ave. I went down to check out the scene and it was amazing. I have never been around such energy in my life.. I had just moved to Cali from Philly at that point.....thats when i first fell in love with the west coast..lmao..your lucky to live in such a beautiful place. If you could post some pictures of you plants with the white rocks and the torquioise ocean that would be so awesome.. Take it easy, stay safe.

kevin murphy said:

the picture u drew me arrived this mornin thanks hun..its better in real life than over a computer screen..ill put pics up later...

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AWESOME! im glad it made it home safely! are you going to get a mat with the frame kev?

lilindian said:

Believe me i'm working on it! You've been about eh? Good to hear. I'm stuck slap bang in the middle of london, has its ups and downs, smiles and frowns.... u know..

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Yeah, ive been around.. seen my ups and downs. i know what its like to struggle. London has some really amazing art and museums.. full of wonderful history and the music has always been so amazing. So many of my favorite bands are from England.. a small country filled with so much creative genius. It was in London fwhere Hendrix was recognized... keep smiling lii!!!

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

BLUEzdude. I think those inital pictures you posted are corrupt. Please take them off this journal because i keep getting security pop up blocks.. Thanks.. The link to the most recent pictures you posted were really intense. I hope you didnt get hurt in the riots. I was in a riot once in Berekley California. It was between the homeless people and the University of California. The university wanted to build volley ball courts in the homeless encampment park.. The homelss went ballastic at the notiion and tore up Telegraph ave. I went down to check out the scene and it was amazing. I have never been around such energy in my life.. I had just moved to Cali from Philly at that point.....thats when i first fell in love with the west coast..lmao..your lucky to live in such a beautiful place. If you could post some pictures of you plants with the white rocks and the torquioise ocean that would be so awesome.. Take it easy, stay safe.

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Pic removed As for the pictures you requested, I'm going to post em after the winter. Greece's best time is during the summer anyway

Hey amber! I had a scare with the red dragon yesterday. Smoked some and like 20 mins later I passed out and started seizing up according to my friends. Gonna go to the doctor this week I think. Hope you're doing well! the old avi will be missed heheh, maybe I'll find a better one soon.

PS you've seen a lot of places and cultures, I hope I do that some day. But I get the feeling I'm going to be in Cali for life lol

Hi Friends,

I am preparing to construct my waterfarm scrog screen and i need some advice.
I have seen sevearl scrogs screens on various waterfarms and they all have been constructed differently.
My question presently is this.
How large are the squares of the screen sopposed to be? From looking at various screens i see some with larger square opeinings than others.
Can you please tell me what size you use and why?
What are the benefits of using larger square openings then smaller.
Dayzt, if you are reading this i thought you said they should be 3.5 inches each.. is that correct? That seems really large to me.. ???

Thank you for your input

Hey Amber - yeah, I like the screen holes to be in the range of 3 to 3.5 inches. Any smaller and it's a bit tough to pull through some tops once they get the large fans on them up high. I think if you're using smaller holes like with chicken wire for example, you'd need to position the screen much lower in order to get the tops through earlier while they're smaller - but I don't know - the larger holes just seem more versatile to me. Sometimes when it gets tight, you can even put 2 tops in one hole that way. The way my screen is woven (over and under across both ways) it also allows me to push them wider or smaller making it simple move some tops out by pulling the string over so it's not as far to move...(I hope that made sense..lol)

Hope that helps! I'll have some more pics this weekend of my latest scrogged VK - you'll be able to see more clearly what I mean in those pics!

Amber - Here's a pic of my modest screen (pic taken about 2 months ago). Even used hemp cord!! I usually go between 2.5 - 3 inches for hole (square) size. You'll see lots of chicken wire and plastic screening used by people, but use string or twine of some type. You WILL NOT regret it. Much easily to manage and come harvest time, just cut.

I saw Dazs' new screen (very sweet). I drilled straight through the PVC and threaded the string. Same concept more or less. All my screens run on a manually adjusting, locking leg mechanism. I used specialty PVC fittings for the corners and few mid-axis to support a random fan or two above growth.

Those two girls in the pic are abviously in soil (all organic grow this time) and 4-5 weeks from harvest. Waterfarm is vegging something new now and will be ready for the screen soon.

Enjoy and happy fabricating.

yea hun im looking for th rite frame and puttinfg it either above my computer in living room or in my grow room...

hiya Dr
just found ya thread and i cant wait till ya set-up and growing, SUBBED!
And to what you said on my sticky, the video i made was the way i very first ade my dwc buckets and still do, BUT now i have added a water pump into the res pumping the water into my hydro-ton and circulating round and around, so yes i can empty my buckets with the pump but i cant see in my buckets unless i open them.
Here is what my buckets are like now
Hope that answered what you said

looking good wiimb...

Dayzt said:

Hey Amber - yeah, I like the screen holes to be in the range of 3 to 3.5 inches. Any smaller and it's a bit tough to pull through some tops once they get the large fans on them up high. I think if you're using smaller holes like with chicken wire for example, you'd need to position the screen much lower in order to get the tops through earlier while they're smaller - but I don't know - the larger holes just seem more versatile to me. Sometimes when it gets tight, you can even put 2 tops in one hole that way. The way my screen is woven (over and under across both ways) it also allows me to push them wider or smaller making it simple move some tops out by pulling the string over so it's not as far to move...(I hope that made sense..lol)

Hope that helps! I'll have some more pics this weekend of my latest scrogged VK - you'll be able to see more clearly what I mean in those pics!

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HI DZT..thanks for the wonderful break down and procedures to follow... Yes that does make sence. I did check out your VK...FUCKIN MIND BLOWING!!! again.. exellent exellent love it!

Fuzznutz said:

Amber - Here's a pic of my modest screen (pic taken about 2 months ago). Even used hemp cord!! I usually go between 2.5 - 3 inches for hole (square) size. You'll see lots of chicken wire and plastic screening used by people, but use string or twine of some type. You WILL NOT regret it. Much easily to manage and come harvest time, just cut.

I saw Dazs' new screen (very sweet). I drilled straight through the PVC and threaded the string. Same concept more or less. All my screens run on a manually adjusting, locking leg mechanism. I used specialty PVC fittings for the corners and few mid-axis to support a random fan or two above growth.

Those two girls in the pic are abviously in soil (all organic grow this time) and 4-5 weeks from harvest. Waterfarm is vegging something new now and will be ready for the screen soon.

Enjoy and happy fabricating.

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haha, thanks fuzzy.. happy fabricating..hahaha.. that didnt happen....l i did my frame which i will post pictures of here in a few . it was very difficult for me. But .. i got it done, it fits and im pretty excited about getting the string on next.. i think that will be a lot more fun than making the frame. Your frame is really awesome. I hope to make one as professional and well crafter as that in the future. I thought working with wood would be easy because its familiar to me.. as i have made frames in the past.. but they were Canvas STretcher frames for paintings ...which were so much easier than this one. The reason being with this frame i wanted to use thin light wood instead of 2 by 4's. Using the thinner, lighter wood created new issues for the corner supports that i had to figure out.. then my measurements were wrong. I had to take the frame apart a few times and cut it back down to fit properly. Just really dumb construction moves.. I didnt plan it out proplerly.. oh well.. Thank you for your input, advice, suggestion and cool picture. It looks like your a very talented gardener and fabricator!

kevin murphy said:

yea hun im looking for th rite frame and puttinfg it either above my computer in living room or in my grow room...

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That made me laugh really hard.. ..hahah...you tripped me out there kev.. good one dude!

wiimb said:

hiya Dr
just found ya thread and i cant wait till ya set-up and growing, SUBBED!
And to what you said on my sticky, the video i made was the way i very first ade my dwc buckets and still do, BUT now i have added a water pump into the res pumping the water into my hydro-ton and circulating round and around, so yes i can empty my buckets with the pump but i cant see in my buckets unless i open them.
Here is what my buckets are like now
Hope that answered what you said

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HI Wiimbly, Wow im honored that you are subbing to my journal here. I admire your hands on innovative approach to DWC.., im still a bit confused i must admit.. do you use that tube in your photo to empty the old water from the bottom bucket as well as feed the water? With the waterfarm bucket there is a blue tube which show the amount of water in the bottom bucket. That same tube is used to empty the old water and add new..its only used for that. take it easy wiiimbly

kevin murphy said:

looking good wiimb...

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sure is!

It's all good Amb. Use what's available to you or what you're comfortable with. Although I prefer PVC, I'm putting together a cedar wood frame for a future grow. Going to steal Kraz's clamp idea so I don't have to build an adjustable leg mechanism. I may even construct a bottom cedar shelf to elevate WF. Thought being, I'll get extra pest protection with the cedar. Hey, EVERY little bit helps.

SCROG FRAME
this is just the beginning..... i am going to funkifize this here frame ..watch this space.. this is just the begiining!




FAR from perfect but hey, she will have some serious personality and character when im done with her! she is really BIG!!!


Found the proper clamps to hold her UP!!!



This is how i secured the corners....i used these on both sides of the frame.



on a side note... this is what i came up with to try to hold that tube in place..what do you think? am i crazy?.. lmao.. ok skip that question... what do you think?


I still have to paint the frame and get the string on.. I sure am glad i did the frame before I got the girl popping in the tent.
I continue to clean the pebbles.. man they are dirty.. Happy Halloween!!
Dr.Amber Trichome

Right on girl... Looks excellent. Great idea with the corners. Hey, if you don't want to glue the tub pieces together you can just change out with a larger diameter piece of PVC

Fuzznutz said:

Right on girl... Looks excellent. Great idea with the corners. Hey, if you don't want to glue the tub pieces together you can just change out with a larger diameter piece of PVC

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hey there fuzzynuts.! thanks. Should i gule that one other piece...the brown 3 way piece(located in the picture lower right bottom) to the clamped tube as well?

Happy Halloween amber! Going to any parties this weekend? I bet you're one of the households that goes all out and has some plan to scare the shit out of young trick or treaters coming to your door lol! Anyways I should prob go to bed now I have work in like 4 hours lolol

Post 420! Had to do it when I saw 419 lol

lol...new update on my thread hun...