vertical growing

bob what kind of collars have you got on those pots?im building one like yours and i was just wandering cause im thinking on splitting 5 inch mesh?also what happend o the waterfall i read you are using misters?
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
this thread only took three days to finish and it would have been hella worth it if bob continued to post pics....
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
jigfresh, today i made a screen for one of my plants in veg (inspired by the single plant scrog of yours) im curious, what was the dimensions of that screen?
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
jigfresh, today i made a screen for one of my plants in veg (inspired by the single plant scrog of yours) im curious, what was the dimensions of that screen?
That screen was about 3' x 2.5' (h x w). The squares are 2" x 2"... and for the way I do things, I've found that to be the perfect size, the 2" squares I mean.

also, what size screen would you use?
I'm not a soil guy, so 1.5 gallon pot doesn't really mean much to me. Depends on how strecthy the strain is. For a really short indica, I would do a 2 ft x 2ft, for stretchy sative I would do 3 x 3. It's a probably WAYYY overkill on the sizes... but it's not really easy to add screen to a screen, know what i mean. Plus if you have tons of light and the buds are going to be big, they will be falling over and need to be strapped up... which is much easier with extra screen room. And one thing... you can always cut off the screen you aren't going to use, once the plants get to full size.

Hope that helped. Damn, I should really do that setup again with my 1000w. I was only running a 400 + 250 for those plants. It's sooo much work though.

Good luck... keep us posted.

*heaths vert setups are pretty sweet :) rDWC king!
Hell yeah... he's the main reason I went vert... and now I have a wannabe heath setup that I really really love. In my mind you can't beat RDWC. I just love it.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
Thanks bro. I dont mind the work, im gardening for HOURS each day so it works out well. i bought the one inch chicken wire. its 2 ft and im cutting it into 2 ft sections. Thanks for the help man, im brand new to vertical AND scrogging. I am selling my hoods as we speak, guys on his way to grab em...
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
whatdoya think about leaning the screen inward rather than outward in order to catch some of the lumens lost going upward. im putting a bunch of single plant scrogs around a circle with 2 or 3k in the center....picture it? im doing single plant scrogs cause im super perpetual, always putting plants in and out of flower. harvesting a couple a week...
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
I can't really picture it, but anything you can do to get plant in the way of light is good. However you might just want to let the plants lean it and hold them up by the screen... other wise you might need something then to hold up your screen, holding up your plants... feel me? That's also something you can change as you go along, so you can see how things are progressing and tweak them as you go.

That grow I did with the 2 massive vert screens was litterally figure it out day by day. I had an idea at the beginning of what I wanted to do... but the plants have a mind of their own especially when doing something like this... so you pretty much gotta work with them as things go along. I didn't repeat the setup, so I don't know... but I would suspect running it a second time would have been easier as I knew what to expect.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
Thanks man and yes i used bamboo stakes to hold the screen from falling when it has weight on it. I feel ya on the whole day by day thing.

Theres no turnin back now, guy from Craigslist just came and picked up my hoods :(:(:(:(:(
 

jang707

Member
My most successful grows ever were done like this with a vertical scrog cylinder shape with plants taller than my room. A couple over 8' if stretched back to straight.
2kw stacked worked the best, with the scrog limited to around 6' tall to allow airflow, base of the top bulb at the top plant height, second bulb mid scrog fan on the floor pointing up and that's all. Pulled over 6lbs dry off the last 5 plant scrog, that's just with large 20 gallon+ soil bins of FFOF for ea plant, no co2 or climate control or reflective walls or anything. The large root mass was absolutely key to reaching that poundage, previously tried the same thing but with smaller 6 gallon containers and didn't get near the same result.

That was with critical mass genetics btw, which is not a low yielding plant anyway. I didn't take pics of it, or post it, poundage was too scary to show since it was way out of line with my legal medical limits. Breaking 3lbs per 1kw is sure nice but you need a long veg time, however I found that veg time can be mostly under a single smaller light with just a few weeks veg in the 2kw stack.

5 plants worked best. 4 would have to veg longer to fill it up and 6 wouldn't fit.
Hey man I just set a room up, sounds really similar to what you had going right here. I am going to do 5 plants in a circle around a vertical scrog, but I am using a titan flo n gro system that has 4 gallon buckets so I know I cant veg mine as long as you did yours. How wide was the circle for your scrog net? I am having troubles trying to gauge how wide I need to make it so I have ample spacing from the bulb, yet close enough to achieve maximum lumens and have enough room to maneuver my babies.
 

sk8punk318

Active Member
I've never done it before for the fact that it's more work for the same amount of yield as a flat if u took the vert. system out. It's just a small Colosseum and now you have a bunch of plants to worry about instead of just a handfull (Depending on size of grow space). it's not really a time issue because the plants are gonna flower at the same time, but the vert. is basically like a SOG,but.....vert. none the less in my opinion it is more work taking care of all those plants and if something were to go wrong it will effect all the plants most likely.
 

sk8punk318

Active Member
base your distances as if u were treating it as a vert. setup and also the hand test works as well for heat. You also have to put into consideration that ur plants are gonna get a lot bigger towards the end of flower so focus more on flowering than veg growth because in the end u don't wanna burn ur colas! if you can get a sealed vert. tube with a inline fan that would help a lot more and u would be able to get a bigger HID light in there.
 

sk8punk318

Active Member
Hey man I just set a room up, sounds really similar to what you had going right here. I am going to do 5 plants in a circle around a vertical scrog, but I am using a titan flo n gro system that has 4 gallon buckets so I know I cant veg mine as long as you did yours. How wide was the circle for your scrog net? I am having troubles trying to gauge how wide I need to make it so I have ample spacing from the bulb, yet close enough to achieve maximum lumens and have enough room to maneuver my babies.
base your distances as if u were treating it as a vert. setup and also the hand test works as well for heat. You also have to put into consideration that ur plants are gonna get a lot bigger towards the end of flower so focus more on flowering than veg growth because in the end u don't wanna burn ur colas! if you can get a sealed vert. tube with a inline fan that would help a lot more and u would be able to get a bigger HID light in there.
 

ledcflgrow

Well-Known Member
I'm only allowed 6 plants, so I make the best of each one, to get them as big as possible with only two 600w. I flower 4 big ones and veg two others to go into the rotation once I harvest two, like a perpetual grow. I have two lights hanging vertically with no cool tubes. I removed that crap. More light. Tubes diminish a by like 10% or more. I hang one light lower to the ground, and another higher up, so the whole tree gets hit with pretty even lux, 40,000-50,000. Enter is not working here for some reason for me. Anyway. I then keep my 4 plants like 8 inches away from the bulbs, each one on home made turntables. I coverted $29 Christmas tree rotaters, the kind for artificial Christmas trees. I took it apart, cut the length down, then glued a 18 inch round piece of wood to it so I could place my coco+perlite plants on them. Works great. However, I just finished the construction, so I don't know if I will see better yields than my lst horizontal methods. Based on the lux readings from the plants from top the bottom, I should get a better yield. I will see. The turn tables turn one full rotation every 70 seconds. This should keep them from burning, and growing very evenly.
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
Let us know how it goes. Also there is a whole section for vertical growing now... Might want to atop bye there to share what's going on with you as well.

annoying about the new line bug huh. I had that happen for a while.
 

Serial_Stoner415

Active Member
Hey guys been reading this thread and have a question. If the light is hanging vert and is in the middle of the plants how does the light reach the outside of the plants...does that require rotating the plants or just leave it?
 
Top