Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

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    Sedan Well-Known Member

    Qualifying match for the World Cup 2014 November Ukraine-France, who understands the soccer, he will understand. Do not confuse it, it's a Russian commentator,

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    Sedan Well-Known Member

    The lower part of the SDU "Pegas M"

    after work

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    I really want to transfer plants to blooming, but as always, the eternal problem with .... Do not give me the son of a bitch Joe Biden billion)))). Can someone fire? ))))
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    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    What variety is this?
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    if I'm not mistaken, then 6 photos on top and the third from the bottom is not from that cycle! Other photos, this is my penultimate cycle of 1.6 kg (for the cycle has time to ripen 2 auto, so the variety), and the last a little later read, there is 2.5 kg. This time I'm going to a record, I plan to get 3 kg. dry. This is not a joke, Bro ... this is my goal!
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    .....sorry guys but I'm not shocked, I would be if it had happened other wise. That is how shit works , one side has the money and the other side needs the money, or let's say wants the money sooooo badly, next question is, what to do and when to do.
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    Frajola Well-Known Member

    I liked the name very much " Silo Grow Method" :clap: as long I use that for medical purposes to fix whatever is wrong with me, I also would call as " Silo medGrow Method" . joking :bigjoint:

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    Joe must fire a joint first , then......
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    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    That is very impressive if you can hit those numbers. No doubt I think you can of course the variety of weed also determines yield as well. A plant such as critical Bilbo will yield a lot more than girl scout cookies.
    3 kg is roughly 6.7 pounds.
    I'm growing horizontal and vertically. Scrog for my horizontal and stadium for my vertical grow.

    Thought about trying the setup you have. What is the diameter of your cage? Height? Measured from floor or top of dirt?
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    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    What he is basically stating is the shape your grow is in.

    This is a silo

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    I know in the Ukraine their are many farmers that have left America and traveled to Ukraine to farm. It's interesting listening to their stories on how it's different over in the Ukraine than here.
    You guys have some superb farmland among the best in the world. Just do not have the infrastructure to support its potential like we do here in America.
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    gr865 Well-Known Member

    That is one of the reasons Russia is so interested.
    I majored in Agronomy, and one of my profs was from the Ukraine, very interesting man. The paper I did for that class was to provide equipment and expertise in the major grow zones of the world. Did not consider the politics of the time so the paper did not do well, but it was very pro agriculture with only minimum chemical influence. It stressed organics, because of the soils in those regions needed no secondary input. Those areas of the globe require little input to produce quality products. What has happened in the US is that the excellent farm lands have been destroyed trying to continuously increase yields.
    My point is that if you push the prime grow areas they will reach a point that they will produce less than lands that are less than prime. There are plenty enough good farm lands throughout the globe to produce the quantity of foods needed to feed the world, IF THEY ARE MANAGED PROPERLY. NO GMO'S, REDUCED CHEMICAL INPUT, MORE IPM (INTEGRATED PLANT MANAGEMENT).
    Off the soapbox, in reality we know it is up to the gov's of each country to set the rules for agronomy, sad but true, they are not pro people.
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    the fact of the matter is that those people that you say, without money, just have money !! I will say more, they were already millionaires before the above events !! Speech about what is not enough for them !!! And in order to become multimillionaires from millionaires, they are ready to do anything, up to the betrayal of their country and the murder of its citizens !!
    And this applies not only to Ukraine, it concerns the USA too !! Recall at least 9/11 or the war in Iraq, where for someone's selfish interests, young American guys from poor neighborhoods perished. I will say more, they were forced to still kill innocent people, citizens of Iraq. And they were guilty only in the fact that they did not frighten the aggressor, and they gave him a worthy rebuff, defending their homeland !!

    I like medical marijuana too .. but there are people who love such varieties (AK47), from which the heart pounding, incomprehensible fear, anxiety paranoia .. To him, too, the setup will do ..

    Thanks, Вro, for advice !!

    I understand that reading everything is very difficult, therefore, I apologize, I will repeat!

    In order to get a patent, and officially register a world record, I need to ensure that the law of this state does not prohibit the cultivation of marijuana at home. For this I chose Canada.

    The serial installation will be for 4 plants no more than a meter in height, Accordingly, the installation will be with one lamp of 600 sodium or, accordingly, LE, in the future.

    The installation option that you see is the installation is designed for the countries of the former USSR, there are two lamps. At me now the diameter below 1,1 m, above - 0,8 m, height of legs - 0,3 m, height of a basket for a ground - 0,3 m, height from a ground up to a dome - 1,8 m.

    You are absolutely right!! You will not believe, when the Germans invaded the USSR, then they together with slaves, cattle, grain, etc. (all that was stolen), exported by train to Germany ............. Ukrainian black earth! Soil in Ukraine is one of the most fertile in the world - a fact! But it does not concern me, our black earth is not very suitable for cannabis. I buy in garden stores!

    The question is not in the means or possibilities, the question is in the approach, or, if you want, in the mentality or public policy !! As I said, all the key aspects ,. incl. the agrarian industry, are occupied by those clans about which I spoke above !! In this elite club do not let strangers!

    Knowing exactly that the elite club is essentially a monopolist, and has no competition, the members of the club have no need to monitor the quality of products, and spend their sraptions on improving conditions and raising the level !! They are the main number! Because other products NO!!

    A hardworking peasant who starts work at dawn, and ends up with a decline, can not compete with the Giants !! He only has one !! To sell products to these giants at a reduced price !! In the end, what quality products will this hardworking peasant produce for giants ??? !!!

    Another important factor: workers at that enterprise receive a scanty salary, because their owner (member of the club) is a greedy son of a bitch !!!!!!!!!! What remains for these unfortunate workers to feed their families ?? !! Only steal in the workplace with your employer !!! Product quality is better from this ?? !!)))

    Therefore, all these global agricultural enterprises, in fact, belong to the state, and serve as incomprehensible for what and what! Because at us in supermarkets a potato from Egypt, and apples from Spain are on sale !!!

    You still do not understand, Brothers ?? !!! We need ..... Stalin, then there will be order and we will be respected !! A Russian man can only be beaten with a stick to force him to do qualitatively and not to steal !!!!!

    As you have in some state, I would issue a law for the whole of Russia.

    It would sound like this:

    For getting a bribe, you can beat an official with a stick, the thickness that you can shove him in the ass!

    Than a lot of bribes, so stick .. accordingly thicker !!)))

    Read Anton Chekhov, you will surely understand the soul of a Russian person !!

    You see, I'm frank with you, I show both sides of the medal !!!

    PS: In our villages, this is the situation now: ordinary people pay dearly for gas to heat their homes !! Impossibly expensive !! So they go to the forest and cut it for firewood !! For deforestation prison term of 5 years !! That you have chosen: to sit 5 years in prison or to freeze every winter with your children !!!! ????? And these fucking bitches, they divide billions and people lie shamelessly !! I hate them with all my heart !!!
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    Sedan Well-Known Member

    Lovely cats !! My wife really liked!
    Bro, why are they so sad?[​IMG] ... I thought American cats always smile and chew chewing [​IMG]!!)))

    joke !![​IMG]
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    A Malefactor by

    Anton Chekhov 1885

    (Anton Chekhov's father comes from the Kharkov region ..)


    A Malefactor

    AN exceedingly lean little peasant, in a striped hempen shirt and patched drawers, stands facing the investigating magistrate. His face overgrown with hair and pitted with smallpox, and his eyes scarcely visible under thick, overhanging eyebrows have an expression of sullen moroseness. On his head there is a perfect mop of tangled, unkempt hair, which gives him an even more spider-like air of moroseness. He is barefooted.

    "Denis Grigoryev!" the magistrate begins. "Come nearer, and answer my questions. On the seventh of this July the railway watchman, Ivan Semyonovitch Akinfov, going along the line in the morning, found you at the hundred-and-forty-first mile engaged in unscrewing a nut by which the rails are made fast to the sleepers. Here it is, the nut! . . . With the aforesaid nut he detained you. Was that so?"


    "Was this all as Akinfov states?"

    "To be sure, it was."

    "Very good; well, what were you unscrewing the nut for?"


    "Drop that 'wha-at' and answer the question; what were you unscrewing the nut for?"

    "If I hadn't wanted it I shouldn't have unscrewed it," croaks Denis, looking at the ceiling.

    "What did you want that nut for?"

    "The nut? We make weights out of those nuts for our lines."

    "Who is 'we'?"

    "We, people. . . . The Klimovo peasants, that is."

    "Listen, my man; don't play the idiot to me, but speak sensibly. It's no use telling lies here about weights!"

    "I've never been a liar from a child, and now I'm telling lies . . ." mutters Denis, blinking. "But can you do without a weight, your honour? If you put live bait or maggots on a hook, would it go to the bottom without a w eight? . . . I am telling lies," grins Denis. . . . "What the devil is the use of the worm if it swims on the surface! The perch and the pike and the eel-pout always go to the bottom, and a bait on the surface is only taken by a shillisper, not very often then, and there are no shillispers in our river. . . . That fish likes plenty of room."

    "Why are you telling me about shillispers?"

    "Wha-at? Why, you asked me yourself! The gentry catch fish that way too in our parts. The silliest little boy would not try to catch a fish without a weight. Of course anyone who did not understand might go to fish without a weight. There is no rule for a fool."

    "So you say you unscrewed this nut to make a weight for your fishing line out of it?"

    "What else for? It wasn't to play knuckle-bones with!"

    "But you might have taken lead, a bullet . . . a nail of some sort. . . ."

    "You don't pick up lead in the road, you have to buy it, and a nail's no good. You can't find anything better than a nut. . . . It's heavy, and there's a hole in it."

    "He keeps pretending to be a fool! as though he'd been born yesterday or dropped from heaven! Don't you understand, you blockhead, what unscrewing these nuts leads to? If the watchman had not noticed it the train might have run off the rails, people would have been killed -- you would have killed people."

    "God forbid, your honour! What should I kill them for? Are we heathens or wicked people? Thank God, good gentlemen, we have lived all our lives without ever dreaming of such a thing. . . . Save, and have mercy on us, Queen of Heaven! . . . What are you saying?"

    "And what do you suppose railway accidents do come from? Unscrew two or three nuts and you have an accident."

    Denis grins, and screws up his eye at the magistrate incredulously.

    "Why! how many years have we all in the village been unscrewing nuts, and the Lord has been merciful; and you talk of accidents, killing people. If I had carried away a rail or put a log across the line, say, then maybe it might have upset the train, but. . . pouf! a nut!"

    "But you must understand that the nut holds the rail fast to the sleepers!"

    "We understand that. . . . We don't unscrew them all . . . we leave some. . . . We don't do it thoughtlessly . . . we understand. . . ."

    Denis yawns and makes the sign of the cross over his mouth.

    "Last year the train went off the rails here," says the magistrate. "Now I see why!"

    "What do you say, your honour?"

    "I am telling you that now I see why the train went off the rails last year. . . . I understand!"

    "That's what you are educated people for, to understand, you kind gentlemen. The Lord knows to whom to give understanding. . . . Here you have reasoned how and what, but the watchman, a peasant like ourselves, with no understanding at all, catches one by the collar and hauls one along. . . . You should reason first and then haul me off. It's a saying that a peasant has a peasant's wit. . . . Write down, too, your honour, that he hit me twice -- in the jaw and in the chest."

    "When your hut was searched they found another nut. . . . At what spot did you unscrew that, and when?"

    "You mean the nut which lay under the red box?"

    "I don't know where it was lying, only it was found. When did you unscrew it?"

    "I didn't unscrew it; Ignashka, the son of one-eyed Semyon, gave it me. I mean the one which was under the box, but the one which was in the sledge in the yard Mitrofan and I unscrewed together."

    "What Mitrofan?"

    "Mitrofan Petrov. . . . Haven't you heard of him? He makes nets in our village and sells them to the gentry. He needs a lot of those nuts. Reckon a matter of ten for each net."

    "Listen. Article 1081 of the Penal Code lays down that every wilful damage of the railway line committed when it can expose the traffic on that line to danger, and the guilty party knows that an accident must be caused by it . . . (Do you understand? Knows! And you could not help knowing what this unscrewing would lead to . . .) is liable to penal servitude."

    "Of course, you know best. . . . We are ignorant people. . . . What do we understand?"

    "You understand all about it! You are lying, shamming!"

    "What should I lie for? Ask in the village if you don't believe me. Only a bleak is caught without a weight, and there is no fish worse than a gudgeon, yet even that won't bite without a weight."

    "You'd better tell me about the shillisper next," said the magistrate, smiling.

    "There are no shillispers in our parts. . . . We cast our line without a weight on the top of the water with a butterfly; a mullet may be caught that way, though that is not often."

    "Come, hold your tongue."

    A silence follows. Denis shifts from one foot to the other, looks at the table with the green cloth on it, and blinks his eyes violently as though what was before him was not the cloth but the sun. The magistrate writes rapidly.

    "Can I go?" asks Denis after a long silence.

    "No. I must take you under guard and send you to prison."

    Denis leaves off blinking and, raising his thick eyebrows, looks inquiringly at the magistrate.

    "How do you mean, to prison? Your honour! I have no time to spare, I must go to the fair; I must get three roubles from Yegor for some tallow! . . ."

    "Hold your tongue; don't interrupt."

    "To prison. . . . If there was something to go for, I'd go; but just to go for nothing! What for? I haven't stolen anything, I believe, and I've not been fighting. . . . If you are in doubt about the arrears, your honour, don't believe the elder. . . . You ask the agent . . . he's a regular heathen, the elder, you know."

    "Hold your tongue."

    I am holding my tongue, as it is," mutters Denis; "but that the elder has lied over the account, I'll take my oath for it. . . . There are three of us brothers: Kuzma Grigoryev, then Yegor Grigoryev, and me, Denis Grigoryev."

    "You are hindering me. . . . Hey, Semyon," cries the magistrate, "take him away!"

    "There are three of us brothers," mutters Denis, as two stalwart soldiers take him and lead him out of the room. "A brother is not responsible for a brother. Kuzma does not pay, so you, Denis, must answer for it. . . . Judges indeed! Our master the general is dead -- the Kingdom of Heaven be his -- or he would have shown you judges. . . . You ought to judge sensibly, not at random. . . . Flog if you like, but flog someone who deserves it, flog with conscience."

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    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    Do not believe everything you hear or what they want you to believe. It was not that segregated here in America, my dad was a sharecropper and so was my grandparents. My grandparents picked cotton and so did their parents and grandparents. I myself spent many a days out in a field with a hoe chopping weeds.

    Over here in America it seems everybody wants to be a victim of something. And most all of it is made up.

    in 1860 just prior to our civil war a census was taken throughout the country. The largest slave owner in the state of Virginia was a black man who owned over 700 white and black slaves. Yes you read that right... white slaves. Just around the city of New Orleans their was over 3000 black slave owners.

    They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

    Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

    We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

    But, are we talking about African slavery? King James II and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

    The Irish slave trade began when 30,000 Irish prisoners were sold as slaves to the New World. The King James I Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

    Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

    From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

    During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

    Not everything you see in your media is as bad as they portray about America and over here we are told about how bad and evil Russians are which I know is not true. Its propaganda, we have it every day in our media especially with them trying to make it look like certain politicians are in bed with the Russians and stole the election. lol
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    You would like this movie.
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    I remember perfectly Cromwell's Protectorate from the school history program. What time are you talking about now? About the Middle Ages? Yes, you're right, then time was tough! Human life was treated as an animal's life. You remember the sacred Inquisition.)) Or Hannibalism in Africa! )))

    We live now! And the English Premier, does not sell slaves, he's more important!)) It's about treating people as animals! This arrogance is oversized !! In fact, slavery in the United States was abolished only in the 1960s or when?))) About 9/11 in the Russian and Ukrainian press did not write anything bad! This is blasphemy! I learned about the fact that this was arranged by the government thanks to detailed analysis and i education: i civil engineer !!!
    We were taught physics and science about the co-operation of materials !!! I have a specialty: builder of bridges !! I watched the video, and immediately realized that this is not a drop of the building from the impact of an airplane, it is in science called "Directed explosion."

    This is when the buildings are tumbling down so as not to hurt the district !!

    You're inconsiderate, Bro! I'm not as stupid as I seem !! I do not believe people, especially the press !!!
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    I understand everything!! Bro, you do not know what a shit !! Although there are involved Russian actors! It's like the last film about the war "Dunkirk" .. the same garbage!........Actor "Watson", I like it !! Really was that character in real life .. Zaitsev! But Stalingrad, not a topic for Mickey Mouse, is the deepest tragedy for the Germans and Russians!

    Saving Private Ryan is a good movie!!!

    Look, this is evidence of eyewitnesses, and not the delirium of Hollywood !!

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