Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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Riddleme beat me to the punch, but I have few more links. I also suggest reading followup posts as he also answers bunches of questions. If you take the time to read these links, Im sure you'll learn alot. He also reposts his threads as they only allow up to 150 replies to any single thread. Itd probably be worth it to track down the older ones and read peoples questions and his answers.

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/houseplt/msg1100183920892.html

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/contain/msg0918361520140.html?38

This one below is about his soil mix.
*Note, I have tried his soil mix, but I found it to be too poor in water retention(most likely my bark source was too course), but it makes flushing incredibly easy.

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/contain/msg0212444023053.html
 
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tactics101

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So I only had time to read through that first link about the Fert Program I, and a lot of the questions following it. But this is one of the big things I took away from it, and please correct me one way or the other: Assuming I have a well balanced soil composition and my plant is healthy, I would be better off halving my fert dosage and watering with it twice as often? So none of this one week fert, one week pure water stuff, right? And this is because hitting the plant with the recommended fert dosage can cause the plant to basically lock up from an abundance of a nutrient and wont be able to hydrate itself as well?

If I am on track that seems to be a lot safer...less chance you hurt your plant to the point where it shows heavy signs of this or that, and less chance you dehydrate it at the same time...? This would also allow you to correct your ferts if you hit it with too much X Nutrient and your plant would respond much quicker, right?

Don't mean to hijack the thread or anything, but some of these things make perfect sense to me but go against like 95% of what I read most people do. Just want to make sure.
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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tactics101 said:
So I only had time to read through that first link about the Fert Program I, and a lot of the questions following it. But this is one of the big things I took away from it, and please correct me one way or the other: Assuming I have a well balanced soil composition and my plant is healthy, I would be better off halving my fert dosage and watering with it twice as often? So none of this one week fert, one week pure water stuff, right? And this is because hitting the plant with the recommended fert dosage can cause the plant to basically lock up from an abundance of a nutrient and wont be able to hydrate itself as well?

If I am on track that seems to be a lot safer...less chance you hurt your plant to the point where it shows heavy signs of this or that, and less chance you dehydrate it at the same time...? This would also allow you to correct your ferts if you hit it with too much X Nutrient and your plant would respond much quicker, right?

Don't mean to hijack the thread or anything, but some of these things make perfect sense to me but go against like 95% of what I read most people do. Just want to make sure.
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Yep pretty much. Its amazing how much stuff you've read is actually wrong. You'll really learn alot by visiting garden forums. Moreso than visiting a mj forum. Too much hype and hocus pocus here, while the real gardeners and flower lovers dont get sucked into the bullshit that's targeted at us. They're too old and wise to fall for it. Sorry that your old UB :)

We should all pay heed to what our elders can teach us. They've already been there and done that.
 
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norcalijuana

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I don't know if you covered this or not. I just read something in another thread regarding too much nitrogen in the final phases of flowering and maturation inhibiting THC and resin production. How much is too much?
 
StaySmokin206

StaySmokin206

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DaveCoulier said:
Yep pretty much. Its amazing how much stuff you've read is actually wrong. You'll really learn alot by visiting garden forums. Moreso than visiting a mj forum. Too much hype and hocus pocus here, while the real gardeners and flower lovers dont get sucked into the bullshit that's targeted at us. They're too old and wise to fall for it. Sorry that your old UB :)

We should all pay heed to what our elders can teach us. They've already been there and done that.
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Amazing, every time I open one of Uncle Ben's threads I learn something new :D And I am going to purchase Mel Frank's book tomorrow and expect to get some reading done. It is true though, shit plenty of people on this site don't even want to learn how things work or what they are even doing ;)
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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norcalijuana said:
I don't know if you covered this or not. I just read something in another thread regarding too much nitrogen in the final phases of flowering and maturation inhibiting THC and resin production. How much is too much?
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Use enough that allows you to retain green healthy foliage. Its always best to feed at a low dosage anyways, so if you are doing that, it'll be hard to supply too much N.
 
medicalmary

medicalmary

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odbsmydog said:
If your doing outdoor than chicken manure works real good if you mix just a little bit in. the fish is great though. so is high nitrogen bat guano.
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I had some outdoors that picked up the scent of the fish emulsion. they must not of tilled it under. it really hit the back of your throat and could not be smoked. Guess it would be the same with chicken manure or any fragrant ammonia animal byproduct.

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DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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medicalmary said:
I had some outdoors that picked up the scent of the fish emulsion. they must not of tilled it under. it really hit the back of your throat and could not be smoked. Guess it would be the same with chicken manure or any fragrant ammonia animal byproduct.

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I currently use composted chicken manure in my soil mixtures, and haven't had any problems with smoke-ability. I haven't gotten a chance to smoke what I recently harvested with a good cure, but in a few weeks, Ill have a better idea, but I dont see it making my buds smoke badly.
 
medicalmary

medicalmary

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DaveCoulier said:
I currently use composted chicken manure in my soil mixtures, and haven't had any problems with smoke-ability. I haven't gotten a chance to smoke what I recently harvested with a good cure, but in a few weeks, Ill have a better idea, but I dont see it making my buds smoke badly.
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aged chicken manure is top quality fertilizer. I was just commenting on the practices of the grower and how buds will pic up fragrances around them. Not through there root systems.

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DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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medicalmary said:
aged chicken manure is top quality fertilizer. I was just commenting on the practices of the grower and how buds will pic up fragrances around them. Not through there root systems.

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Wow, now that you've clarified it for me, thats nasty. Haha. Sorry for getting it wrong before. I hope your next smoke is smell free of crap :)
 
Magnificient

Magnificient

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Uncle Ben said:
Interesting ratio on a Schultz flowering food, a 15-5-25, which suggests to me what I've been saying all along, that plants need little P in relationship to the other macros. Notice too in this food the high Mg amount. http://petersabc.com/PDFs/Peters Pro/99220ppro15-5-25FPL.pdf

This type of detail and info, without ANY hype, is what "separates the men from the boyz".
http://petersabc.com/PDFs/DataSummaryChart.pdf

What's that you say? No half naked chick on the website's opening page? No colorful graphics and kiddie names? No hype of the product claiming it contains vitamins and enzymes (that the plant doesn't need, not that the claim is credible in the first place nor the amount provided.)?

Here's the entire line: http://petersabc.com/products_2C.php

UB
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I checked out that site and they have a free water test kit. I wish they didn't require a company name. I just invented the company Mary Jane's Botanica. The stuff they sell will be much nicer if the chemical/elemental content of the water is known. Thanks for all the great info UB.
 
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jel

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Bob Smith said:
Tell that to sharks, fish, etc.

Lots of things never sleep, cuzzo.

Regardless, seems like everyone's got their own way, and I'm comfy with mine, so good luck to all.
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I know its an old post, but I had to say something... Actually, sharks & fish DO sleep cuz, they just do it one half of their brain at a time. One side sleeps while the other breaths. If they never slept, they would die, just like everything else that lives...
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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Uncle Ben, found a couple posts from 12 yrs. ago from a UB and Uncle Ben. It was about UV and Dutch seed banks. It read like you write. Was that you I found? Do you think genetics are being effected from breeding in sea level UV? The true land race strains were from much higher altitudes. I have a grow journal messing with UV-B to see if potency is increased under Infrared Spectrum. Take a look if you have time. Fall Harvest is here.:clap:
Daniels:weed:
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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DaveCoulier said:
Daniel, UV-B isn't part of the infrared spectrum. Perhaps you mistyped?
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I get these far red spectrum's confused. I'm sure I interchange them. I guess I'm just thinking of Far red, when I say UV-B or Infrared. I found the quote again, and PM'd UB to make sure it is him, and not someone else. I'll PM you the link. It's a UV discussion, and my Infrared Heat lamp has UV-B. I may have confused myself even further. Thanks
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