UK To Enslave Youth

CrackerJax

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Actually we are. More foreign nationals come to the US to be educated than any other country. There's a reason for that. At least thatcher taught you how to get the stiff upper lip back..now...it's just more pandering to not face the hard truths of economics. So sad, so needlessly sad.


out. :blsmoke:
 

Jointsmith

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Thatcher took England off of the dole....and on to free markets which are the key to long term prosperity. England has reversed itself with the help of building financial centers in London, but where is it now? The entire trouble with the coal industry is related to the US auto maladies...unions.... which keep labor above market value and as a result, uncompetitive. Thatcher recognized this and proceeded correctly. You don't throw good money at bad books.

out. :blsmoke:
Thats the trouble with Finance.... without resources (industry) to back it up, it's just a bunch of numbers on a screen.
 

Jointsmith

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Actually we are. More foreign nationals come to the US to be educated than any other country. There's a reason for that. At least thatcher taught you how to get the stiff upper lip back..now...it's just more pandering to not face the hard truths of economics. So sad, so needlessly sad.


out. :blsmoke:
Yeah the reason for that is because it is easier for Students to get a Visa....

Not because you're education system is good.....because it isn't....look at the global literacy and numeracy stats:dunce:

Who WOULDN'T want to move away from their own economically exploited country >>> into the country exploiting the world (as well as its own people)
 

may

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I'm not going to post on this thread again....
Yes your full of it to the end.


You loosers don't seem to be able to debate without resorting to Nationalism, so I'm going to take the higher ground.
Thats all that I have noted coming from you and for you to take the higher ground, you have one hell of a long climb from the dark pit of ignorance where you are and i'm not sure your up to it.

I could go on and on about the MANY problems with your society.... but you already know what they are, you just choose to ignor them.
Yes you have went on and on and on and on................


Keep deluding yourselves how bad WE have it if it makes you feel better about your countries shitty situation....
The truth here is your here to do the very thing you accuse others of doing and then wimp out and whine someone puts the shoe on the other foot.

Hey, and if it DOES get to me, I'll can go to my Doc (for free) and he can prescribe me some FREE DRUGS for my stress..... actually I don't like pharmacuticals so I'll just smoke it up instead.
Why don't you use history learned from your great schools you went to and your supreme wit to show us the US to be the fools you say we are?
 

misshestermoffitt

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Would you want some kid you've never met spending an hour alone with your elderly relative each week?

I know I wouldn't. I never felt the need to rely on others to make sure my family members were taken care of. I did it all on my own without the government having to tell me I needed to.

How exactly are they going to pair up these "volunteers that are forced to be there" and the people they are supposed to be helping?

I used to plant flowers at the local nursing home, and weed the beds as a volunteer, (the only volunteer mind you) but the maintenence men kept mowing them over so I stopped. I didn't do it because somebody told me I had to, I did it because I'd drive by and see those old people lined up in their wheelchairs on the front porch and thought they might like to see something other than the corn field. I supplied all the flowers as well, and I provided them with nice perenniels that come back year after year, not just a couple packs of some cheap annuals.


I also planted and tended a flower box in my town for 5 years, until the city took them away. That was also because I wanted to, not because I was told to. I also supplied those flowers.

What kind of volunteering that is not court ordered or government mandated does everyone else have under their belts?

Forced voluntarism isn't a good thing. People will then only volunteer when they have to and that's it.


You don't know me, the same thing can be said about your mood and attitude lately as well. Has something changed in your life? You seem to be in the throes of male menopause or something. :roll:


"ghetto boy"? :shock:



seriously, go outside. you seem to be caught in a whirlpool. everything i see you post about swirls back to conspiracies and prison camps. has something changed in your life? you weren't like this 6 months ago.
 

fdd2blk

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Would you want some kid you've never met spending an hour alone with your elderly relative each week?

I know I wouldn't. I never felt the need to rely on others to make sure my family members were taken care of. I did it all on my own without the government having to tell me I needed to.

How exactly are they going to pair up these "volunteers that are forced to be there" and the people they are supposed to be helping?

I used to plant flowers at the local nursing home, and weed the beds as a volunteer, (the only volunteer mind you) but the maintenence men kept mowing them over so I stopped. I didn't do it because somebody told me I had to, I did it because I'd drive by and see those old people lined up in their wheelchairs on the front porch and thought they might like to see something other than the corn field. I supplied all the flowers as well, and I provided them with nice perenniels that come back year after year, not just a couple packs of some cheap annuals.


I also planted and tended a flower box in my town for 5 years, until the city took them away. That was also because I wanted to, not because I was told to. I also supplied those flowers.

What kind of volunteering that is not court ordered or government mandated does everyone else have under their belts?

Forced voluntarism isn't a good thing. People will then only volunteer when they have to and that's it.


You don't know me, the same thing can be said about your mood and attitude lately as well. Has something changed in your life? You seem to be in the throes of male menopause or something. :roll:
just been bombarded with disrespectful assholes lately that's all. go read my indoor grow journal and it will show why.

and you?

i continue to answer and admit, you continue to dodge and redirect.


this is all boring the hell outta me.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Yeah the reason for that is because it is easier for Students to get a Visa....

Not because you're education system is good.....because it isn't....look at the global literacy and numeracy stats:dunce:

Who WOULDN'T want to move away from their own economically exploited country >>> into the country exploiting the world (as well as its own people)
Yep, you truly a one dunce illiterate Brit Jointsmith.

The global literacy and numeracy stats that you're mentioning are for high school or primary school. Not for college. The United States Higher Education System, marked by its high level of privatization is the best in the world.

If it wasn't, then no matter how easy it was for students to get Visas to attend they wouldn't waste their time.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
If you look at the OPPORTUNITY to further your education, then the US really shines..... that is partly why we attract the best and brightest.

Britain isn't even in the top ten in per capita enrollment in higher education.

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Don Gin and Ton

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whats happened to this forum... it used to be great fun shooting the shit with fellow growers, lately it just upped and got all bitchy left right n center folks arguing and we all know how pointless it is over the internet?!?!
 

OregonMeds

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LOL, always with the Jealousy thing.... it's ironic because we have a better quality of life in Europe than you do in the States....

We work less hours, we have better healthcare, we have better schools, we have lower percentage of people incarcerated, we have lower crime rates, we have a lower percentage of people in poverty.....etc etc...

What exactly is there to be Jealous of?

FREEDOM!?!

warrentless wiretapping, your countless prisoners held without trial, your economic slavery? doesn't sound very FREE to me.

NATURAL BORN WEALTH? (if you can't see the problem with this statement you are demented)

Well said and all true, yet too many of my fellow american idiots still believe we are the envy of the world and refuse to see we are the butt of it's jokes.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
whats happened to this forum... it used to be great fun shooting the shit with fellow growers, lately it just upped and got all bitchy left right n center folks arguing and we all know how pointless it is over the internet?!?!

People tend to get a little testy when the National debt gets tripled for a mild recession...that's all. It's about not foistering a debt onto our grandchildren for a 2 year bump in the road.
So pardon us if our house cleaning gets a little messy. Some us are just trying to make sure the economic engine which drives the world isn't shut down for political reasons. You should be rooting for us...your standard of living is as dependent upon that success as well as ours. If we go socialist.... a cold, very cold economic wind will blow around the globe.





out. :blsmoke:
 

max420thc

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dude. if i shipped thirty million american blacks to the UK and another 100 million illegal aliens to the UK.
america would be a utopia and the UK would be up to its ass in crime and the bills that come along with it.
your national test scores for high school kids would drop right into the toilet.
we are not comparing apples to apples but apples to oranges .
yea we do have a government that is operating illegal outside of the constitution.
the difference between being a american and a european or anywhere else in the world. is americans will fight back.
you just roll over and take it in the ass.
you think you have a right to free this and that..most americans think you have a right to go try and earn it.
that is what made american great is the individual can do spirit. we still have it amongst much of the populations..
the segment of the population that is independent , hard working and free.
incase you dont know it . we are the people who support and finance the schemes of you socialists.
if you have never studied how rome fell you would understand that if failed because of the same things we are trying right now.
it seems rome had a heavey progressive income tax on its people.
the roman government was stealing more and more tax's from the working to support the non working.
eventualy the non working found it was much better to stop working so hard and let the government take care of you .
more and more people stoped working went on the government dole so to speak untill the ones left working could no longer afford to support the non workers.
the goths and vandals invaded rome and the citizens in the country side who were being taxed so heavy to afford the lavish life styles of the city of rome and a few others. did not care to deffend their country from them ..they people figured the goths and vandals could not be as oppresive as their own government at the time..that is how rome fell..
and that is how the USA and europe will fall.
the differnce is the USA has the resources and spirit to spring back..
 

Jointsmith

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dude. if i shipped thirty million american blacks to the UK and another 100 million illegal aliens to the UK.
america would be a utopia and the UK would be up to its ass in crime and the bills that come along with it.
your national test scores for high school kids would drop right into the toilet.
we are not comparing apples to apples but apples to oranges .
Actually we also have a very high percentage of immigrants in this country.... as well as a lot more people per sq/km.

The reason you're country has so much crime has NOTHING to do with the Race and Nationalities of your peoples.... rather their economic situation..... by that I mean the excessive amounts of poverty in your country, disgusting, especially in the worlds 'superpower'.


yea we do have a government that is operating illegal outside of the constitution.
the difference between being a american and a european or anywhere else in the world. is americans will fight back.
you just roll over and take it in the ass.
you think you have a right to free this and that..most americans think you have a right to go try and earn it.
that is what made american great is the individual can do spirit. we still have it amongst much of the populations..
the segment of the population that is independent , hard working and free.
incase you dont know it . we are the people who support and finance the schemes of you socialists.
America doesn't finance ANYTHING that doesn't benefit America..... or at least the few people pulling the strings from the top.

Europe is in a contast state of social change, Europe has had many more social revolutions and changes of zeitgeist than America.... again you are talking arse.


if you have never studied how rome fell you would understand that if failed because of the same things we are trying right now.
it seems rome had a heavey progressive income tax on its people.
the roman government was stealing more and more tax's from the working to support the non working.
eventualy the non working found it was much better to stop working so hard and let the government take care of you .
more and more people stoped working went on the government dole so to speak untill the ones left working could no longer afford to support the non workers.
the goths and vandals invaded rome and the citizens in the country side who were being taxed so heavy to afford the lavish life styles of the city of rome and a few others. did not care to deffend their country from them ..they people figured the goths and vandals could not be as oppresive as their own government at the time..that is how rome fell..
and that is how the USA and europe will fall.
the differnce is the USA has the resources and spirit to spring back..
Have you noticed that your country is a Republic, much like Rome....

I think the Rome Metaphor is good.... but America is Rome now.... your the power pulling the strings.... your the power that your former Allies (the peoples at least) are now turning against.

I think you mis-understand socialism.... Rome was by no means a 'Socialist' society... in fact it was very 'Facist' in that decisions were made for the benefit of the Emporer and the members of the republic (i.e. the people making the decisions), and it was these people (and their families/connexions/etc) living 'lavish lifestyles' and 'not working', as you put it.

In a true 'Socialist' society the only people supported by 'the state' (read > society) are the people UNABLE to contribute themselves (Children, the vulnerable, the disabled, the sick).... then again in TRUE 'socialism' there is no need for top > down goverance.

Its all bollox though..... in practice 'Facism', 'Socialism', 'Communism' and 'Capitalism' are all just labels for what amounts to the same thing..... a VERY FEW people in CONTROL of a GREAT MANY people.

We need to get past arguing what METHOD OF CONTROL to adopt, and start understanding the people don't actually need to be UNDER CONTROL.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE.
WE ARE FREE.
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
People tend to get a little testy when the National debt gets tripled for a mild recession...that's all. It's about not foistering a debt onto our grandchildren for a 2 year bump in the road.
So pardon us if our house cleaning gets a little messy. Some us are just trying to make sure the economic engine which drives the world isn't shut down for political reasons. You should be rooting for us...your standard of living is as dependent upon that success as well as ours. If we go socialist.... a cold, very cold economic wind will blow around the globe.
out. :blsmoke:
fuck you dont need to tell me every child born from about 3 weeks ago has a life debt to pay in taxes of £17000 or $25225.56 thanks to Mr Browns bank of England policies...

as for it being a mild recession how blind are you? the world isnt coming to an end because politics are killing the economy wtf are you talking about the banks fucked up by over lending. thats waht triggered the crisis.

the day i root for the usa i'll be toasty in hell. as for our standard of living depending on the success of the world economy well thats in part true. i for one dont intend to and have never lived off the state.

screw socialism im capitalist make your own money and laugh when the poor unfortunates that are bleeding the state dry because they dont want to work suffer.
 

Jointsmith

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fuck you dont need to tell me every child born from about 3 weeks ago has a life debt to pay in taxes of £17000 or $25225.56 thanks to Mr Browns bank of England policies...

as for it being a mild recession how blind are you? the world isnt coming to an end because politics are killing the economy wtf are you talking about the banks fucked up by over lending. thats waht triggered the crisis.

the day i root for the usa i'll be toasty in hell. as for our standard of living depending on the success of the world economy well thats in part true. i for one dont intend to and have never lived off the state.

screw socialism im capitalist make your own money and laugh when the poor unfortunates that are bleeding the state dry because they dont want to work suffer.
If you look into it, the Area's that have HUGE rates of unemployment in this coutry are the same places that had their industries either privatized for profit or closed by the Thatcher government.

These people didn't 'not want to work' before our society became more about profitability for the few, than quality of life for the many (at home AND abroad)
 

Don Gin and Ton

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If you look into it, the Area's that have HUGE rates of unemployment in this coutry are the same places that had their industries either privatized for profit or closed by the Thatcher government.

These people didn't 'not want to work' before our society became more about profitability for the few, than quality of life for the many (at home AND abroad)
in part a fair point ( im from where the miners marched from ) but the rot started when labour started importing people from the west indies to do the jobs the whites did not want to do. now it seems acceptable to have a bullshit immigration policy where anyone wanting a handout or a free house to have 8 babies in on the free health service can cross a dozen EU countries that they can claim asylum in to get to britain as we give the biggest handouts. its quality of life for people who haven't contributed that are bleeding the welfare system.

its sad that there is a big gap between the poor and the rich in this country but lets face it its majority down to the fact that people take further education and get well paid jobs. the areas that have had jobs privatised or industiries forced into closure are actually doing quite well. durham is 3rd best uni in the country newcastle and many other cities like manchester liverpool etc have had massive grants and tax breaks for new industries like callcenters which employed 1000's till they went to fucking mumbai( ive lost 3 jobs to centres moving to mumbai). its the circle of life and unless your willing to retrain and adapt to change then you shouldnt expect a handout.
 

max420thc

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in part a fair point ( im from where the miners marched from ) but the rot started when labour started importing people from the west indies to do the jobs the whites did not want to do. now it seems acceptable to have a bullshit immigration policy where anyone wanting a handout or a free house to have 8 babies in on the free health service can cross a dozen EU countries that they can claim asylum in to get to britain as we give the biggest handouts. its quality of life for people who haven't contributed that are bleeding the welfare system.

its sad that there is a big gap between the poor and the rich in this country but lets face it its majority down to the fact that people take further education and get well paid jobs. the areas that have had jobs privatised or industiries forced into closure are actually doing quite well. durham is 3rd best uni in the country newcastle and many other cities like manchester liverpool etc have had massive grants and tax breaks for new industries like callcenters which employed 1000's till they went to fucking mumbai( ive lost 3 jobs to centres moving to mumbai). its the circle of life and unless your willing to retrain and adapt to change then you shouldnt expect a handout.
wait till they pile so many and have so many of them breeding in your country they take you over..natural born citizens with the votes you will allow them.
you are paying your government for your own slavery . same as your american brethern are doing.
seems alot of us are in the same boat hu?
at least our boat for the most part is being taking over by catholics who breed like cock roach's cause they do not believe in birth control.
and muslims who are the worst kind of cock roaches taking over your country , the UK will have all of their women be made to wear veils and have sharia law in their courts. ..wouldnt want to offend anyone in YOUR native land.LOL
 

CrackerJax

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fuck you dont need to tell me every child born from about 3 weeks ago has a life debt to pay in taxes of £17000 or $25225.56 thanks to Mr Browns bank of England policies...

as for it being a mild recession how blind are you? the world isnt coming to an end because politics are killing the economy wtf are you talking about the banks fucked up by over lending. thats waht triggered the crisis.

the day i root for the usa i'll be toasty in hell. as for our standard of living depending on the success of the world economy well thats in part true. i for one dont intend to and have never lived off the state.

screw socialism im capitalist make your own money and laugh when the poor unfortunates that are bleeding the state dry because they dont want to work suffer.
It's just a recession, don't get in a panty twist...now the govt. "solution" will bury us all.


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