The Vault Comparative Grow, in association with Mephisto Genetics - Heisenberg Special Autos

whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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UniDragon said:
Just trying to use the techniques that I have seen that work. I know for a fact that this guy always uses the dome that I showed you to start his seeds; I know that he told me that sprouts give off a relatively high amount of THC when they are seedlings so he uses a dome to start his seeds to feed the gases or whatever back to the plant as it develops and I know that when I go to see him his stuff is excellent, so I tried to do what he does and follow his advice to hopefully get the same results. Furthermore, he started growing the year I was born, so I assumed that he knows what he is talking about.
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I can understand that. They just don't need a dome. It actually increases the odds of seed failure. Domes are for clones. Clones don't have roots and the leaves can dry out fast.

Take a tour of a nursery. One that sprouts garden vegetables. They will sprout 100's or 1000's of seeds. None with domes.

Pot growers do some weird stuff. I've never used paper towels or anything like that. I grow 100's of vegetable and flower seeds every year.

Do what makes you happy. I would strongly suggest ditching the dome after the seed breaks the soil.


There is no THC in a seedling. It definitely does not release it is a gas.
 
UniDragon

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HS#2: dead. I have thrown out the soil and remixed new soil and took out another seed, #3, and left it out so it can warm up from being in the fridge where I store them. I plan on letting it sit out for the rest of the day and then will try to germ this one later today or tonight. I am also considering changing out my cfl for one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Innoo-Tech-Efficient-Greenhouse-Hydroponic/dp/B01CRWBGY2/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1460206142&sr=1-2&keywords=24+watt+taotronics+led+plant+light.

Any advice pertaining to this light in The Tron would really be appreciated. I used a used 90 watt ufo years ago that I bought off of CL with pretty bad results and not sure if I want to try leds again or not. If anyone can point me in the right direction I may try it again.

As I was cleaning up yesterday to prepare for my next attempt, I noticed that all but one vent was closed in my tent. Apparently I forgot to open them again after drying from my last project. So, whoever it was that said something like: "I think you need to increase your air exchange..." (or something like that) you were right. Furthermore, I noticed that there was a lot more perlite and vermiculite in the soil then I originally thought; this is because my wife mixed it and I did not watch her do it. So, I used coco with about 10% or so perlite/vermiculite mixture in the soil. If I need more I will mix it in later. I also feel that the "germination bulb" recommended by the Tron instructions produced just enough heat and light to grow algae and mold but not enough to support the seedling so I won't be using that again. It seems to me that I read a thread where someone had started their second grow with it and mentioned that their previous grow was a catastrophe because of mold and algae; maybe the same thing that happened to me happened to them too, idk. Anyway, to make a short story long (because I babble a lot sometimes) I have aborted HS#2 and will keep you updated on my next attempt.
 
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Mr black thumb

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Ok why do you have your tron in a tent ? Isn't the growtron a self-contained grow lab? Im not familiar with yours but you definitely have a ventilation issue , and the optimal growing temp in my opinion is 70 to 76 degrees, in my room now it's 63 degrees at night and 71 in the day so it would have to be in the 50s or less in the tron to hurt the seedling get a nice thermometer with a Hi and low save option Walmart has them like 22 bucks and has a humidity gauge on it as well good luck and germ 2 seeds this time
 
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Update ,ALL is well with wonderful growth the organic and the bottle nutes are about the same here is 2 the one on the right has been sprayed with axiom by Rx Green Solutions and it has extreme branching compared to the other 3, I just ordered the tiresias mist found it on Amazon buy 1 get 1 free gonna start spraying as soon as it gets here.IMG_20160409_132108203.jpg IMG_20160409_132118419.jpg
 
green217

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put mine in the ground, all ten. hopefully they pull through alright
most of them took it pretty well, I tried to keep soil intact when dropping them in the holes, but a couple busted up some. The occasional cold nite here and there gets me worried. Not the best conditions but had to do it unfortunately, i cover them if it gets to cool
 
Sassafras¥

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Ok here's my Heisenberg as of a few minutes ago. Been under 2 100 watt actual 55 watt for 110 watt's of CFL. She's in a mix of Ocean Forest, Roots Organics and earthworm castings + extra perlite. As of now she's just in a small 16 Oz coffee cup. Soon I will be transplanting her into a 3 gln container and placing her under a 1,000 watt MH to spend the rest of her days. (: I've recently been adding ec (earthworm tea) to her feeding schedule + a light feeding of GH flora series nutrients.
thanks 4 checking her out.
Peace.
 
green217

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Sassafras¥ said:
Ok here's my Heisenberg as of a few minutes ago. Been under 2 100 watt actual 55 watt for 110 watt's of CFL. She's in a mix of Ocean Forest, Roots Organics and earthworm castings + extra perlite. As of now she's just in a small 16 Oz coffee cup. Soon I will be transplanting her into a 3 gln container and placing her under a 1,000 watt MH to spend the rest of her days. (: I've recently been adding ec (earthworm tea) to her feeding schedule + a light feeding of GH flora series nutrients.
thanks 4 checking her out.
Peace.
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started mine right around the same as u if the date on the cup is when u began. Hopefully we will have some bud porn by the end of May
 
Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

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For my comarative grow im doing coco coir in a 5 gallon pot and a soil grow in a 5 gallon pot the pots are the smart pots supposed to be a hot season so hoping to keep roots cool growing in a 3x3x5 and using some cheap ebay leds so haters hate on im growing with what i got!! And also doing a 12/12 from seed instead of the usual 20/4 for autos as this seems to work welll with my setup just a lil update expecting to sprout out here soon
 
thewanderer718

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Mr black thumb said:
Update ,ALL is well with wonderful growth the organic and the bottle nutes are about the same here is 2 the one on the right has been sprayed with axiom by Rx Green Solutions and it has extreme branching compared to the other 3, I just ordered the tiresias mist found it on Amazon buy 1 get 1 free gonna start spraying as soon as it gets here.View attachment 3653384 View attachment 3653383
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Looking good !!!!!!!!
 
UniDragon

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Mr black thumb said:
Ok why do you have your tron in a tent ? Isn't the growtron a self-contained grow lab? Im not familiar with yours but you definitely have a ventilation issue , and the optimal growing temp in my opinion is 70 to 76 degrees, in my room now it's 63 degrees at night and 71 in the day so it would have to be in the 50s or less in the tron to hurt the seedling get a nice thermometer with a Hi and low save option Walmart has them like 22 bucks and has a humidity gauge on it as well good luck and germ 2 seeds this time
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Yes it is more or less a self contained growing unit. However, we keep ours in a tent to manage light, smell and sound (the fan makes little noise). The directions for The Tron are confusing; it's like, one paragraph will say don't keep it in a closet because you need to put it in a well ventilated area, but the next paragraph will say something like when the lights turn off you need complete darkness, so we keep ours in a tent. Initially, I was going to get a HID system to put in the tent, but I ran across this Tron on CL and it was affordable so we kicked around the idea. My bottom line was: grow six plants in a Tron or six plants in a tent. The Tron is much smaller which would make the grow more efficient, but we already had the tent so we put The Tron in the tent.

We are still debating switching over to HID, but haven't made any final decisions yet. In fact, when I am done here, I will be trolling CL and Ebay to see what ballasts are available that are affordable to us. According to the directions of the tent, (it's a Hydrohut 3'x3'x6.5' Silver Edition) it is recommended that a 250 watt be used for veg and a 400 watt be used for flowering, so I will be shopping for a 250/400 switchable like a Lumatek or Xtra-Sun. I found some off brand ballasts on Amazon that are switchable and are affordable ($120.00 or so with bulbs) but that's a Gromedic and I don't know anything about them and had never heard of them until a year or so ago when I started shopping for a light system.
 
Mr black thumb

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UniDragon said:
Yes it is more or less a self contained growing unit. However, we keep ours in a tent to manage light, smell and sound (the fan makes little noise). The directions for The Tron are confusing; it's like, one paragraph will say don't keep it in a closet because you need to put it in a well ventilated area, but the next paragraph will say something like when the lights turn off you need complete darkness, so we keep ours in a tent. Initially, I was going to get a HID system to put in the tent, but I ran across this Tron on CL and it was affordable so we kicked around the idea. My bottom line was: grow six plants in a Tron or six plants in a tent. The Tron is much smaller which would make the grow more efficient, but we already had the tent so we put The Tron in the tent.

We are still debating switching over to HID, but haven't made any final decisions yet. In fact, when I am done here, I will be trolling CL and Ebay to see what ballasts are available that are affordable to us. According to the directions of the tent, (it's a Hydrohut 3'x3'x6.5' Silver Edition) it is recommended that a 250 watt be used for veg and a 400 watt be used for flowering, so I will be shopping for a 250/400 switchable like a Lumatek or Xtra-Sun. I found some off brand ballasts on Amazon that are switchable and are affordable ($120.00 or so with bulbs) but that's a Gromedic and I don't know anything about them and had never heard of them until a year or so ago when I started shopping for a light system.
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In my opinion I would sell the tron on Craigslist I don't know what there worth but if you get $250 for it you can buy a 600 dimable and a cheap vented hood and have $20 left over for some papers for all that tasty weed...
 
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