The UK Growers Thread!

DST

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Hey guys how's things........just not long moved 8 large (7week veg) plants into flower and have discovered a couple of them have spider mites (fkn gutted) I've never had them before and blame the cramped conditions they were in during veg while the big room was being revamped. .......is their anything I can do to kill these fuks or will I need to chop........?
i use Spider Mite Protection Spray and Grow. Swear by the stuff. Its not aj insecticide. Just a wash and it works brilliantly. Can use in flower as well. see pics
 

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scrambo

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Scrambo, what else is in them pills lol ? It said 60mg of sommat on pack ??? What the fuck does that do lol !!! :)
Yeah mate what oscar said lol its dapoxtine stops ya coming so quick, 60mg is a double dose aswel usually 30mg and theres 100mg of silendifil in there aswel, deffo do the job.

Dunno why, can only assume its the lack of drugs nowdays but 2pumps n a squirt is a overstatement for me these last few months, can also be a sign of diabetis which i got a blood test for this friday.
 

The Yorkshireman

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having used both companies fixtures which I doubt you have i can give you my word that solistek is on another level in terms of product, product range and customer service. Yes I know they are made in China it says so in huge letters on the boxes their lights come in but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are of low standard.
Oh really? What makes you assume I haven't used both company's fixtures? You know fuck all about me.

I've already said I know who manufactures Solistek kit because I was going to commission the manufacturer to produce OEM equipment for me some years ago.
There's a huge difference between European QC and Chinese QC.

The Hawthorne Group which is a subsidiary of Scott’s and are famous for buying agricultural related companies and stripping the arse out of their quality control to increase overheads.
The Hawthorne Group also own the brands Can Filter (that you recommended) and Can Fan.
I've proven with the pictures I posted that Can Fan's are actually rebranded Ruck fans made in Germany. Ruck being the original and best inline fan manufacturer.
So The Hawthorne Group owning Gavita means fuck all and it doesn't mean Gavita quality standards have gone downhill, it's just your say so that they have.

I ran gavita for years and never had a problem with any fixtures.
So your assertion that Gavita QC has gone downhill is hearsay and not based on fact or personal experience.




Rhino filters are awful but like I said before that mainly applies to the 10 and 12 inch models which is the size I buy. Below that size the filters for hobby growers like yourself probably are passable. I use mountain air and have done for years, fantastic filters.
No Rhino filters are not awful, I pointed out that they've won a consumer award in 2015 so the thousands of customers obviously don't think so.

By your own words you've had 1 Rhino years ago but even said you can't remember what you didn't like about it.
So by that your opinion is invalid.

You say that you've seen a video of a Rhino filter with half empty carbon beds, yet you haven't linked the video (to back up your claim) of a brand new Rhino Pro being taken out of sealed box, having it's rivets drilled and the carbon bed pulled out for all to see.
We have a saying round here, "pictures or it didn't happen" so unless you can link the said video that I'm sure most of us would like to see then I call bullshit, I don't think you've ever seen a brand new Rhino filter with half empty carbon beds.
Like I said, Rhino filters are mass produced and machine packed so it's pretty much impossible for the beds to be half empty or full of gaps. It doesn't make any difference what size the filter is, they're all mass produced and machine packed.
10 and 12 inch models you say are crap, but again in your own words you've only had 1, can't say what you didn't like about it (so just a feeling then, nothing objective) and haven't shown any evidence of them being proven to be crap, so it's all your opinion based on no facts whatsoever.

"hobby growers like yourself"?
Wow, what a fucking pretentious twat you are. Because I posted a picture of relatively small Rhino filters compared to the 10/12 inch filters you use then that makes me a hobby grower does it? :roll:

Well here's an 8 inch Rhino Pro too.
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Do I have to go out and buy a filter 2 inches bigger to be not be considered a hobby grower and to know what I'm talking about? :roll:

A hobby grower by definition would be somebody that grows a small amount for hobby purposes, that's not me.
I grow for a living and grow decent amounts, but again, you know fuck all about me.

Like I said, they're mass produced and machine packed, it doesn't matter what size of filter it is because they're all made to exactly the same standards.
Unless you can PROVE otherwise your opinion isn't worth shit.

I think your head is ever so slightly lodged up your arse as you don’t seem to be able to discuss matters in a civil way.
You can't discuss matters with any facts, only your baseless opinion.
You expect people to take your word that a product is shit just because you say so without providing anything objective to back it up.
You're the one with your head up your arse.

All I can say is I’ve grown for 20 years
I've grown for longer, I'm 40 and grew my first plant when I was 18. And what?

I’ve used my own brain
Clearly not when you are trying to say that small Rhino filters are ok but large ones are crap despite them all being mass produced and machine packed exactly the same way. :lol:

if I say something is good or bad I am speaking from first hand experience and not from hearsay.
What a load of bollocks!
You said that Rhino filters are shit based on hearsay, "ask any clued up shop owner" you said.
"I've seen a video" you said.
You even posted a picture of a post by a shop owner that stocks a rival brand (Phresh Filters) to back up your assertion.
You recommended Phresh Filters based entirely on hearsay, "I've heard good things" you said.

I even told you that Phresh Filters and Rhino Filters are nearly exactly the same, practically identical apart from the slight difference in carbon particle size.
I even said that in my opinion they're made in exactly the same factory by the same Chinese manufacturer, because I've had both filters side by side for comparison.

You said that Rhino Filters are bad based entirely on hearsay, with no objective information at all.
You even tried spreading a completely false rumour that Rhino got called out for using shit carbon, a rumour that is completely untrue.
The rumour was started by distributors of rival brands and perpetuated by idiots who run too high humidity, the rumour you tried spreading is also hearsay and not based on fact.
I explained scientifically why high humidity would fuck a rhino filter based on the carbon particle size used and the carbon gap size, due to said carbon particle size used.


You're so full of shit dude.
 
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The Yorkshireman

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A member posts a picture of his new gear that he's obviously spent a couple of grand on, a purchase most growers worth their salt would consider a wise investment.

Another member comes on and knocks the new gear purchase telling him to return all his kit and get his money back because it's all shit.
It's all shit based on hearsay with no objective reasoning or facts to back it up at all, it's just shit because 'I say so' in effect.

I come on and point out that he's talking crap with no evidence or facts to back up what he says whilst providing facts and evidence to prove my point, he's just knocking the purchase for the sake of knocking it really.

To defend his bullshit ragging on brands for no reason he says he speaks from personal experience and not hearsay, despite all his points (apart from in his opinion that 1 brand has a better product range, product and customer service than another) is all hearsay with no personal experience at all.

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The Yorkshireman

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Limonene your opinion that Solistek makes a better product, has a better product range and has better customer service than Gavita is exactly that, your opinion.
You're entitled to your opinion but your opinion is not objective fact so don't come knocking somebody else's purchase as if your opinion is fact.

Your opinion that Rhino filters are shit is exactly that, your opinion.
But in this case you're not entitled to an opinion when you have no real experience with the brand and base your opinion on lies, rumours, wild assertions of others who have a financial interest in giving the brand a bad name and also logical fallacy's like a 'plead to authority'.

By all means recommend a product based on your experience, but don't knock a product based on.....

"I had one but can't remember what I didn't like about it"
"ask any clued up shop owner"
"Nobody I know fucks with them"
"They got called out for" (untrue)
"I've seen a video" (can't provide)

And then contradict yourself by saying you speak from personal experience and not hearsay.
Because your opinion is then automatically invalid and you just make yourself look like pretentious twat.
 

The Yorkshireman

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Has no experience with Rhino filters but still tries to tell me (somebody who does have experience with the products) that they're shit, just because 'reasons'.

:roll:.......:clap:.......:dunce:
 

bazoomer

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Goodevening Yorky, hope ya good . Long time ,no educating, anything different in your stable other than gg or exo ?
PS. I've only ever used rhino filters & RVK fans ,just over last year or so I noticed the new ones were struggling, had to deal with high humidity though i suppose, 70 + so....
 

DST

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I just assume my filters work as the exhaust goes into the buildings central air conditioning system. My neighbours have never complained. The last filter I bought was a 10inch Canfilter ting only becuase it was what they have in the now closed down local grow shop. I actually wanted an 8 inch to fit my fan but got a 10inch becuase I felt the 8 would make me look like a hobby grower like Yorky Lol. :)

Good luck with those beans Zedd. Hope you find something nice.
 

limonene

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Limonene your opinion that Solistek makes a better product, has a better product range and has better customer service than Gavita is exactly that, your opinion.
You're entitled to your opinion but your opinion is not objective fact so don't come knocking somebody else's purchase as if your opinion is fact.

Your opinion that Rhino filters are shit is exactly that, your opinion.
But in this case you're not entitled to an opinion when you have no real experience with the brand and base your opinion on lies, rumours, wild assertions of others who have a financial interest in giving the brand a bad name and also logical fallacy's like a 'plead to authority'.

By all means recommend a product based on your experience, but don't knock a product based on.....

"I had one but can't remember what I didn't like about it"
"ask any clued up shop owner"
"Nobody I know fucks with them"
"They got called out for" (untrue)
"I've seen a video" (can't provide)

And then contradict yourself by saying you speak from personal experience and not hearsay.
Because your opinion is then automatically invalid and you just make yourself look like pretentious twat.
I can’t be arsed to read all that bollox. You seem a little obsessed with me. The reason I can’t be arsed to read it is because I looked for your last grow photos.
 

limonene

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0B5CE821-468F-4362-BB3B-A5F8D01F0370.png 48A78D51-2B78-499B-9F69-1C47A09C1CF8.png 2097B176-E5BA-40C3-B9E3-094D4E5FDB3D.png You were expecting 17 from 1800 watts? That’s fucking terrible for someone who has such an expert opinion lol. We got 14 from gg4 under 1 315cmh. And yes it was solistek. You’re a clown!
 

limonene

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0.26 gpw of some of the saddest looking glue I’ve seen. Most people hit 1 gpw with that cut hahaha I’m tickled here
 
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