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Rob Roy
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Influential individuals define "acceptable" as well as the constraints of nature (things which occur beyond individual people acting alone or in an aggregate of people).
Most people are born into a preexisting culture, so many simply adopt the norms of THAT culture without examining the underlying things for veracity that happen in their particular culture It's kind of funny and sad too. "Pardon me, are there any ribs left", said the cannibal?
Very often the majority DOES NOT make the rules, rulers make the rules. You follow them or you get hurt. That should change, obviously, individuals should make the rules which pertain to them, as individuals.
If a majority of people believe your head is flat, and it isn't flat, the majority would be wrong. If your head is flat, saying it isn't won't change that. Is your head flat ? Could your neighbors vote your head flat if it were not flat ?
If a majority believe 4 + 4 = 0, it's likely a failing of a government school district and of course to solve that failing, the parasites within it will need more money.
Remind me not to ask you what time it is.
I almost left you in the dark because I figured I would get this kind of a response. ("You said something is a certain way so you must support it!") No, those are just facts. Societal norms. I mean...they are not individual "norms" because that would not make any sense. 1 out of 1 is always 100% and whatever you do as an individual I giess is your own individual "norm". But you don't make the rules. No individual OUGHT to make all the rules for everyone else, yet we SHOULD have a code of principles however broad that we can agree on. Pedos bad. Rapists bad. Are we on the same page? And if so, does that make you a sheep to agree?
Now, again, I stressed it but you missed it: just because society will always make the rules (justifiably so or how could anyone ever coexist with anyone else?), that doesn't mean I agree wIth society all the time. Look where we are right now...weed was not always legal or decriminalized or acceptable in any other way. I obviously disagreed with society. I guess I am just baffled that someone would ask what to me is a very dumb question, no offense. If we are going by the common definition of words, then anything that a majority of a society accepts is "acceptable". Now, on to your lively analogy about flat heads, and could my neighbor vote my head flat...what I was talking about was not even close.
What I was talking about is if your head really WERE flat to everyone else, only you saw it as round due to an undiagnosed optical issue...you can perceive anything in any way you want and I am not saying it is "wrong" to do so. We just apparently disagree whether your sole perception of something is even enough to affect your reality when everyone else disagrees. If society agrees that I should be put to death for chewing gum while talking, in such a society my punishment would be "acceptable". That doesn't make ot morally right in MY book or by MY morals, and MY clock isn't broken; society's clock is. So maybe you should remind yourself not to take A POLL on what time it is.
And FWIW, I knew this was a loaded question, but I am not afraid of those and I don't like when people try to intimidate others who respect societal norms as some kind of lost sheep, when it is societal norms that have gotten us to this point in the first place.
Rob Roy
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It is wrong to initiate aggression against other people and their justly acquired property. It is not wrong to defend yourself against those that aggress.
I'm not a sheep, I'm a large hairy often solitary animal that roams the forest, with a bad case of flatulence. I thought you knew?
I agree with that, and I also think most of society agrees with that too. You DO have gas!
Lol jk seriously though the right to be free from agression and to defend against agressors is so primal that I am not sure hiw anyone could argue against it.
Rob Roy
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Millions of people "argue against it" when they reflexively participate in hierarchical imposed politics, which is systemically based in removal of choice, before it alleges, to "protect you, from those who would remove your choices" . Logical fail.
Yup.
"Elect me, or else my opponent will ruin your lives and take your rights away!" - every Democrat and every Republican who ever ran for office
"Everything the other party blames on us is their own doing! They take credit for our successes and pin their failures on us!"
- every partisan whether Dem or Rep
I tend to place most of the blame on our two party system. It has us all thinking there are only two ways of life or two paths forward, and only one of which is acceptable or will work...when in reality, both parties need each other to justify their own existence! Once the bogeyman is gone who will you save me from exactly? Lol
Yeah I suppose this thread was dead and I just f***** the shit out of it! Lol
DIY-HP-LED
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Good people on both sides, even the ones chanting,"Jews will not replace us", while carrying torches at night too... Does the glass need to shatter on crystal night for you to see a difference? Why do you think all the nazi's in America support the republicans and Trump?
Trump is an evil asshole, speak up and be heard, you seem confused about the nature of good and evil. The binary choice presented to the American people by their political system is a different matter, right now Trump and the GOP need to be removed from office. Only racists support Trump, there is no other reasons and no excuses for not speaking out against this stupidity and evil.
DIY-HP-LED
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Rob Roy
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Sure, Trump may be an asshole, oh shit....hey look a squirrel !!!
The problem with your retort is it doesn't refute the veracity of his claim, it affirms it.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ok wait a sec...what the hell does your Trump opposition have to do with me disliking BOTH parties? Are you trying to use logical fallicies on me or something? (Implying every "good Jew" will vote against Trump because he made a comment that could be construed as being anti-Semitic) What two sides was he referring to? The neo-Nazis and the anti-fascists? or was it the people who saw the Confederate statues as being historically important versus those who saw it as such a sad part of our history we should have erased it? I personally believe Trump was thinking like this: "Oh shit, they asked me about the protest because they want me to condemn the people who wanted the statues to be kept. If I do that, then I look like I am erasing history and they will accuse me of that instead! I better play it safe and not lump everyone on either side of the debate over the statues into one of two corners." And of course his rivals still found a way to burn him. Some of the people in Charlottesville were protesting against the following: removal of statues of historical significance, failure to remove statues of individuals with racist histories, freedom of speech allowing Nazis to demonstrate, perceived encroachment on freedom of speech, etc. And you can drop the kristallnacht reference please...a Republican would tell me all about how, since I am a Jew, I shouldn't support Democrats because the Iran deal was dangerous for Israel and Trump with this embassy and on and on. So really, you are kind of proving my point. Both sides are just alike in most every way when it comes to their insistence everyone adopt their beliefs in order to defeat the evil other guys.
I personally don't trust Trump to protect Israel, because I notice all he gives and wonder what he will ask for in return...but that doesn't mean I want to vote Democrat either. I don't vote on Israel as a primary issue, or I would be doing a disservice to America. When I vote it is on American issues and American wellbeing. I prefer getting rid of political parties and making some kind of election reform that allows us to have people run on the issues only rather than party affiliation. I also know how the news works. Fox is Republican, and CNN is Democrat, propaganda. So all that has to happen for people to be led astray is for the right or left wing media, respectively, to swear we are in danger to scare our vote into their corner. I understand why and how people wind up believeing this, because we tell ourselves only countries like China or Iran or North Korea have state media...but the truth is clear. Our freedom of the press is a farce when you consider who the sources always are: anonymous government employees. If politicians wonder how we might react to something, they tell an employee who anonymously tell the news who prints the story and they see how it trends on Twitter. If we didn't have parties, they couldn't buy insurance so to speak...by having 2 opposite "movements", each with around half the vote, they keep the people divided so we can not unite. It also serves the dual purpose of offering an easy way put if tshtf: Did a right wing revolution break out? News will try to brainwash the right back to center. And if that doesn't work, eventually the media will all praise the right or be out of business. Same applies to any potential left wing revolution.
Maybe, in America, the only Jew anyone wants here is one who agrees with them and votes how they want. Sure seems that way to me when I am being insulted with "reminders" of things -- as if since I am not a Democrat, in this case, that I must not know enough about the situation of Jews in America to make an informed decision. And Republicans have said the same thing to me, that I must not be a "real" Jew if I don't love Donald Trump...but I am an independent. I couldn't bring myself to vote for a person if all we had in common was an animal mascot and a primary color.
DIY-HP-LED
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Then at best, you don't know the difference between good and evil and are morally "confused", or you are just another sock in disguise, we have seen so many here and I believe we have seen you several times. Keep posting though, maybe I'm just paranoid... Dwayne has been kinda lonely around here lately, not too many Trumpers around these days. Most show up with the speil that there is no difference between the parties and that Biden and Trump are the same, ignore the difference in competence or morality. Electing a moron like Trump sure screwed the economy, many businesses are going under and many of them are owned by Trump supporters too.
Let here your opinion about Trump's psychological state, do you think an incompetent sociopath is a good choice for POTUS?
Do you think Trump contributed to the public health and economic disaster in America now by his criminal dereliction of duty and extreme managerial incompetence?
Do you think Donald Trump is a good leader? A fit leader? Would you vote for him?
I'm not convinced you are who you say you are, I believe you are a fraud and a sock, you sound like communist dreamer to me. Prove it by answering the questions above.
AynOd
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VILEPLUME
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Thank you for not adding the Canadians to this list.
Fogdog
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blu3bird
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We gotta get oswizzle over here
Rottedroots
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Hot damm! I've completely failed at identifying "role" models. This kind of stuff should be very accessible so you know who the cool kids are. ) I was never any good at that) Now if im given a glass of koolaid i can check to see who prescribed it before drinking.
If there's a hell that's where Trump will land and his minions don't even know it. I don't think my househole is going to get a stimulus check at all and i thought they had already run out of money for now anyway. I can't cite it I'm afraid but it's hard to believe BIG business got money before the peons. Well not that hard i guess.
Peons used to live in the most undesirable places. With Trump, peons make a big six figures and live in nice houses, condos, islands. I mean when your secretary of education is worth 1.5 billion maybe she can educate us on what good he's done.
If there's a hell that's where Trump will land and his minions don't even know it. I don't think my househole is going to get a stimulus check at all and i thought they had already run out of money for now anyway. I can't cite it I'm afraid but it's hard to believe BIG business got money before the peons. Well not that hard i guess.
Peons used to live in the most undesirable places. With Trump, peons make a big six figures and live in nice houses, condos, islands. I mean when your secretary of education is worth 1.5 billion maybe she can educate us on what good he's done.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Can someone please do my calculation