The Fundamentals of Private Grows/Caregiving

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
A lot of people are willing to pay more for the ability to go to a store front to buy their meds, in a safe controlled environment, not me but a lot of people.
 

smokajoe

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5 Patients plus yourself, 6 plants per patient with no more than 3 of those flowering (producing a usable form of marijuana). So 36 plants with no more than 18 flowering. Also, as a patient you are allowed to possess 2 ounces, if you have a caregiver the patient and caregiver can collectively posses the 2 ounces. So to put this in more plain english, if you have 5 patients and yourself, you can posses 12 ounces, but if they come and check on you, then go check on patients and find there is too much medicine between you then you or they could be in trouble, more likely the caregiver.
You are also supposed to provide services other than providing marijuana. Thats the short of it, if anyone disagrees with how i have paraphrased this please let me know, i am not always right, but i think i got this all spot on.
O yeah, and you are supposed to be non-profit as a caregiver.
hey man where exactly is this portion, I have fumbled through but must have missed this section!
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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Really not sure, have read all this crap continually as it comes out, i think it was in house bill 10-1284, but may actually be part of Amendment 20, when it didn't really matter cause you could have as many patients as you wanted.
 

SoCoMMJ

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hey man where exactly is this portion, I have fumbled through but must have missed this section!
The 5 patient restriction for caregivers is listed in HB10-1284

The 2 ounces [or 6 plants] held collectively between the caregiver and patient is listed in the constitution, Article 14 section 18 [commonly referred to as Ammendment 20]
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
We never said 2 ozs per plant, that you can only have 2 ounces "useable marijuana" at any time per patient, so if you grow a pound plant, you are going to have to harvest it carefully, i never said you had to destroy anything beyond that.
That is covered in Amendment 20, has been that way since the start.
 

smokajoe

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We never said 2 ozs per plant, that you can only have 2 ounces "useable marijuana" at any time per patient, so if you grow a pound plant, you are going to have to harvest it carefully, i never said you had to destroy anything beyond that.
That is covered in Amendment 20, has been that way since the start.
so there is a loophole like I can have all that harvested weed but harvest in a way where 2 oz is all I have?
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TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Yeah, or have the 5 patients and harvest the full 12 ozs at once, out of one plant, then next week you can do it again, gives you a little time to dig that hole in the back yard. LoL.
 

BadDog40

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so there is a loophole like I can have all that harvested weed but harvest in a way where 2 oz is all I have?
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Kids like you moving here from out of state looking for a 'loophole' is the reason we are regulated up the ass. Do everyone a favor including yourself and stay where you're at.
 

smokajoe

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Dog I'm not looking to find a loophole haha all I'm saying is of I was cultivating mmj and make a big plant then what? By loophole all I mean is ways to have rhw weed I grow beput to use and not wasted
 

SoCoMMJ

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Another option is to run excess into bubble hash. Extract counts the same weight as bud. Eventually you will run over there too.

The idea is to run a perpetual garden and don't grow more than your patients can actually use. May be hard to comprehend, but very very few patients will consume more than 1 oz a month.
You can easily get that required 5-6 ounces a month from chopping 1-2 plants a month. You don't need to run 30-36 plants unless A]you suck at growing or B] you are planning on selling into the black market.

If you are planning on the latter, then don't even bother with paperwork or asking about how to be legal. When you get raided you just make the legal caregivers look bad. The DA will be showing off his example of how caregivers are gaming the system for profit.
 

Blankfeeler

Active Member
Another option is to run excess into bubble hash. Extract counts the same weight as bud. Eventually you will run over there too.

The idea is to run a perpetual garden and don't grow more than your patients can actually use. May be hard to comprehend, but very very few patients will consume more than 1 oz a month.
You can easily get that required 5-6 ounces a month from chopping 1-2 plants a month. You don't need to run 30-36 plants unless A]you suck at growing or B] you are planning on selling into the black market.

If you are planning on the latter, then don't even bother with paperwork or asking about how to be legal. When you get raided you just make the legal caregivers look bad. The DA will be showing off his example of how caregivers are gaming the system for profit.
Very good advice!
 

smokajoe

Well-Known Member
Another option is to run excess into bubble hash. Extract counts the same weight as bud. Eventually you will run over there too.

The idea is to run a perpetual garden and don't grow more than your patients can actually use. May be hard to comprehend, but very very few patients will consume more than 1 oz a month.
You can easily get that required 5-6 ounces a month from chopping 1-2 plants a month. You don't need to run 30-36 plants unless A]you suck at growing or B] you are planning on selling into the black market.

If you are planning on the latter, then don't even bother with paperwork or asking about how to be legal. When you get raided you just make the legal caregivers look bad. The DA will be showing off his example of how caregivers are gaming the system for profit.
Ah ya I c haha no intention to resell haha like I thought I could sell to dispensary but ya makes sense on limit...
just a hypothetical question what happens if someone is your caregiver and they sell excess and get busted will patient get any probl
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
It is possible, say that you were growing too much (i know this wasn't the question, just an example), but you claim your patients need more than 3 plants, damn straight they are going to be contacted at least by a summon server to come to court, or the local LEO, to see their side. So i could see this happening if you were selling illegal too, probably nothing too detrimental, but i would be pissed if i had to go on the stand for something like that.
My one comment would be that i do not think it is wrong (or should be illegal) to sell to other legal patients, the law does though.
 

smokajoe

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thats what I was wondering too, how are the people a) selling on craigslist, and B) people actually buying is it a grey area since it calls for a donation?
 

BadDog40

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thats what I was wondering too, how are the people a) selling on craigslist, and B) people actually buying is it a grey area since it calls for a donation?

Yea you're not thinking about selling your excesses on the black market. Whatever you say. Since you don't give a fuck about breaking the law anyway why don't you grow where you're at where you can still get $300-$350 an ounce?

But since you seem to have your mind made up let me just fill you in on the reality of your plan. To grow for 5 people you're going to need at least $3 grand for your equipment to start, probably more, 5k wasnt enough for me. Then you're going to have to rent a place where either the landlord is cool with it or hope its a landlord that never comes around, not to mention how are you going to qualify for the type of place you need to grow working at McDonalds? Assuming you get past that how do you plan on getting your patients? You won't. Nobody is going to make you their caregiver, you have nothing to supply them with for at least 3 months. So you decide to buy some crap off craigslist thinking you'll be able to supply them with that. Wrong. 90% of the shit on craigslist is crap that people cant get rid of to anyone else, and even if you do get lucky patients are not going to be happy unless you actively have at least 4 or 5 strains at any given time. So unless you have 5 good friends here you'll be illegal until the very least your first harvest. So you say fuck it anyway, come out here with at least $15 grand to pay for everything until your first harvest and stay illegal for a while and start your grow. Hopefully those clones you bought off craigslist doesnt have mites or pm on them (most do) cause that will set you back another couple of months, and hopefully you avoid the other dozen things that can go wrong during a grow and hopefully if they do you've experienced it before so you can react fast enough without losing your crop. So everything goes well and its harvest time, now what? How do you get rid of it? The shit is everywhere and you're competing with professional growers that have been doing this for years. In desperation you put an ad on craigslist. You think 'damn this shit would go for $350 oz back home, I'll sell it in a day for $225!' Wrong. You'll eventually lower your price to $150-$175 then in the middle of that bam, they just started arresting people selling on craigslist. Hopefully you had another $10 grand stashed for an Attorney. Sound like fun to you?
 

smokajoe

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Dog, why the hell you always treating me like shit? Im asking about all this cuz everything is so broad.......Even people here are talking about buying off craigslist. Haha you need to chill man, I aint moving to Denver anytime soon, so lol chill man, and hell no I dont have any money to open a dispensery, err MMC, haha I started looking into Colorado cuz I heard there was money to be made selling MMJ, but as everyone has said that ship sailed long ago! So dude chill! :)
 
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