The BEST Hash Ever

Finshaggy

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Here's what we've got so far. I am going to do a ceremony of releasing balloons to honor my dead brother, then I will post step 7.

This method may take a few days to post in its entirety, as I am going to go deeper than just procedure, so that the information can be educational to ANYONE that comes across it. I will make a video soon, I am currently in the process of moving. I may end up covering a few different methods through videos.

The main method that will be discussed here is "Dr. Atomic's marijuana Multiplier". I want to remind everyone that I am not advocating that anyone who has never handled at least home depot grade chemicals before, if you do not know what you are looking at when you go to home depot, it is not time to try this yet. And further, I suggest taking some form of chemistry class beyond highschool before doing this.


This method was produced and advertised for turning trim or shit weed, into good quality or even "Best" quality hash.


1. Collect Stems, Trim, Shake and Hash remnants in a glass jar. It is best to keep hash separate to protect your grinder during step 2. But the hash will be made even better.
2. Get a coffee grinder, and when you have an oz or more in your jar, grind it up and put it back. Then redo step 1 and 2, or move on to step 3.


3. Using a coffee filter/cheese cloth/etc and a solvent such as (pure) alcohol/acetone/naphtha/etc and another glass jar, extract the THC and other Cannabinoids from the plant material. If you don't know what this means, it's not time for you to do this yet. Just save more stuff, and maybe try a simple extraction that doesn't involve the extra steps that this thread will present.


If you can handle this, create a reflux machine. A reflux machine is somewhat like a still, but different. It will involve a pot of boiling water, with a smaller pot inside, and a rope under the pot inside to create about an inch of space between the two pots. The smaller pot should have a polyethylene trash bag which will be safe to use with solvents. In the trash bag should be an even smaller pot (stainless steel) should contain the solvent with the marijuana. This all should be covered with a upside down pot lid that is cooled by bags of ice. The solvent will boil in the inner inner pot, and go to the trash bag. In the inner inner pot, you will be left with empty plant material. DO NOT leave this unwatched, and it is heavily suggested that you use a hot plate that has no open electric sources. The solvents used CAN and WILL catch fire.


You don't want the solvents to extract chems from the bag, and you want to keep what is in the bag if I am not mistaken. So it would be best to get the right bags, unless you want to end up with some "Breaking Bad" type problems i.e. Body in the Bathtub.


Oops, I am mistaken. You will be keeping the marijuana AND THE SOLVENT that is left in the stainless steel jar. But you STILL want to get the right bags, so that you aren't smoking plastic.


From here, you dump the solvent and grinded bud back into the glass jar, and do what was said to do in step 3. (I only said the steps out of order because if step 3 makes no sense, then the reflux will make no sense. And if the reflux makes no sense, you will get a lower quality product, but you can still continue without creating the machine, and just doing a simple extraction. Again, the only factor that will change here is quality.


Use a strainer to hold the plant material, filter material (cheese cloth, etc) under than, a Collander to hold it all. The solvent will evaporate and fall back through the plant material so it can extract more cannabinoids. Eventually you will be left with less solvent and a bunch of cannabinoids.


STEP 4. Get a small cake pan that is bigger than the stainless steel pot, but that can fit in the colander. If you want, you can keep the marijuana mash and make more hash still, so just leave it to dry and put it in the freezer. Cake pan goes in Colander, Colander goes on top of stainless steel pot. This time when you use the reflux machine, the solvent will evaporate OUT of the stainless steel pot and INTO the cake pan. This is another part you can skip, but you will risk quality.


Step 5.


This is a step to make sure your hash is completely clean of solvents and water. After this step you would have some fairly awesome hash (if you have gone through all the other steps) and could stop and smoke here if you wanted... But for those who want "The Best" hash, do step 5, then continue on.


Get a pot that is bigger than the stainless steel one, and fill it with cooking oil. Put the hash in the stainless steel pot, and the stainless steel pot in the oil. Use a candy thermometer and wait for the oil to get to 220 F or 104 C. Hold a small mirror over the stainless steel pot. When the mirror no longer fogs up, you have removed all extra solvents and water from your hash.


Step 6.


Now... This is the FIRST step that is really doing more than most average extraction methods (other than multiple purity runs). But we still aren't done after this.


What you need for this is Petroleum Ether, and preferably an ice bath to keep the glass in the whole time.


Dissolve the hash in 5x its weight in petroleum ether, this can be measured by weighing your hash, then "Tare"ing your scale with a glass on it, and weighing out 5x the weight in Petroleum Ether.


You are going to want to use a bottle that has a screw top (mason jar, etc)


Add the same volume of water as Petroleum Ether (Use the same glass and scale, or even draw a line on the outside of the glass when you weigh the Ether)


Measure HALF of the water and add that much more Petroleum Ether. (This is what the book says, but I think it is a typo and I will test it myself. I believe this part of the step should be alcohol. So that there is one layer of water, one layer of ether, and one layer of alcohol. As the book says there will be 3 layers)


A. Screw the cap on, flip the jar upside down for a moment, then immediately return it upright.
B. Wait for the liquid to flow down the side of the jar for a moment, then open the cap to relieve pressure.
C. Then recap.


Repeat A, B and C 25x
 

qwizoking

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Sooo can you just write the steps so we don't have to read pages of shit..
For example..freeze mj and iso till temp stabilizes, wash 30 seconds or less to minimize nasties. Filter. Evap thin film..redissolve in etoh 5:1 ratio or till fluid, freeze till stabilized. Filter precipitate. Evap thin film at 110 or whatever

I don't have the attention span to read all that shit

What I gather so far is grind, soak in acetone? Then soak in ether? Idk man
 

qwizoking

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Also you keep saying you haven't actually tried this method..why are you trying to teach it?

Anyway I'm honestly trying to be fair and unbiased as I've never actually seen you in action..just heard rumors you could say
 

Finshaggy

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Sooo can you just write the steps so we don't have to read pages of shit..
For example..freeze mj and iso till temp stabilizes, wash 30 seconds or less to minimize nasties. Filter. Evap thin film..redissolve in etoh 5:1 ratio or till fluid, freeze till stabilized. Filter precipitate. Evap thin film at 110 or whatever

I don't have the attention span to read all that shit

What I gather so far is grind, soak in acetone? Then soak in ether? Idk man
I'll do a summarization at the end. I would honestly rather it be harder for a kid to stumble into this information than it is to stumble into normal, safer hash making methods that have nothing to do with chemical knowledge.
 

Finshaggy

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Also you keep saying you haven't actually tried this method..why are you trying to teach it?

Anyway I'm honestly trying to be fair and unbiased as I've never actually seen you in action..just heard rumors you could say
This is a well tested method that was semi-widespread in the 70s, but was never USED widespread. So I have the information, but I personally can't do it till I get money for the equipment. But it will work, I am getting the information straight from the book that people used in the 70s, and it is full of warnings and other info that I am applying to the procedure instead of just spouting as warnings.
 

Singlemalt

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The guy got a hold of an organic chem lab manual and is pasting the methods of extraction chapters. You need a lab, fume hoods and real glassware, not kitchen items....no flames whatsoever as this can be a hell of a fuel-air bomb
 

Twitch

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yes this thread is going to be epic....
it almost as if him and oilmakr know each other, i did not watch his you tube videos but from what you described is how i see oilmakr in my head
 

bluntmassa1

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This hash is better than that. Did you read step 6? We aren't just removing plant material, we are removing resins so that we have nearly pure cannabinoids.
well the terpines are not exactly cannabinoids I will agree its probably more potent but better then dry sieve I highly doubt I really like the taste of dry sieve best I can't see old fashion hash oil tasting better I've made BHO but it has nothing on dry sieve for flavor.
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
I really think Acetone and Alcohol are about as "Holy Grail" as we need, as far as simple extraction goes.
I don't know why im replying FadeDawg has said it many times, Acetone is a known mutagen and teratogen. What God of yours would make the road to him fraught with ninja turtle mutations. It's pretty narcissistic to think you can spout theory than have the world vet your idea's one after the other with no proof reading of your own. I'm all for inspiring ideas, I live for that, but I don't expect to fly to the sun on a rocket ship made of wax, the way your talking it's like your saying nobody has flown to the sun on a wax ship so your all idiots for saying I can't. You can use acetone no doubt, like I can eat gmo foods all day and say im getting nutrition. But when you start soapboxing things like holy grail, I see you've never read a material data safety sheet. Is your acetone pure btw? or from hardware store?
 

nme

Member
I use to smoke this in the 80's. The acetone is too strong of a solvent in my opinion, stripping the plant material of much more than what I want into the extract. I always felt like I was huffing paint after a joint laced with this hash oil. Just my experience though....
 

Finshaggy

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The guy got a hold of an organic chem lab manual and is pasting the methods of extraction chapters. You need a lab, fume hoods and real glassware, not kitchen items....no flames whatsoever as this can be a hell of a fuel-air bomb
You people are ridiculous. NO. Read the first post. This is DR. ATOMIC'S MARIJUANA MULTIPLIER. A method to be used AT HOME, that was widespread in the 70s.

And I already warned people about flames.
 

Finshaggy

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well the terpines are not exactly cannabinoids I will agree its probably more potent but better then dry sieve I highly doubt I really like the taste of dry sieve best I can't see old fashion hash oil tasting better I've made BHO but it has nothing on dry sieve for flavor.
See, those are just "hash". I am taking it a few steps further. We will turn ALL cannabinoids (CBD, etc) into Delta-9-THC. So whatever kind of hash you like best, this method makes it even better.
 

Twitch

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well the terpines are not exactly cannabinoids I will agree its probably more potent but better then dry sieve I highly doubt I really like the taste of dry sieve best I can't see old fashion hash oil tasting better I've made BHO but it has nothing on dry sieve for flavor.
then you made your bho wrong....

sorry your dry sieve cant touch the bho put out by the Contributors in this section (yall will now be call the contributors guzias, VP, fade, quizo doesnt make bho but we count him too, War, saybian, MIG, kase) there are more people i am missing i am sure sorry.
on all grading points:
flavor
quality
quantity

dont get my wrong i have seen some nice dry sieve stuff
 

Finshaggy

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I use to smoke this in the 80's. The acetone is too strong of a solvent in my opinion, stripping the plant material of much more than what I want into the extract. I always felt like I was huffing paint after a joint laced with this hash oil. Just my experience though....
This is NOT Rick Simpson Oil. ALL SOLVENTS will be removed AS WELL AS ALL RESINS.
 

Twitch

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See, those are just "hash". I am taking it a few steps further. We will turn ALL cannabinoids (CBD, etc) into Delta-9-THC. So whatever kind of hash you like best, this method makes it even better.
no your taking it a few steps further into bullshit, have you started carrying a tree or perhaps a small shrubbery....
 

Finshaggy

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Step 7.

If all you have a glass bong (and not money), and a funnel that will not release any chems into the solvent. Then at the end of step 6, pour the mixture into your bong. But pour like beer, so that you do not create bubbles. Bubbles will capture and trap the Cannabinoids in a place you can not retrieve them.

Let the 3 layers settle out with your bong sitting next to the sink, then connect a rubber tube to your down stem, and blow the 2 bottom layers into the sink. If you want to try to keep as much Cannabinoids as possible, then make sure you keep a TINY bit of the middle layer as a buffer. But if you are willing to throw away a small amount of your product in exchange for purity, then blow out the entire middle layer, which will most likely make you blow out a little tiny bit of the top layer.

If you do NOT have a bong and funnel that is made of the correct material, the you will need to get 2 glass jugs, 2 pieces of rubber tubing. 2 rubber stoppers for the top of the glass jars, each stopper needs to have 2 holes that fit the rubber tubing. 4 glass tubes (1 long, 3 short) that fit in the holes on the stoppers, and the rubber tubes fit on them.

The jars are basically set up like a still (but with no heat). One jar will contain the extract, and will have a glass tube working like a straw leading up to the rubber tube. Then the rubber tube will lead to a short glass tube in the second jar. The second jar will have a glass tube sticking out as an air hole, and the first jar will have a glass tube connected to a rubber tube for you to blow in.

You want to make sure that the long glass tube stop right before the middle layer, so that it can reach the entire top layer, but not suck up the middle layer.

When you blow in the tube on jar 1, the extract will be forced up the long glass tube, and into the second jar.

Once finished, add the same amount as Ether as you used to dissolve the hash the first time. But add it to the dirty stuff left in the first jar or bong. Then repeat the steps a few times, so that you have AS MANY cannabinoids out of the 3 layers as possible
 

nme

Member
I didn't say it was RSO, I've never tried his method of extraction since it was popularized after BHO was introduced to me.
 

Twitch

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i did i said it sounds like so RSO bullshit and someone else did to and so far i think we are the closest yet to guess the end result to the holy grail of extracts
 

nme

Member
My last post was directed to the OP not you twitch.
The shit we had back in the 80's was a little bit different than RSO from what I've read.
 
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