*-*The 8th Official Party Cup Grow Competition Registration Thread*-*

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IMIUBU

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It's that time everyone, The 8th official party cup grow competition registration starts now. All you have to do to enter is comment here that you want in and I will enter you. It's that easy!

Rules from the 6th and 7th cup comps stand!
This will be my second time hosting this wonderful competition so we'll get right into it!
Here is a basic outline of the rules for this competition.

* 1st post or germination post MUST contain
the following: strain name, nutrients used,
Light source used, media used and
Germination date. (Day of sprout).
*
Germ date and strain name must be written
on the cup by first post.
* Party cups(16oz 473 ml) only, no other sizes and
no transplanting or "swapping" permitted.
* Roots must be confined inside the cup at all times and any
roots growing outside the cup will result in
automatic DQ. Trim back any stragglers. Contestants
will be subject to root checks in between weekly
postings if requested by me.
* Any indoor light source allowed, no changing light
sources one started (with the exception of a burnt out
bulb). No Sunlight.
*
Participants, registrants, host, and sponsors may vote
on winner(s). Start from seed only. No Clones. No
Auto flowers.
12 week sativas highly discouraged, we
don't want to wait for these to finish and may ask you to resign. 12/12, 13/11, 11/13
the entire time, No Veg time
*
Start a maximum of 5 seeds total, keep only 1 female
plant for entry once sex has shown for all 5.
* Germination window begins 12:01 am AKST (Alaska standard time) 2/15/16 and ends 2/29/16 11:59 pm AKST (yes on the "leap day")
No exceptions or stragglers, PERIOD!
*
Weekly updates mandatory with picture(s).or you're Dq'd
---CONTINUAL TARDY UPDATES MAY ALSO BE SUBJECT TO DQ!---

Hydro, DWC, automated watering, soma style and any other non-standard, non-dirt
type growers:
These methods are accepted as long as the roots are in the confines of the cup.
Again root checks may be requested by me at any time. No cheating will be tolerated
period! Like last comp any suspected cheaters will be held against a community tribunal
For judgment. As far as the difficulties of finding a 16 oz cup... all I can say is start looking now!
I know this has been a sticking point but we've had 7 comps with this size cup and we've always
gotten through it.
Try the children's birthday party section at your local retailer if all else fails!


***REGISTRATION ENDS FEBRUARY 14TH 11:59 PM AKST!!!!****

GOOD LUCK!

MOST IMPORTANTLY:
HAVE FUN AND LEARN SOMETHING NEW! :bigjoint:
Are you going to put a time limit on this one. Pleeeeeeeeease
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
So bottom line, ZERO mention of prizes,
if someone was willing to give the winner(s) something, RIU advertiser or not, there can be no mention of it on RIU?
@potroast told me that I couldn't do it because the companies offering things weren't paid advertisers, I was under the impression that, that was the reason
@GorillaSeedBank started to actually get ad slots, same as @Midweek Song .... These companies tried to pay for advertising, couldn't, still wanted to be involved in the community, and offered a few things... There was also some kind of concern from @potroast about the company Inda-Gro spamming the forum, to which I can only reason that for some reason he doesn't like IG... I have never once seen "spam" (or any other post) from Inda gro on RIU....

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Long and short, Can we continue if paid advertisers offer their products and we communicate about it through another outlet?
Or is this something that the admins want ended?
Can we speak to the site owner about it? is there a phone number I can call? I really want this to continue, with some sort of prize support.... These guys (and gals) deserve some outside recognition
also there is a give-away section on the main page, to which I feel like this comp. had direct involvement in creating.... Why can things be given away there but not here?
potroast and myself are not the website owner. we just are told what the rules are for the website by the owner, and we enforce them.

We have been told users cannot give away prizes, gift prizes, or do any sales, gifting , trades, hooks ups, of anything marijuana related or not marijuana related on our website.
he the owner has told us this is due to liability issues because our website is world wide and that our lawyers say it can get our website shut down

additionally, it gets a little interesting because users may feel this contest is something rollitup the actual website endorses and they feel comfortable giving you their full names and address through our internal system, when you guys are just users and users may be misinformed about this, even though you are apart of Inda Gro, they arent an advertiser here so we consider you a user/member of rollitup.

Look im sure you are a lovely person in real life, you dont seem like a bad guy, but if (IF) something ever went wrong and the user whos address /security was violated for some whatever reason
who is that user going to fault? their going to fault US rollitup because they assumed this contest was hosted by rollitup and endorsed by rollitup when it isnt.
You have no idea how many times users break the no trading/selling rule here and i have to deal with the outcome because they were ripped off hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars and they blame us (rollitup) for allowing it to happen.

Ultimately its just really really not safe for people to be giving out their full name and address through out internal system


the paid advertisers can do give aways here i assume (and i say i assume because im not the one who writes up advertiser contracts) because they are legitimate companies, their liabilities fall under their legal businesses and what they have their own company lawyers. They also do their actual giving away off the website.
Users like yourself are just that a user or member of the forum so the liability falls back on us rollitup.


what conversations you had with potroast are what youve had with potroast, hes my higher up boss. so what hes told you is what is word, hes my superior i joined the mod team back in the day potroast was the one who modded me, While yes i gained administration along with potroast hes still technically my superior. Although we work closely together
i was not informed of your prior conversations with him, so apologies for being "out of the loop" or unaware of what you two spoke of.

As for getting ahold of the owner himself, you are absolutely welcome to reach out to him to see if you can get rollitup to endorse this contest,
i think ultimately there are a few things that would change should you get permission from the owner himself.


1. rollitup would have to be the ones who put on the actual contest
2. it would be something that our lawyers would have to work on
3. it would not be instant and a fast it would be something that is a work in progress

you can contact the owner via conversation under the username Admin , Im sorry rollitup doesnt have an actual office, all our staff work from home, so we dont have a business phone number you can call.

hes the one who owns the website, so i have to enforce the rules hes given me to follow. or im ultimately a useless twat in my job here.

if you want to continue with your contest, i have no problem under the condition that you cant dish out prizes, it can only be bragging rights only. again this is because this is what ive been told is allowed by the owner, from our lawyers.

I hope this sheds some light on the issue, i quoted both your posts so you know i read them both.

I removed your photos because private conversations are just that private (please do not get upset), while im sure potroast has no shame in what he told you, its just rules
i am in no way trying to "hush" up anything thats been said i think we've well established what were speaking about here :)

Ultimately you kinda have to get that both potroast and myself are employees of the Owner of the website, we just enforce his rules, and there are things we cannot change about his website because well he owns it not us
 
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snowboarder396

Well-Known Member
potroast and myself are not the website owner. we just are told what the rules are for the website by the owner, and we enforce them.

We have been told users cannot give away prizes, gift prizes, or do any sales, gifting , trades, hooks ups, of anything marijuana related or not marijuana related on our website.
he the owner has told us this is due to liability issues because our website is world wide and that our lawyers say it can get our website shut down

additionally, it gets a little interesting because users may feel this contest is something rollitup the actual website endorses and they feel comfortable giving you their full names and address through our internal system, when you guys are just users and users may be misinformed about this, even though you are apart of Inda Gro, they arent an advertiser here so we consider you a user/member of rollitup.

Look im sure you are a lovely person in real life, you dont seem like a bad guy, but if (IF) something ever went wrong and the user whos address /security was violated for some whatever reason
who is that user going to fault? their going to fault US rollitup because they assumed this contest was hosted by rollitup and endorsed by rollitup when it isnt.
You have no idea how many times users break the no trading/selling rule here and i have to deal with the outcome because they were ripped off hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars and they blame us (rollitup) for allowing it to happen.

Ultimately its just really really not safe for people to be giving out their full name and address through out internal system


the paid advertisers can do give aways here i assume (and i say i assume because im not the one who writes up advertiser contracts) because they are legitimate companies, their liabilities fall under their legal businesses and what they have their own company lawyers. They also do their actual giving away off the website.
Users like yourself are just that a user or member of the forum so the liability falls back on us rollitup.


what conversations you had with potroast are what youve had with potroast, hes my higher up boss. so what hes told you is what is word, hes my superior i joined the mod team back in the day potroast was the one who modded me, While yes i gained administration along with potroast hes still technically my superior. Although we work closely together
i was not informed of your prior conversations with him, so apologies for being "out of the loop" or unaware of what you two spoke of.

As for getting ahold of the owner himself, you are absolutely welcome to reach out to him to see if you can get rollitup to endorse this contest,
i think ultimately there are a few things that would change should you get permission from the owner himself.


1. rollitup would have to be the ones who put on the actual contest
2. it would be something that our lawyers would have to work on
3. it would not be instant and a fast it would be something that is a work in progress

you can contact the owner via conversation under the username Admin , Im sorry rollitup doesnt have an actual office, all our staff work from home, so we dont have a business phone number you can call.

hes the one who owns the website, so i have to enforce the rules hes given me to follow. or im ultimately a useless twat in my job here.

if you want to continue with your contest, i have no problem under the condition that you cant dish out prizes, it can only be bragging rights only. again this is because this is what ive been told is allowed by the owner, from our lawyers.

I hope this sheds some light on the issue, i quoted both your posts so you know i read them both.

I removed your photos because private conversations are just that private (please do not get upset), while im sure potroast has no shame in what he told you, its just rules
i am in no way trying to "hush" up anything thats been said i think we've well established what were speaking about here :)

Ultimately you kinda have to get that both potroast and myself are employees of the Owner of the website, we just enforce his rules, and there are things we cannot change about his website because well he owns it not us
I was just curious if i read this right, above you mentioned users meaning us, the members of rolitup as individuals not companies cannot give away gifts, prizes, etc.

But you also state that you assume its ok for paid advertisers to? If it has been paid advertisers being the ones offering the prizes then wouldn't that mean it should or shouldnt have been a problem?

And with the whole internal messaging thing regarding names and address, would it solve the problem/issue if the winning individuals contacted the company/advertising company from on here that has sponsored prizes for winners, were contacted through the companies (sponsor ) website, since then that kind of information would be going through an actual legal company.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
I was just curious if i read this right, above you mentioned users meaning us, the members of rolitup as individuals not companies cannot give away gifts, prizes, etc.

But you also state that you assume its ok for paid advertisers to? If it has been paid advertisers being the ones offering the prizes then wouldn't that mean it should or shouldnt have been a problem?

And with the whole internal messaging thing regarding names and address, would it solve the problem/issue if the winning individuals contacted the company/advertising company from on here that has sponsored prizes for winners, were contacted through the companies (sponsor ) website, since then that kind of information would be going through an actual legal company.
you hit the nail on the head when we say users meaning you guys /members cannot give out prizes ,
i stated that our advertisers can do give aways here (in the "in it to win it" subforum) because i assume that the liability for any problems falls on them as a company and that both rollitups company lawyers and the advertising companies lawyers have worked together a contract ...not that i assume they can do this particular competition.
(sorry if i made that unclear )


heres the problem if its a paid advertiser, i cant give the go ahead on that , neither can potroast , and neither can the users who put on this competition

the owner and the advertising company who advertises with rollitup would have to work out something together
we the users, cannot request the paid advertisers of rollitup to do this competition WITHOUT consent of the owner

the advertising companies have contracts with rollitup as businesses, its a business contract, whats in those contracts i have no clue, because as i said i didnt write them.
because i have no clue, im not going to okay or give the go ahead because i could be breaking rollitups contract (because technically im an employee) and than that would be a breech of contract and than i would be in big big trouble.

so theres much more to this than saying , hey whats gorillaseedbank come do this competition
its gotta have the owner himself involved to talk it over with the paid advertisers and than everyone gets their lawyers working together to make sure everything is all legal and reputable.

does that make sense?... its not just an easy go ahead flip of a switch kinda deal

feel free to respond back if you need any clarification
 

snowboarder396

Well-Known Member
@sunni , I gotcha. Thanks for responding and the clarification. I hope that something could be worked out between the owner and sponsors/advertisors for future competitions. It would be nice having that setup and so that there wouldn't be any issues to worry about. This competition has been great over the years.

Prizes or not im still in.
 

Alienwidow

Well-Known Member
Sounds like if the current riu advertizers want in bad theyll have to press the case to the owner. Since they know the contracts and make the deals.





.....so your sayin theres a chance!:clap: :lol:
 

mc130p

Well-Known Member
.....so your sayin theres a chance!:clap: :lol:
yeah, even if this one gets crapped on a bit, maybe things can be hashed out by the ninth!

Why u muthafuckers want prizes so bad?
I never competed for the prizes. I guess it's actually RIU's garden, since their votes gave me the plants I get today :) It's cool to win something...I never win shit in 'real' life, hah.
 

littlejacob

Well-Known Member
Bonjour
NO PRIZES!!! WTF!??
I enter this contest because I want to win the nice house or the lamborghini...even a little trip on an island if I am only #17...lol!
Who need prizes??? (Winners!?)
And still no party cup 16oz for me...I only found 18oz...we need big glass to drink wine apparently...if I only can source 18oz I will do it with it but out of this contest or I will order some on the net!?
CU
 

PicklesRus

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Bonjour
NO PRIZES!!! WTF!??
I enter this contest because I want to win the nice house or the lamborghini...even a little trip on an island if I am only #17...lol!
Who need prizes??? (Winners!?)
And still no party cup 16oz for me...I only found 18oz...we need big glass to drink wine apparently...if I only can source 18oz I will do it with it but out of this contest or I will order some on the net!?
CU
dude why don't you cut the 18oz cup to be 16oz

You know how to trim don't you? Or will this be your first time
 

FranJan

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What happens if we put sponsors logos on our cups and/or in our photos like product placement in TV or movies? I'd like a Green Gator logo on my cup :). What's RIU going to do then? And we could just use an off-site PM to talk about things that RIU doesn't want us to talk about. Or just move the whole damn thing to Reddit and not worry about the BS.
 
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