Bugeye
Well-Known Member
So the headline makes it sound like a 2014 was definitely the hottest year ever. NOAA gave it a 48% chance of being hottest ever, NASA gave it a 38% chance. Hardly definitive! Better than 50% chance it was NOT the hottest year ever according to NOAA and NASA!You're implying climate scientists are stealing taxpayers money
"What is their motive?" - Protection of the environment
What's the motive of the elected officials who vote against climate change legislation that you say you're "concerned with"?
Let's investigate...
"Senators Who Rejected Human-Caused Climate Change Received 7 Times as Much Money from Oil and Gas Interests
December 2, 2015 -- On January 21, 2015, the Senate voted on a number of amendments to S. 1, the Keystone XL Pipeline Approval Act. While construction of the Keystone XL pipeline was rejected last month, several amendments to S. 1 address opinions about climate change more generally. One such amendment, S. Amdt. 58, expresses the sense of Congress that “human activity significantly contributes to climate change.” The amendment, which required a two-thirds majority to pass, failed by a vote of 50-49.
Senators voting ‘NO’ on the amendment received, on average, 7.1 times as much money ($259,314) from oil and gas interests compared to those voting ‘YES’ ($36,759) between April 1, 2009 and March 31, 2015.
Twelve senators received more than $300,000 from oil and gas interests between April 1, 2009 and March 31, 2015. All voted 'NO' on the amendment."
http://maplight.org/content/senators-who-rejected-human-caused-climate-change-received-7-times-as-much-money-from-oil-an
"… 68 percent of the Republican leadership in both House and Senate deny human-caused climate change. On the committee level, 13 out of 21 Republican members of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, or 62 percent, reject the science behind human-caused global warming, joined by 67 percent, or 21 out of 31 Republican members, of the House Energy and Commerce Committee … In addition to Inhofe, 10 out of 11, or 91 percent, of Republicans on EPW have said climate change is not happening or that humans do not cause it."
http://grist.org/politics/72-percent-of-gop-senators-deny-climate-change/
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Yeah, you are. That's ^^^ you jumping to conclusions. I quoted the article you cited that said "it appears", which is one single paper that would seem to directly contradict the scientific consensus, which is made up of thousands of peer reviewed papers
The picture appears to be very clear; the science is sound and political interests are clouding all reason from "skeptics". Have you looked into the financial incentives these elected officials have received? Does it appear to you to be a legitimate inquiry into the science of climate change or rather, does it appear to you to look like a group of sheister fucks in government have been bought off by the fossil fuel industry?
Yeah, I would agree with that, but claiming "It hasn't warmed in 18 years." isn't a debate. Objective, scientifically verifiable facts are not up for debate. 2014 was the hottest year and 2000-2010 was the hottest decade we have on record. If it hasn't warmed in 18 years, how could that be possible?;
https://www.nasa.gov/press/2015/january/nasa-determines-2014-warmest-year-in-modern-record
Ha ha, just splitting hairs to illustrate how headlines often bend the truth a bit. 2014 was hot for a non-El Nino year, I agree.
link: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/briefings/201501.pdf