superthrive clones
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whitefrost
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few drops will serve you well eventhough its not"food" you can over do it i use 1/4 tsp for 15 gal so you can do the math. does work great for clones
Pipe Dream
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the first grow video i ever watched used superthrive so i just always used it cant really say if it helps but i dont think it hurts
Shackleford.R
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CLOSETGROWTH
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I t works great at 1 drop per gallon in veg, But DO NOT add any ST in flowering. It prolongs flowering, and or inhibits bud production.
Shackleford.R
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eek!! i used it in my veg fertilizer mix and added it to my bloom mix . . .
my buds are forming and developing quite nicely presently.
have you tested this yourself or is this word of mouth?
Shack
Shackleford.R
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general consensus i'm getting from some reading is superthrive will work, but not work as well as not using it. 
apparently its high in nitrogen, which you just don't need during flower. hm. interesting, had no idea!!
oh and to answer the OP question, i soak mine in superthrive and at the first sign of yellowing during the clone process i use a drop in the water i use. have had 100% success rate since i started cloning. always used superthrive, strong recommendation from me for use in cloning.
Shack
apparently its high in nitrogen, which you just don't need during flower. hm. interesting, had no idea!!oh and to answer the OP question, i soak mine in superthrive and at the first sign of yellowing during the clone process i use a drop in the water i use. have had 100% success rate since i started cloning. always used superthrive, strong recommendation from me for use in cloning.
Shack
captain insaneo
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Think of superthrive as a happy meal, it quiets the kids and calms them the hell down but you dont want it to be a major source of food...
I think that analogy works
It is great stuff for giving you plant extra hormones, that will keep the stress hormones in check.
and that stuff smells wretched, like someone ate a bottle of costco vitamins and pissed into a jar.
I think that analogy works
It is great stuff for giving you plant extra hormones, that will keep the stress hormones in check.
and that stuff smells wretched, like someone ate a bottle of costco vitamins and pissed into a jar.
doogleef
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Clones only, and even then there have been many studies that show limited to no benefit from B1 in propagation. It's one of those old marketing fables that never really died. Butric acid is the best I've found for helping root and Butirc doesn't make it faster, its just more profuse when it does finally drop tap.
Uncle Ben
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eek!! i used it in my veg fertilizer mix and added it to my bloom mix . . .
my buds are forming and developing quite nicely presently.
have you tested this yourself or is this word of mouth?
Shack
It's word of mouth. It contains indolebutryic acid (sp) and Vitamin B1 which induces root cell division and elongation, IF, it's not used in excess. It will actually work against you if excessive according to a scientific study I read. According to the label, it helped win World Wars, so it's got to be good, depending on what side you're on.
If you want a good rooting compound, then choose a product that contains a synthetic auxin (such as IBA) and a fungicide, like Rootone-F.
doc111
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What about if you are using a soil with a mychoryzal innoculant? Will the fungicide have an adverse effect?It's word of mouth. It contains indolebutryic acid (sp) and Vitamin B1 which induces root cell division and elongation, IF, it's not used in excess. It will actually work against you if excessive according to a scientific study I read. According to the label, it helped win World Wars, so it's got to be good, depending on what side you're on.
If you want a good rooting compound, then choose a product that contains a synthetic auxin (such as IBA) and a fungicide, like Rootone-F.
Uncle Ben
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What about if you are using a soil with a mychoryzal innoculant? Will the fungicide have an adverse effect?
You're treating the cutting, not the potting mix. BTW, what makes you think that innoculant is working in your favor? Ever think that by the time it comes out of dormancy and gets to work that you've done harvested your plant?
doc111
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I've heard that it can take a while for mychoryzae to work. I've also heard that there are different types that work much quicker. Why does FF and some other companies add it to some of their soils? Seems like they would know this and not bother putting it into the soil.
Pipe Dream
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what video?
Shack
I think it was called the closet cultivator?
The guys name was Hans. It was on VHS lol. (only like 10 years ago...time flies)
He basically just had a tray with a bubbler and water and added a small capful to it.
I think its around here somewhere ill try to find it.
One thing I found odd about this video was that for clones he recommended adding water to the tray instead of a humididome. I was really good at having soggy moldy peat cups.
Uncle Ben
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I've heard that it can take a while for mychoryzae to work. I've also heard that there are different types that work much quicker. Why does FF and some other companies add it to some of their soils?
It's a marketing draw, they're only in this for the money. You really don't think they give a hoot about your garden, do you? For starts, you have no idea if they're putting ANYTHING in their soil that they say they do. This industry is poorly regulated, if at all.
doc111
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Good point, although I get pretty good results with FF soils. I've tried several others and I've gotten nowhere near the results that I've gotten with FF. They are definitely putting something in them. When I first bought Happy frog I had no idea what humic acid or mychoryzae were. They may be in it for the $$ but they don't want growers getting poor results and then steering clear of their products.
Uncle Ben
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Good point, although I get pretty good results with FF soils. I've tried several others and I've gotten nowhere near the results that I've gotten with FF. They are definitely putting something in them. When I first bought Happy frog I had no idea what humic acid or mychoryzae were. They may be in it for the $$ but they don't want growers getting poor results and then steering clear of their products.
True, but their products are also overpriced. BTW, you have all the humic/fulvic acids you could hope for in peat moss.
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