Still having some problems with the dinafem cheese!

bezalom said:

looks perfectly natural. It's exactly what is supposed to happen at late flower. If one harvests and the leaves ain't almost all gone and yellowed then too much nitrogen which screws up the taste. The plant is using the leaves to make the buds....the leaves are the storehouse! Only an idiot would feed 3 weeks to a month prior to harvest or/and after flush. You like the taste of nitrates? see this Maui at 4 1/2 weeks in flower....see bottom leaves turning. I expect all leaves to turn and nearly drop off by finish like these other pics.

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Lol! Look at your shit and question your tactics, lol.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Lol! Look at your shit and question your tactics, lol.

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? WTF now you! What are you talking about. That Maui is killer at 4 1/2 weeks of flower. Stand about 3 feet tall with cropped twice for 4 colas plus laterals.

bezalom said:

You don't make any sense dude! Here are some pics of my yellowing of some White Widow several weeks before harvest (first one close up of kush from pics above)

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That looks like garbage. I typically don't talk down to fellow growers but you're too much.

Take that "organic burnt to a crisp garbage out of here. I guarantee that shit wouldn't get me high. Maybe that's why you're so mad. Bunk ass weed bro, I feel sorry for you.

bezalom said:

? WTF now you! What are you talking about. That Maui is killer at 4 1/2 weeks of flower. Stand about 3 feet tall with cropped twice for 4 colas plus laterals.

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That's bunk bro. Sorry

thenotsoesoteric said:

That's bunk bro. Sorry

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lol...where do you get burnt? Nothing is burnt. Watch in 3 weeks how they look. Still look great for just over 4 weeks...you don't know what your talking about. Seeds from Seedsman! You a joke man...lol!

Sorry to OP that we kinda hyjacked this thread. These guys are wrong though and am glad you are not going to feed it...you won't be sorry...just watch your trichs and don't worry what they look like. Many seem to stall near the end but watch your lower bud sites...should be piling on.

bezalom said:

lol...where do you get burnt? Nothing is burnt. Watch in 3 weeks how they look. Still look great for just over 4 weeks...you don't know what your talking about. Seeds from Seedsman! You a joke man...lol!

Sorry to OP that we kinda hyjacked this thread. These guys are wrong though and am glad you are not going to feed it...you won't be sorry...just watch your trichs and don't worry what they look like. Many seem to stall near the end but watch your lower bud sites...should be piling on.

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Seeds from seedsman? I've only ran one fem blueberry seed from seedsman and it was shit. His lines are garbage.

I have many grows posted here on rollitup and those grows tell the whole world I know what the fuck I'm doing, Those same people can then compare for themselves my weed vs yours. I'm confident in whose weed they think looks better.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Seeds from seedsman? I've only ran one fem blueberry seed from seedsman and it was shit. His lines are garbage.

I have many grows posted here on rollitup and those grows tell the whole world I know what the fuck I'm doing, Those same people can then compare for themselves my weed vs yours. I'm confident in whose weed they think looks better.

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I just got here and don't have much to show but I suspect your's don't look any better at 4 weeks into flower....8 weeks from seed planted. Maybe you big commercial grower or whatever but I'm limited by space so have to grow small scale but doesn't make me any less knowledgeable....been growing 25 years and have seen it all (not saying I know it all though)! Maybe you and your idiot friends are big fancy pants here and/or in California. I don't care! It's wrong to tell this guy to feed his pot late in flower and nearly every old timer (and dispensery) would agree!

Also, think the Maui seeds are Nirvana sold by Seedsman. All my Seedsman seeds have sprouted (can't say same for another seed bank won't mention name). Even the freebies like this low bushy AK-48

thenotsoesoteric said:

I know your pain. I just went through this same issues in Dec/Jan when I bought a bag of tupur soil mix that was out of condition. Tupur is coco and the bag must have dried out and then got wet again while the store/vendor had it. I didn't know the mix was bunk so I didn't recondition the coco and within a couple of weeks my shit had basically stopped growing.

I thought it was ph, then I thought it was my cal/mag or fertilizer went bad but after addressing those issues my plants seemed to get a little better but still suffered. That's when it dawned on me the tupur must be the issue so I went and got a fresh bag from a reputable source and bam shit was back on track.

The bad tupur mix wouldn't dry out like normal and the roots got water logged. It would take a week for the 2 gallon pot to dry out when it should have only taken 1 or 2 days.

It's all here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/grapes-13-hazeman.954539/

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Hmmm. That reminds me. I had a whole bale of peat that was out of whack. Bad pH. I ended up dumping it in the compost. It was in one of my threads.

It's possible to get bad soil. Not bad but out of range I should say.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Seeds from seedsman? I've only ran one fem blueberry seed from seedsman and it was shit. His lines are garbage.

I have many grows posted here on rollitup and those grows tell the whole world I know what the fuck I'm doing, Those same people can then compare for themselves my weed vs yours. I'm confident in whose weed they think looks better.

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Seedsman has a good white widow. Sativa dominant. I also got some hawaiin skunk haze freebies from them that are no longer available. It was a 16+ week land race sativa.

It was good.

That about all that stands out though.

It doesn't matter how long you've been growing, lol. You can do something wrong forever and not know it's wrong unless you educate yourself. No one can do that for you.

So to OP look up some of my grows here
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buddhas-dream-sin-city.861753/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/esos-pheno-hunt.932906/

If a plant wasn't up to par or I didn't do well I say 100% what went wrong, that is how I journal things.

The whole flushing thing is hog wash. Where in nature or even in agriculture do plants get "flushed" of nitrogen? No where. No where else do farmers "flush" their consumable crops.

Dude is super knowledgeable on false 100% proven wrong old tactics but that ain't good weed.

He still uses blurple lights,that should say a lot about him.Plants yellow because flushing kills the plant at the most vital time of bud growth.The last 2 weeks is when they bulk up and frost out.There is never a need to flush a plant,ever!That is only true if the plant is grown right.Your plants were burnt to hell and then starved at the end.

thenotsoesoteric said:

It doesn't matter how long you've been growing, lol. You can do something wrong forever and not know it's wrong unless you educate yourself. No one can do that for you.

So to OP look up some of my grows here
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buddhas-dream-sin-city.861753/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/esos-pheno-hunt.932906/

If a plant wasn't up to par or I didn't do well I say 100% what went wrong, that is how I journal things.

The whole flushing thing is hog wash. Where in nature or even in agriculture do plants get "flushed" of nitrogen? No where. No where else do farmers "flush" their consumable crops.

Dude is super knowledgeable on false 100% proven wrong old tactics but that ain't good weed.

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Sorry, not seeing any difference in fact I'll keep mine....My buds are almost as big as soda can....can't see from pics....I also have huge hands...in pic with hand. I see one bud that must have tasted like crap and bet all your dried bud is dark and/or brown...lol. So you post your grows and out of three grows one group of buds (and like 1 pic...is it even yours?)..lol

Mine are bigger and more healthy and I bet you have much more money to throw at it them then me....I'm on disability and grow as a medical patient.

edit: no one is flushing Nitrogen! Tap water..especially here (high akaline) and walmart spring water has much stuff in it good for pot growing....but over time will build up deposits (crystals) at the root tips restricting upflow...the flushing washes these away increasing plants ability to uptake nutrients.

Now, in late 90's Maui would take up to 14 months for amber trichs....after three months of tap mixed with spring water (can't even use staright tap water here for pot) plant needs a flush. Seen the difference many times in growth after flush. Many use distilled water to avoid this but many micros in tap water.

However, This Maui I have now looks like a 7-8 week variety...Fem seeds...that's almost half the time it once took. You guys talked me into not flushing because gonna have such an extensive root ball (already nearly do in one) that in a few weeks gonna all be run trough anyway.



There is all this hype (getting same thing from a friend that swears by Foxfarm and he can't even grow indoors with good lights...he grows outdoors...big...with Foxfarm nutes and his pot sucks. Ya, it will get you high but yuck!). He says the same about flushing....see it's part of the scam to get a bunch of idiots hooked on a schedule of additives....costing a small fortune....and screwing up genetics....and taste like crap...not to mention the yet unlearned aspect of all else you people smoke with your additives!

A fool and his money are soon parted! If you want to believe all this hype about additives (and no flushing..how else they gonna schedule you up to last week...lol). Ya, my Foxfarm friend claims the same about flushing and claims..."oh ya, they make stuff to add that will increase trichs and resin"...LMAO.

You are the one missing out as is proven that extending feeding into late flower can cause trichs to not ever turn amber on some strains (and that's natural?!?!)...and bud size is increased when plant is allowed to extract what it needs from the leaves to make the buds...you however are feeding yours so no (or little) storehouse is taken from leaves making for smaller buds (I also know this from my own experience using nutes).

This is first time in my life I have ever cropped marijuana....I grew exclusively whole one cola plants (5+ feet) in 5 gal buckets for many years. I have to keep em low now and cropping is the way to do it but am still trying to find that best size (with regard to veg) so I will get better as some I only veg 3 weeks and crop twice in that time at 24 hr light and stick em in 12/12. These Maui are first i veg full 30 days so earlier are smaller than I would like but small plants make smaller buds. My closet shelf (where I hang my lights from) limits my vertical growth so have to be careful for bleaching. I do construction so may just take it out but packed to ceiling with stuff for now so...

Mine still looks better and didn't see much pics in first two grows of mature plants so not sure why you posted em. Hydro should grow bigger than my soil (and quicker) so hard to compare hydro to soil but still I see I'm the better grower until I see more bud pics!

This brainwashing conspiracy to get all the newbie growers hooked on additives is a scam for your money. It isn't helping your plants. Ya, they will grow....and look and taste like crap dried.

I have bought from many dispensaries in Colorado (mostly in Denver) and never bought any dark, crappy tasting pot. Most is lime green (ya, light green)..not dark like yours dried. Why do you suppose the dispensary doesn't sell dark pot....because the growers know what they are doing! You don't! Get a clue and get off the additive schedule train!

bezalom said:

lol...where do you get burnt? Nothing is burnt. Watch in 3 weeks how they look. Still look great for just over 4 weeks...you don't know what your talking about. Seeds from Seedsman! You a joke man...lol!

Sorry to OP that we kinda hyjacked this thread. These guys are wrong though and am glad you are not going to feed it...you won't be sorry...just watch your trichs and don't worry what they look like. Many seem to stall near the end but watch your lower bud sites...should be piling on.

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Will do and thank you, i needed that reassurance, haha. No worries about the hijacking. Im interested in what youre all saying! Haha.

And yes blurple plus Rapid Led...(plus shop light and 85 watt 5000K for heat)

Great blurple...IR, UV, 5 watt Cree...made in USA

If you notice on utube etc. that even the guys that use white light (which is all we had for years) even on big commercial grows still hang some blurple...Know why?

Because all us old time growers saw the increase in leaf growth (bushy) and resin with blurple....and is still true. If you notice my blurple also has white light.

https://advancedledlights.com/products/led-grow-lights/ds-xte-200/

Green to the end!Flushing is for toilets!!!!!

bezalom said:

Sorry, not seeing any difference in fact I'll keep mine....My buds are almost as big as soda can....can't see from pics....I also have huge hands...in pic with hand. I see one bud that must have tasted like crap and bet all your dried bud is dark and/or brown...lol. So you post your grows and out of three grows one group of buds (and like 1 pic...is it even yours?)..lol

Mine are bigger and more healthy and I bet you have much more money to throw at it them then me....I'm on disability and grow as a medical patient.

edit: no one is flushing Nitrogen! Tap water..especially here (high akaline) and walmart spring water has much stuff in it good for pot growing....but over time will build up deposits (crystals) at the root tips restricting upflow...the flushing washes these away increasing plants ability to uptake nutrients.

Now, in late 90's Maui would take up to 14 months for amber trichs....after three months of tap mixed with spring water (can't even use staright tap water here for pot) plant needs a flush. Seen the difference many times in growth after flush. Many use distilled water to avoid this but many micros in tap water.

However, This Maui I have now looks like a 7-8 week variety...Fem seeds...that's almost half the time it once took. You guys talked me into not flushing because gonna have such an extensive root ball (already nearly do in one) that in a few weeks gonna all be run trough anyway.



There is all this hype (getting same thing from a friend that swears by Foxfarm and he can't even grow indoors with good lights...he grows outdoors...big...with Foxfarm nutes and his pot sucks. Ya, it will get you high but yuck!). He says the same about flushing....see it's part of the scam to get a bunch of idiots hooked on a schedule of additives....costing a small fortune....and screwing up genetics....and taste like crap...not to mention the yet unlearned aspect of all else you people smoke with your additives!

A fool and his money are soon parted! If you want to believe all this hype about additives (and no flushing..how else they gonna schedule you up to last week...lol). Ya, my Foxfarm friend claims the same about flushing and claims..."oh ya, they make stuff to add that will increase trichs and resin"...LMAO.

You are the one missing out as is proven that extending feeding into late flower can cause trichs to not ever turn amber on some strains (and that's natural?!?!)...and bud size is increased when plant is allowed to extract what it needs from the leaves to make the buds...you however are feeding yours so no (or little) storehouse is taken from leaves making for smaller buds (I also know this from my own experience using nutes).

This is first time in my life I have ever cropped marijuana....I grew exclusively whole one cola plants (5+ feet) in 5 gal buckets for many years. I have to keep em low now and cropping is the way to do it but am still trying to find that best size (with regard to veg) so I will get better as some I only veg 3 weeks and crop twice in that time at 24 hr light and stick em in 12/12. These Maui are first i veg full 30 days so earlier are smaller than I would like but small plants make smaller buds. My closet shelf (where I hang my lights from) limits my vertical growth so have to be careful for bleaching. I do construction so may just take it out but packed to ceiling with stuff for now so...

Mine still looks better and didn't see much pics in first two grows of mature plants so not sure why you posted em. Hydro should grow bigger than my soil (and quicker) so hard to compare hydro to soil but still I see I'm the better grower until I see more bud pics!

This brainwashing conspiracy to get all the newbie growers hooked on additives is a scam for your money. It isn't helping your plants. Ya, they will grow....and look and taste like crap dried.

I have bought from many dispensaries in Colorado (mostly in Denver) and never bought any dark, crappy tasting pot. Most is lime green (ya, light green)..not dark like yours dried. Why do you suppose the dispensary doesn't sell dark pot....because the growers know what they are doing! You don't! Get a clue and get off the additive schedule train!

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You're out of your mind buddy. Your weed has no resin on it so how are you getting high?

All I know is you can talk all the crap you want but hands down I'd put my weed up against yours any day, lol.

You know why the bud you get from shops is light green? Because they dried it fast and didn't cure it you smart genius, but you already knew that, right?

bezalom said:

Sorry, not seeing any difference in fact I'll keep mine....My buds are almost as big as soda can....can't see from pics....I also have huge hands...in pic with hand. I see one bud that must have tasted like crap and bet all your dried bud is dark and/or brown...lol. So you post your grows and out of three grows one group of buds (and like 1 pic...is it even yours?)..lol

Mine are bigger and more healthy and I bet you have much more money to throw at it them then me....I'm on disability and grow as a medical patient.

edit: no one is flushing Nitrogen! Tap water..especially here (high akaline) and walmart spring water has much stuff in it good for pot growing....but over time will build up deposits (crystals) at the root tips restricting upflow...the flushing washes these away increasing plants ability to uptake nutrients.

Now, in late 90's Maui would take up to 14 months for amber trichs....after three months of tap mixed with spring water (can't even use staright tap water here for pot) plant needs a flush. Seen the difference many times in growth after flush. Many use distilled water to avoid this but many micros in tap water.

However, This Maui I have now looks like a 7-8 week variety...Fem seeds...that's almost half the time it once took. You guys talked me into not flushing because gonna have such an extensive root ball (already nearly do in one) that in a few weeks gonna all be run trough anyway.



There is all this hype (getting same thing from a friend that swears by Foxfarm and he can't even grow indoors with good lights...he grows outdoors...big...with Foxfarm nutes and his pot sucks. Ya, it will get you high but yuck!). He says the same about flushing....see it's part of the scam to get a bunch of idiots hooked on a schedule of additives....costing a small fortune....and screwing up genetics....and taste like crap...not to mention the yet unlearned aspect of all else you people smoke with your additives!

A fool and his money are soon parted! If you want to believe all this hype about additives (and no flushing..how else they gonna schedule you up to last week...lol). Ya, my Foxfarm friend claims the same about flushing and claims..."oh ya, they make stuff to add that will increase trichs and resin"...LMAO.

You are the one missing out as is proven that extending feeding into late flower can cause trichs to not ever turn amber on some strains (and that's natural?!?!)...and bud size is increased when plant is allowed to extract what it needs from the leaves to make the buds...you however are feeding yours so no (or little) storehouse is taken from leaves making for smaller buds (I also know this from my own experience using nutes).

This is first time in my life I have ever cropped marijuana....I grew exclusively whole one cola plants (5+ feet) in 5 gal buckets for many years. I have to keep em low now and cropping is the way to do it but am still trying to find that best size (with regard to veg) so I will get better as some I only veg 3 weeks and crop twice in that time at 24 hr light and stick em in 12/12. These Maui are first i veg full 30 days so earlier are smaller than I would like but small plants make smaller buds. My closet shelf (where I hang my lights from) limits my vertical growth so have to be careful for bleaching. I do construction so may just take it out but packed to ceiling with stuff for now so...

Mine still looks better and didn't see much pics in first two grows of mature plants so not sure why you posted em. Hydro should grow bigger than my soil (and quicker) so hard to compare hydro to soil but still I see I'm the better grower until I see more bud pics!

This brainwashing conspiracy to get all the newbie growers hooked on additives is a scam for your money. It isn't helping your plants. Ya, they will grow....and look and taste like crap dried.

I have bought from many dispensaries in Colorado (mostly in Denver) and never bought any dark, crappy tasting pot. Most is lime green (ya, light green)..not dark like yours dried. Why do you suppose the dispensary doesn't sell dark pot....because the growers know what they are doing! You don't! Get a clue and get off the additive schedule train!

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Lol. Soda can.

Hell mine were bigger under t5. Those are 15 inch wide pots.

thenotsoesoteric said:

It doesn't matter how long you've been growing, lol. You can do something wrong forever and not know it's wrong unless you educate yourself. No one can do that for you.

So to OP look up some of my grows here
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buddhas-dream-sin-city.861753/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/esos-pheno-hunt.932906/

If a plant wasn't up to par or I didn't do well I say 100% what went wrong, that is how I journal things.

The whole flushing thing is hog wash. Where in nature or even in agriculture do plants get "flushed" of nitrogen? No where. No where else do farmers "flush" their consumable crops.

Dude is super knowledgeable on false 100% proven wrong old tactics but that ain't good weed.

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I do the same in my journal. There are some nice plants in there. Some screw ups also.

I try to show an honest look at my growing.

whitebb2727 said:

I do the same in my journal. There are some nice plants in there. Some screw ups also.

I try to show an honest look at my growing.

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Well clearly he missed my buddhas dream grow page 5 where I have a liter bottle sized head nodge.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buddhas-dream-sin-city.861753/page-4

Or my critical dream star grow page 3 where there are at least 2 plants with again liter size colas. lol
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/page-3

Dude is a jealous loser.

I never would have said shit to him but I seen him talking shit to you and I've seen several of your grows and I thought it was shitty how he came at you. He weed looks like it was grown with plain water at like 90F temps. He is full of shit, imo.

Again I say where in nature or agriculture do farmers starve their plants at any point? None. If you grow a plant in soil aka in the ground, it will continue to uptake nitrogen all the way through flower, along with all other nutrients. Lol just common fucking sense.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Well clearly he missed my buddhas dream grow page 5 where I have a liter bottle sized head nodge.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buddhas-dream-sin-city.861753/page-4

Or my critical dream star grow page 3 where there are at least 2 plants with again liter size colas. lol
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/page-3

Dude is a jealous loser.

I never would have said shit to him but I seen him talking shit to you and I've seen several of your grows and I thought it was shitty how he came at you. He weed looks like it was grown with plain water at like 90F temps. He is full of shit, imo.

Again I say where in nature or agriculture do farmers starve their plants at any point? None. If you grow a plant in soil aka in the ground, it will continue to uptake nitrogen all the way through flower, along with all other nutrients. Lol just common fucking sense.

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Yea. Cannabis is full of stuff that no one else does to other crops.

Thanks. I never really meant nothing towards the dude and would have left it be. I think it wrong to tell someone looking for help it's normal for plants to be yellow at mid flower.

Nice plants in those threads.