Still having some problems with the dinafem cheese!

whitebb2727 said:

That was another plant that was vegging. That was grown under t5. Amber tricomes. A week or so before chop. It's ok. You bought into the hype and think starving plants is good.

It was organic. Plant took what it wanted.

Smoothness comes from dry a cure. Not flushing or other bro science.

Nitrogen is needed in flower.

Your plants look better than ops. The op plant is not normal and shame on you for saying so.

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So let's recap. You got to make an excuse that it's normal to starve and fry your plants with bloom boosters at the end.

Those plants were 2 foot for the one and around 36 inches for the others. Main colas about 18 inches to 2 foot and thick as my arm grown under a cheap 4 foot 8 bulb t5.

I'll let the op choose.

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bezalom said:

LOL....you ruined those buds by overfeeding so close to harvest. looks like yo have most of it right but ...lol..seriously? Why do you think leaves turn in the fall...think marijuana is different? His plant further along then mine....give mine 2-3 weeks will have all light green leaves just like his. Flushing is to flush the buildup of crystals at root tips to enhance the up-flow of nutrients. Has nothing to do with Nitrogen. You really don't have a clue. Go research yourself or read a book. You know that bitter aftertaste you have after every puff....that's all your feeding/Nitrogen...lol. Now go take your meds kid!

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Masochist said:

Thats good advice. Im just not to the level of growing yet where i can tell what it needs. And when i do know, its too late haha. But hey thats with anything! I was using earth juice grow, bloom and microblast. Think on my next one just use light veg nutes even through flower until it says otherwise?

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budman111 said:

Well we know to avoid this brand then.

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Masochist said:

Wow, thats under a T5? Thats insane. Ive had a couple pretty decent grows under t5 but no yields or plants like that.

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bezalom said:

Wait, now I see...Foxfarm!?!?? That explains it! Foxfarm scam to buy crap Ocean Forest and then have to buy all the expensive bottles and feed on schedule...lol.
Foxfarm isn't even organic. It's for dummies who think they need all that crap to grow stunted overfed plants...lol. Ya, feed em right up to harvest...lol!

dude if you had some humility you would try it the right way and find how much better your bud will taste. Anyone can feed em up to harvest but only an idiot would!

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bezalom said:

Wait, now I see...Foxfarm!?!?? That explains it! Foxfarm scam to buy crap Ocean Forest and then have to buy all the expensive bottles and feed on schedule...lol.
Foxfarm isn't even organic. It's for dummies who think they need all that crap to grow stunted overfed plants...lol. Ya, feed em right up to harvest...lol!

dude if you had some humility you would try it the right way and find how much better your bud will taste. Anyone can feed em up to harvest but only an idiot would!

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whitebb2727 said:

You don't know the first thing about living soil so drop it. It looks better than your fried shit.


What do you not understand? I documented that grow from start to finish. Water only living soil.


You will get the hang of it. Learn as you go. Write things down. Take notes and keep your pics. You can look back if need be.

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whitebb2727 said:

I have a few grow threads on here. One is 40-60 pages long. I don't remember.

I've shown everything from healthy plants to screw ups. We all make mistakes.

I was raised growing a garden every year. Done it since I could walk and been growing pot over 20 years.

I still screw up.

I also don't buy into bullshit cannabis specific this or that. Bloom boosters or flushing.

Especially flushing. That's a debate I care not to start back up. Science doesn't support it. You don't flush tobacco. It's green when chopped.

Proper plant nutrition is important late flower. Cannabis can put on up to 25% of it's weight the last couple weeks. It's important for terpene production.

I have read the studies. Proper nutrition raises most cannabinoids. Tox lowers them as well as starving them.

Then beval said something about flushing organic. Why? It's organic. Water only. The way I grow. It gets nothing but water. It can't be flushed.

I'm rambling now. Anyways. It takes a little time but you will get it.

I say you need to let one go until it's limp from needing water. You will then see the difference in under and over water droop.

Under watering and the leaf stems will relax and let the leaves lay against the plant. Over water and the leaves will droop but not the stem. You then get yellowing and necrotic spots.

Chronic under water has a unique look. Had a plant outdoors get a dry spot that became hydrophobic. Wouldn't take water. Peat bases are bad for it.

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Masochist said:

Wouldnt take water huh? Thats screwed up!

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whitebb2727 said:

You don't know the first thing about living soil so drop it. It looks better than your fried shit.


What do you not understand? I documented that grow from start to finish. Water only living soil.


You will get the hang of it. Learn as you go. Write things down. Take notes and keep your pics. You can look back if need be.

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whitebb2727 said:

Water tension. No shit. Right in the middle of the root ball. You can add a drop of dish soap to water and it helps if the soil is hydrophobic.

Here is a good thread. Long but good.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

This is a good book. Dry read but great for understanding organic growing.

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The other guy is claiming to grow organic but uses organic and flushing in the same post.

Read up on those two and you will be straight.

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bezalom said:

Idiot...unless you use distilled water...crystals will build up at root tips and from soil will build up at root tips....flushing removes these crystal buildups....has little to do with the soil and everything to do with tap or spring water!

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bezalom said:

You don't make any sense dude! Here are some pics of my yellowing of some White Widow several weeks before harvest (first one close up of kush from pics above)

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whitebb2727 said:

When I say organic I mean a true organic living soil with no bottles. Made from scratch. Water only from start to finish.

It doesn't have to be complicated. Mix equal parts of a base like promix, compost and worm castings. Add a little garden tone and you will be good to go.
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Garden tone is like $8 for eight pounds. Cheap and non burning.

This is a little better but cost more. It covers most of the popular meals like kelp and such.
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whitebb2727 said:

Nope. Not how it works. Water tension. Maybe go back to school.

I use rain water anyways.

Got any more pics of fried plants? Lol.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

water doesn't cause "crystals" to build up, unless its so fucking hard it breaks your teeth when you try to drink it.
the salts that nutrients are bonded to build up in growing medium if you don't water to run off regularly. doesn't have to be every time, but at least every third time. that's not "flushing". that's watering to run off. if you don't over feed, there's never a reason to "flush", which is actually leeching, flushing applies to toilets.

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