Soon, the world will be burning 100 million barrels of oil EVERY DAY

SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Yeah, because Biogas is better than the easier solution that powers the entire planet anyway...

Nature has the solution, it's plainly obvious and some people need to argue against it purely for the sake of being contrarian.

Sunlight, panel, storage, inverter, grid.

No new large infrastructure required, just the roof of your house and a housing for batteries. Grid is already there, meters are already there. Absolutely no change to quality of life, just a direct replacement for all electricity generation.

Leverage the various "fuels" one and only advantage; portability (with high energy density), for ships, planes, etc. that need a portable energy source.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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SneekyNinja said:
Yeah, because Biogas is better than the easier solution that powers the entire planet anyway...

Nature has the solution, it's plainly obvious and some people need to argue against it purely for the sake of being contrarian.

Sunlight, panel, storage, inverter, grid.

No new large infrastructure required, just the roof of your house and a housing for batteries. Grid is already there, meters are already there. Absolutely no change to quality of life, just a direct replacement for all electricity generation.

Leverage the various "fuels" one and only advantage; portability (with high energy density), for ships, planes, etc. that need a portable energy source.
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Some sites are better than others for solar and there's no reason solar and biogas couldn't both be used.

I built my own fixed solar array containing 6 170 watt panels. I got about 8 years of decent results and two years of shitty results from the 6 volt batteries I configured into a 24 volt system, before the batteries finally died.

Cost seem to have come down and technology has improved since I began. Played around with basic solar hot water setups too. House is completely off grid, but we cheat sometimes when guests are over and run a small gasoline generator to run the well pump due to extra showers etc. Always wanted to setup my propane fridge to burn methane, but never got that far.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Rob Roy said:
Some sites are better than others for solar and there's no reason solar and biogas couldn't both be used.

I built my own fixed solar array containing 6 170 watt panels. I got about 8 years of decent results and two years of shitty results from the 6 volt batteries I configured into a 24 volt system, before the batteries finally died.

Cost seem to have come down and technology has improved since I began. Played around with basic solar hot water setups too. House is completely off grid, but we cheat sometimes when guests are over and run a small gasoline generator to run the well pump due to extra showers etc. Always wanted to setup my propane fridge to burn methane, but never got that far.
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The difference in technology between now and 10 years ago is vast, if you've already the wiring and mounting brackets you should take a look again.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
I think biogas is lighter than air, so it probably could be set up passive or if more is needed a small suction fan might do the trick. There are videos of cooking stoves using methane. It's basically controlled fart lighting.

I've always thought it wasteful to spend lots of money building sewage treatment plants, when the off gassing methane could be harvested and the left over waste could be composted.
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Your notions about physics and power production are as off base as your politics. You really need to study more and blather less.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
Your notions about physics and power production are as off base as your politics. You really need to study more and blather less.
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I think methane is lighter than air. That fart you think you emitted? It might have been a solid. Check your pants.
 
gwheels

gwheels

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The solution is what? Riding a bike 6 hours each way to work? Hybrid cars wirh batteries that fill landfills?
cars are a huge problem with no viable solution. How many cars on the road in the USA and how many produced every year?

How about China and India. The latter running oil burning 2 strokes by the millions.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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gwheels said:
The solution is what? Riding a bike 6 hours each way to work? Hybrid cars wirh batteries that fill landfills?
cars are a huge problem with no viable solution. How many cars on the road in the USA and how many produced every year?

How about China and India. The latter running oil burning 2 strokes by the millions.
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Yup the task seems daunting doesn’t it. But we really do need to start working on a solution or at least do a few things that help the situation. Storage for electric power is a huge hurdle though your right. I sat by a train track yesterday and watched probably a mile and half of tankers fly by, just added a bit more perspective to how much oil we use.
 
gwheels

gwheels

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We are massive oil producers. All of the idiots in power (all parties, liberal ndp and pc) budgeted on oil. They will love it to come back because they cant budget shit. The problem will go away when the tap runs dry. Grain fights for space on the train.

Oil is greater than food for money. And it drivea all things.

Ban all suvs maybe
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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So I’m sitting on my porch and here they come ....... jet-ski armada ..... fuck. I propose we outlaw all gas motors on inland lakes and use strictly solar. I’m not saying this lightly as I own 3 gas powered boats, one being a gas guzzling, fun to drive deckboat. Honestly I could sell them all and buy a solar powered one. Everyone else would have to though lol.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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gwheels said:
We are massive oil producers. All of the idiots in power (all parties, liberal ndp and pc) budgeted on oil. They will love it to come back because they cant budget shit. The problem will go away when the tap runs dry. Grain fights for space on the train.

Oil is greater than food for money. And it drivea all things.

Ban all suvs maybe
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Sure but let me keep my truck k lol
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
I think methane is lighter than air. That fart you think you emitted? It might have been a solid. Check your pants.
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rollitup said:
Oh I see. His emission was actually an excretion. :lol:


Hmmm, both of them smell.


:mrgreen:
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Neither one of you knows shiznit from shinola, apparently.

Methane is colorless and odorless and mixes freely in the atmosphere. It takes about 12 years to break down into carbon dioxide and water, during which time it's some 30 times more potent a greenhouse gas.

Google is your friend, assumption your enemy.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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gwheels said:
The solution is what? Riding a bike 6 hours each way to work? Hybrid cars wirh batteries that fill landfills?
cars are a huge problem with no viable solution. How many cars on the road in the USA and how many produced every year?

How about China and India. The latter running oil burning 2 strokes by the millions.
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The electric energy cycle is more efficient than internal combustion of fossil fuels.

Batteries are getting better, and they're recyclable. Cars themselves are recyclable and in fact are recycled constantly. Ever been to a scrapyard?

Just giving up isn't a solution.
 
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