Someguy15s Perpetual 1kw Pineapple Express & More

Someguy15

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Looks tasty Bro. Nice work! I will be watching to see what becomes of those balls you found.
hell yea, hopefully we have some PExAfgan Kush seeds, 2 of my best danks crossed would be amazing. Should be 95% fem seeds too since the female was over flowered and this won't be a self pollination.
damn bro that hindu looked hary as hell! purrrty!
haha, one of my buddies saw it and called it osamas beard lol
 

Someguy15

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Alright, the girls are really goin now. I noticed one of my clones of the PE seems to be lacking on chlorophyl. It has been this way it's whole life, and it has caused it to stretch like crazy. It's also not budding as fully as the other ones. I knew there was something wrong with that clone shoulda pitched it. Check out the pics, they are like 36" tall now...just crazy... hope the 1000w penetrates deep! 40 days to glory!

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Also cleaned them up underneath so they can breathe better. It was dying back anyhow.
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#1Raiderfan420

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Also cleaned them up underneath so they can breathe better. It was dying back anyhow.
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Looks awesome man. I think I mentioned that I am trying to decide if I should go with staight hydroton or with the 50/50 mix of croutons. Have you tried straight hydroton? How often do you flood your trays with the 50/50 mix? Is that the level you flood your trays in this pic or is it draining at this point? Sorry for all the questions man, just really diggin your results.
 

Someguy15

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Looks awesome man. I think I mentioned that I am trying to decide if I should go with staight hydroton or with the 50/50 mix of croutons. Have you tried straight hydroton? How often do you flood your trays with the 50/50 mix? Is that the level you flood your trays in this pic or is it draining at this point? Sorry for all the questions man, just really diggin your results.
Thanks man. I like the blend better because you don't have to flood it 8x a day and the mix of 50% repellent (hydroton) 50% absorbent (rw) seems to be the perfect root environment, but I have never tried pure hydroton to be honest. I was flooding 3x a day previously, but since the move I have upped it to 4x/ light cycle with good results. I flood the tray as high as possible without overflowing it. There's about an inch to spare from the top of the tray on the low end, a little bit more maybe 2in on the high end. But it's good to not flood the very top roots imo, they are oxygen specialized and they get plenty of moisture from the rw wicking to keep them wet. It has been working really well, I was considering coco but with how it's been going I see no reason to change. My canopy is the best yet, 5ftx4.5ft so here's to hoping for a elbow and a half. Don't worry bout questions, that's how we all learn bro, keep em coming.
Looking good my man looking good.
Thanks for droppin in, and for the rep. The afgan was a hit, so a new mother is coming soon. Also, round 6 clones have been taken. 10x PE. Planning to run 5x PE and 5X Afgan kush for round 7. Can't wait to keep banging harvests out.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Thanks man. I like the blend better because you don't have to flood it 8x a day and the mix of 50% repellent (hydroton) 50% absorbent (rw) seems to be the perfect root environment, but I have never tried pure hydroton to be honest. I was flooding 3x a day previously, but since the move I have upped it to 4x/ light cycle with good results. I flood the tray as high as possible without overflowing it. There's about an inch to spare from the top of the tray on the low end, a little bit more maybe 2in on the high end. But it's good to not flood the very top roots imo, they are oxygen specialized and they get plenty of moisture from the rw wicking to keep them wet. It has been working really well, I was considering coco but with how it's been going I see no reason to change. My canopy is the best yet, 5ftx4.5ft so here's to hoping for a elbow and a half. Don't worry bout questions, that's how we all learn bro, keep em coming.
Cool and thanks for the info. So I am assuming you do not water during the night cycle at all? When you mix the rw and ht, do you just mix it until it looks evenily mixed or do layer them? I know that sounds like dumb question, but I have heard of using layering mediums. It looks like you mix it up though to be as evenly mixed as possible. One more question since you don't mind . lol Do use cover on your pots? I used them this run and ended up getting a little mold on the tops of the rw. Thanks again for sharing you experience man.
I can tell you coco is great for drain to waste systems and top watering. I had great results if you look back at my first couple of grows. I wasn't using CO2 yet when I used the coco. It stays wet a long time is you flood it and takes a few days to start to dry out. I think it is great for hand watering or drip systems, but not the ideal medium for flood and drain IMHO.
 

Someguy15

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Im in for the whole fight.HOw many rounds left?LMao
Hoping to get Round 5 (current) through 10 in this place. After that I will likely be moving and have a new setup.
Cool and thanks for the info. So I am assuming you do not water during the night cycle at all? When you mix the rw and ht, do you just mix it until it looks evenily mixed or do layer them? I know that sounds like dumb question, but I have heard of using layering mediums. It looks like you mix it up though to be as evenly mixed as possible. One more question since you don't mind . lol Do use cover on your pots? I used them this run and ended up getting a little mold on the tops of the rw. Thanks again for sharing you experience man.
I can tell you coco is great for drain to waste systems and top watering. I had great results if you look back at my first couple of grows. I wasn't using CO2 yet when I used the coco. It stays wet a long time is you flood it and takes a few days to start to dry out. I think it is great for hand watering or drip systems, but not the ideal medium for flood and drain IMHO.
Nope, don't need to flood at night, plenty of moisture in the RW and doing everything possible to keep humidity down at night botrytis is a mofo. Got a dehumidifier but that's another 600w if u feel me haha. Anyway, I just literally eyeball the mix, 1 bag of hydroton to 1 large bag of rw mini cubes or rw grow chunks. I will admit washing hydroton blows, and you gotta soak the RW in low ph water, 5 or so is good, they also sell conditioner, but I think its a waste. When ready I pour a little from each back and forth until its in my 30 gal rubbermaid in layers. Then I just grab a big ass spoon and stir it. This is why I prefer the grow chunks, because they are larger they stand up to the mixing better. I don't worry about covering them usually, but one trick I have used is leaving the top inch of the pot empty. Then I just fill that with pure hydroton, without the RW on the top, wala no alge.

Yean, I would hand water or d2w drip coco, maybe something to explore later, but this is serving me well for now.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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When ready I pour a little from each back and forth until its in my 30 gal rubbermaid in layers. Then I just grab a big ass spoon and stir it.
That makes sense. I have used rw and have always pre-soaked. Are you mixing before you pre-soak the rw or the other way around?
 

Someguy15

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That makes sense. I have used rw and have always pre-soaked. Are you mixing before you pre-soak the rw or the other way around?
pre-soak it seperate. Then use a strainer or similar to drain. mix drained RW in tub with hydroton. 2 people pouring a bag each at the same time works really well.
 

maniacal420

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Ladies looking good Guy. One of my 2 closet plants has developed some problem with the leaves turning yellow an getting crispy. The weird part is that the other girl is doing great and they both have had the same treatment. I know you are a hydro guy and I am in soil, but I will have some new pics up tomorrow and would appreciate any input. Keep up the good growing, and thanks for the rep.
 

Someguy15

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Ladies looking good Guy. One of my 2 closet plants has developed some problem with the leaves turning yellow an getting crispy. The weird part is that the other girl is doing great and they both have had the same treatment. I know you are a hydro guy and I am in soil, but I will have some new pics up tomorrow and would appreciate any input. Keep up the good growing, and thanks for the rep.
What soil are you using? Did you mix garden lime into the soil? I think MJ requires huge amounts of MG and it can quickly go def. in the soil, esp under strong HID. I would ensure PH lockout (below 6) is not the case first, then proceed to dress the soil possibly. I think it's a common occurrence with FFOF from what I've seen.
 

NighT0ker

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Just checked out a few of your journals. Wow, Great Job!! This is the same type of setup I am planning (Tent /w 1000w) and you have given me some true inspiration. Hoping for 1 - 1.5 lbs per harvest and now I know its possible :mrgreen:

I was planning on using CoCo with Canna but your method seems very hassle free once set up and dialed in, got me thinking... :blsmoke:

Ever thought of running a SCROG? I was thinking it may maximize yields with this type of setup, but I would like to run a perpetual and the veg time may slow me down.

Thanks for the help!
 

Someguy15

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Just checked out a few of your journals. Wow, Great Job!! This is the same type of setup I am planning (Tent /w 1000w) and you have given me some true inspiration. Hoping for 1 - 1.5 lbs per harvest and now I know its possible :mrgreen:

I was planning on using CoCo with Canna but your method seems very hassle free once set up and dialed in, got me thinking... :blsmoke:

Ever thought of running a SCROG? I was thinking it may maximize yields with this type of setup, but I would like to run a perpetual and the veg time may slow me down.

Thanks for the help!
Same idea here man. Wanted to do a scrog but until I have the space and cash to have 2 setups alternating, I see no other way to keep it perpetual and veg to fill the screen. For now I'm just going to stick to perpetual, the harvest could probably be a touch larger, but getting them more often makes up for the loss imo.
 

NighT0ker

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I never even thought of having 2 scrog's at once for perpetual.... great idea!

I imagine you could pull out about 2 P's per cycle :bigjoint:
 

litljohn

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whats up sg15,the girls are looking great as always.i just got a bunch of stuff for the next cycle,new 600 light,3x3 flood table,and a whole new line of nutes.i also got some of that hygrozyme to help keep the algea away and the rrots healthier.didnt you say you only use it at 1/2 strength or something,i just dont want to use alot if i dont have too or not use anough,thanks for the info.
 
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