So Those People That Knock On Your Door

Naminator

Member
Yeah holding doors or putting your foot in the way is not appropriate.

I know your friends probably say it but we aren't all like that. I try to respect people at all times. If I am knocking on doors in the morning I knock very softly. Loud enough so if someone is awake they can come but soft enough to not rouse your from sleep (Or at least make you get out of bed).
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
I was raised a JW, and some of them can get a little righteous, I'm sure, but they are no more nutty than any other Christian group, and a lot less than some. Still, Christians are like the date rapists of the spiritual world. You can tell them no over and over, but they're still gonna try to get in somehow.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Yeah holding doors or putting your foot in the way is not appropriate.

I know your friends probably say it but we aren't all like that. I try to respect people at all times. If I am knocking on doors in the morning I knock very softly. Loud enough so if someone is awake they can come but soft enough to not rouse your from sleep (Or at least make you get out of bed).
Actually my friends tell me to get a name so they can go to the elders or however that works. Only been in one service and didn't stay for the whole thing. MOST of it was ok but i was raised in the Nazarene church and was fairly young when i went so i didn't really comprehend what all was going on.

i'm not condemning the religion alone, i'm condemning "religion gone wild" period. And i don't care WHICH religion it is.

i've said it several times before and i'll say it again, i don't care if one fucks a goat, just don't fuck MY goat. If people are nice and polite i can be so as well. When people are asses, well i sometimes can be a bigger one. Only when called for. i wouldn't have dropped my towel at first go around, but she DID disrespect me the first time by not honoring the fact that it was a bad time for me and simply walking away to return later. i didn't do it until the 3rd or 4th time when after repeated requests to leave she didn't. She was breaking the law for crying out loud.

i prescribe to the battle philosophy of krav maga, the training for the Israeli military. It basically states that when one is confronted with a conflict the very first thing you do is try to mitigate that conflict. Next, warn them. The next thing to remember is kill 'em with kindness and give them an opportunity to either be sensible or leave. The next is continue negotiating politely and as pleasantly as is practical. ONLY when you have followed these steps do you attack. But when you attack you do so with every intent to incapcitate/kill the threatening party. In a literal fight situation that means if i'm confronted/attacked and i make the determination that my ONLY option is to fight, i will take my first swing aiming for my assailants windpipe or take a pen out of my pocket and shove it in his eye/ear(you know that soft spot below/behind your earlobe? EVERYONE has that weakness no matter how big and bad you are). Or literally gouging his eyes out, if i can ball shots. Once that determination is made it's the end of the conflict for either him or i.

Verbally on the other hand, when i make that decision that someone needs there attitude/viewpoint adjusted i have made a 23 year old man sob relentlessly because i was tired of his attacks on my friends(they are Christian and he is gay). To be honest it was a big fat juicy hanging curveball right over the middle of the plate. CRACK! You just have to be observant enough to know which weaknesses to attack. It's easier to kill a man because they ALL have the same or similar weaknesses but VERBALLY, you must not only be adept with your given language but also able to identify your enemies weaknesses.

Some may say i did good standing up for the group(out of this conflict, not blanket judgements) while others will say i'm a homophobic gay basher. Lord knows it happened quite a bit at the time. But either way, this guy brought it upon himself by his own decisions and actions and refused to listen to logic or reason. And imho i believe he needed his attitude checked. And you know the funniest thing about it is? He's now one of the MMJ patients that i grow meds for. From my viewpoint, the shift of perspective worked out in his favor. And so does he. He jokes with me about it now that he's fully out of the closet. And told me that i basically started the process. Not as a statement of anger towards anyone but rather the recognition that he was filled with rage that had nothing to do with the friends of mine he attacked. He tells me he was angry because it was socially unacceptable at the time(1994) and while those friends believed it was socially acceptable those views were NOT his to own.

P.S. i respect your technique of being respectful. What the religious zealots of ALL religions don't realize is that they would have a higher success rate if they were just very kind and persistent. As are the vast majority of Witnesses i have encountered. Just another case of a few religious nuts being lumped in with those that bear the spiritual fruits.

Kinda like dumb-ass gangbangers parading around smoking pot. "Will you look at how ALL those potheads act! DISGRACEFUL!"

Aw crap! Just saw it after the post. Sorry for the wall, but Rome wasn't built in a day and barriers take time to tear down too.
 

Naminator

Member
I respect that viewpoint greatly. Before I became a witness I practiced Judo and even after trained in a bit of Combat Hapkido. As for the person who wouldn't leave -.- she should have gotten the hint. When people do that and I hear about it it pisses me off.

Your friends are right. If you had a name they could report it to the elders of that persons congregation.

Personally I maintain neutral when it comes to debates about sexuality, politics ect. I will discuss it but I won't provide an opinion or support one method over another. Am I homophobic? No. Do I think homosexuality is wrong? Yes. Will I treat homosexuals different from every other person out there? Nope. I treat everybody with the same level of respect they treat me with.

Witnesses will never give you an opinion or suggestion about what you should do. Their are many "conscious" decisions you have to make on your own. I have encountered all types of people. At one time Witnesses where significantly more pushy then they are today. Most will accept the fall back of "Thanks I am not interested". If we do find someone willing to chat that is friendly we will continue talking to you. We try not to waste your time and will continue the conversation for as long as you want. Who ever that woman was, she was an idiot. That kind of stuff sullies our name.

I agree with the Marijuana smoker stereotypes one hundred percent every time I see some kid stoned out of his mind in public when I can be a little stoned and function perfectly. Why do you need to get so baked you can barely talk then go out? Stupid if you ask me.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Well, hopefully our discussion here opens a few eyes as to how differences can be handled through polite yet meaningful conversation, rational thinking, lack or taming(because complete lack is pretty tough) of ego, humility in being able to admit that "Hey, that kinda makes sense." instead of all the bashing and name-calling taking place as it has around here for so long now.
 

wayno30

New Member
so whats with the i have a name u have a name god has a name too line ive heard it 3 times ???? tell my local guy to get some new stuff
 

Naminator

Member
Most modern bibles edit out "Jehovah". If you ever see the dead sea scrolls (I did once) you can find Jehovah on them. I have no idea about that local guy. Remember though, we get monthly magazines. Each month it is a different topic. The Awake! magazines are more geared towards the public with a lot of very interesting stories in them. The Watchtower is more directed towards a biblical discussion although both are based on bible teachings.

You may have heard that same line because it was a presentation that month (for that particular magazine).
 

Naminator

Member
Jah, Yahweh, YHWH and the original tetragrammaton are all the same thing in the end.

My personal belief is God has a name, Jehovah. I have seen plenty of evidence to support this and I have seen Jehovah in other bibles that are not mine. Jehovah's Witnesses used to use the King James Bible but putout a translation because the English was easier to understand (New World Translation).

God is a title. Jehovah is a name.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Jah, Yahweh, YHWH and the original tetragrammaton are all the same thing in the end.

My personal belief is God has a name, Jehovah. I have seen plenty of evidence to support this and I have seen Jehovah in other bibles that are not mine. Jehovah's Witnesses used to use the King James Bible but putout a translation because the English was easier to understand (New World Translation).

God is a title. Jehovah is a name.
Ok. i see what you're saying. i don't quite understand the Jehovah vs Yaweh thing though because by definition Jehovah is a word which was created by man yes? i have been trying to figure out what to call Him when speaking to Him because it seems as though no matter what i use in the back of my mind i keep thinking "Man gave Him that name." and it gets a little.........impersonal sometimes.
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
Ok. i see what you're saying. i don't quite understand the Jehovah vs Yaweh thing though because by definition Jehovah is a word which was created by man yes? i have been trying to figure out what to call Him when speaking to Him because it seems as though no matter what i use in the back of my mind i keep thinking "Man gave Him that name." and it gets a little.........impersonal sometimes.
no no no you've got it all wrong his name is
"the thing that made the things for which there is no known maker"
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BrotherBuz

Active Member
". . . in review of the incident had she just left when i politely asked her to do so the 1st time or even 2nd time then i would not have dropped my towel
If she had left the first time, she wouldn't have seen your hermy. Isn't this the real reason you left the police force?
 

BrotherBuz

Active Member
". . .i just had a LONG talk with my 11 year old son and explained to him that all the drama that goes on, me yelling or grounding or punishing him is brought on by his own behavior. So if he didn't want the drama he needed to modify his behavior. It's called personal responsibility. When i ask him a question or tell him to do something, he doesn't always listen. Actually today i had to repeat myself 4 x twice and 3 times once. Even when he DOES listen, he quite often doesn't HEAR what is being said. So, when i get upset for repeating myself and ground his butt from whatever happens to be his favorite thing at the time it is HIS fault. Not MY responsibility.
What does this have to do with the tea in China? :roll:
 

budlover13

King Tut
It means everyone is responsible for their own actions. If you stand in front of the police station smoking a joint, while i don't agree weed should be illegal, with the current laws, you are responsible for your own arrest. If one creates drama by their actions, they and ONLY they are responsible for the reactions they get because they wouldn't have gotten the reaction had they done nothing.

You'd be wise to learn this concept buz. If you'd like i can have my 11 year old son teach you. :)
 

BrotherBuz

Active Member
I'm friends with several and have asked repeatedly.
Hey cop, something doesn't ring true about the above statement. How can you be friends with several, yet continue have rude encounters, within the same group. Smells like a stinking "pig" somewhere.

Come to me so I can feel you!!
 

budlover13

King Tut
Hey cop, something doesn't ring true about the above statement. How can you be friends with several, yet continue have rude encounters, within the same group. Smells like a stinking "pig" somewhere.

Come to me so I can feel you!!
Oh, please DO feel me buz! Ooohhhhh yeah! Just a little faster please. Yeah yeah yeah....
 
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