Slappy's Perpetual LED Hack Discussion

Abiqua said:

vert side lighting

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I gonna do them fer sure but not right now , I sure I'll find a good price then . I got 32 3590 going in my room so that my starting point
ordered 2 more 3590 & some extra holders & reflectors
will start production in morning got some jigs to make 1st

Abiqua said:

vert side lighting

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Well yeah, but I'm running CXB3590 for that.

that was me thinking the same why buy little didn't seem like much of a advantage after all the holders & such
which is the why of a CXB3590 anyway
so I bought more 3590's lol
DHL just dropped 18 in my hands seconds ago

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QUCIQSK?psc=1

here's a simple 4 way powersupply for fan run cobs that already has sleeved wires & all black end connectors
this rated @ 2 amps

Bonjour
You can run 8 fans with this one...very cool and good price!
CU

Perro sent me to rapidled for the Cree far red stars

lookin at a red & far red light assy to build

Fastslappy said:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QUCIQSK?psc=1

here's a simple 4 way powersupply for fan run cobs that already has sleeved wires & all black end connectors
this rated @ 2 amps

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good stuff....I got tired of buying them and bought the crimping tool and connectors....1 fan 2 fan....100 fans in parallel

They actually r inefficient over a 12v mean well
I use them for Mobo testbeds or cooling my HT amps\AVR,s

Abiqua said:

I got tired of buying them and bought the crimping tool and connectors

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how do u search for those ? I'd love to pin & sleeve my own stuff
i could make jumpers to size , cleaner look

Fastslappy said:

how do u search for those ? I'd love to pin & sleeve my own stuff
i could make jumpers to size , cleaner look

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I wish I would have bought one of these ratcheting types, but you can also search for D sub crimper/ servo wire crimpers that will tell you most of the functionality....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-G-Tool-Aid-18900-Pro-Ratcheting-Terminal-Crimper-/331541653655?cmd=ViewItem&hash=item4d316c2897:g:t1gAAOSw~gRV5IEv

The header w/pins can bought just about anywhere....2.19mm everything for most fans... here are some male / female from eckbay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Pin-Female-Extension-Connector-Housing-w-Male-Pins-for-PC-Fan-Lights-Set-of-5-/151268987722?hash=item233855934a:g:NH8AAOSwymxVNad5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-3-Pin-Extension-Connector-Housing-w-Female-Pins-for-PC-Fan-Lights-Set-of-5/161275713249?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=20131003132420&meid=6aa2616d8971473486db84f48f55c558&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=151268987722

thanx i tried seaching but never could get that right term down

My head feels like 2 balloons ,
that's a bad day for me headache wise & the last two have been that way
But I did get a mock up done ,some more testing on the CPU mounts
& Most important two jigs to make my drilling simple easy & fast
One jig is for the bar & CPU cooler mount holes (i don't have to measure out just hit my marks )
& one is a block of 1/2 AL that matches the base on the coolers
covers it exactly , I've pre-drill pilot holes & then drilled to 3/32
all this lines up the cob holder exactly at the center of the cooler pad
the block will allow hand drilling , line the marks drill 1st hole then pin it & drill 2nd after checking marks

been awhile since I've had anything to post , Damn I've lost a week freaking headaches
I figured out one thing
I Had to Clean my garage 1st before any fabrication can take place
I've now cleaned it up enuff to work safely just gotta move the jointer /planner ,TS ,over by the bands saws
I had tools spread over the garage & i'd be looking for tools more than making lights
ordered some extra ideal holder from newark I miss placed one somewhere was doing some testing & laid that bitch down somewhere , stoned , smoke more dummy

here's how i'm mounting those A/C64's 1" sq tube stock they will sit on opposite sides along the bar that way no frame of AL angle
the meanies go one per bar
that's 2 sheet metal screws thru the bar into the side of the cooler about a inch into the fins will not warp the fins if done right that little ridge on the coolers let's u register the plumb on the bar makes line up easy peasy repeatable

Below is Supra's 3590 breakdown of the best set-ups
I post here because I kept looking for it share with others
& thought I'd copy it here for easy reference
as it's Not the easiest data to find on RIU

****me as a NooB vs anyother NooB when U 1st get here on RIU it's a overwhelming at times learning curve****
I like Supra's breakdown as I'm Not Math wiz but the way he lays out the #;'s Works for Me !

ALL the Credit goes to Supra this is His Data ;

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Here are some units you could scale up to fit your space. To some extent, you can adjust the coverage by adjusting the distance to canopy.

@45.7%
(2) CXB3590 3500K CD 36V @ 2.5A (91.65W ea) $95
(2) HLN-80H-36A $90
183 dissipation W -> 99.37W heat
(2) Arctic 64 Plus CPU coolers $26
(2) lenses $8
83.63 PAR W covering 5 ft² = 749 PPFD
$219 = 2.62/PAR W

@49.7%
(2) CXB3590 3500K CD 72V @ 1.05A (75.5W ea) $95
(1) HLG-185H-C1400 (running at ~1050mA) $65
151 dissipation W -> 76W heat ->
passive cooled heatsink 9120cm² -> (2) 10"X10" heatsink $75
or
active cooled heatsink 3040 cm² min -> 3.5" X 30" heatsink (for spread) $40 + 80mm fan+psu $10
or
(2) Arctic 64 Plus CPU coolers $26
(2) lenses $8
75 PAR W covering 4ft² = 840 PPFD
75 PAR W covering 5ft² = 672 PPFD
$243 = $3.24/PAR W passive cooled
$218 = $2.91/PAR W active cooled on bar heatsink
$194 = $2.59/PAR W active cooled on CPU coolers (uniform spread, best value?)

@ 56.3%
(4) CXB3590 3500K CD 36V @ 1.4A (49W ea) $190
(1) HLG-185H-C1400 $65
196 dissipation W -> 85.7W heat ->
passive cooled heatsink 10284cm² -> 5.88" X 38" heatsink $72 (could split in 2 to improve uniformity/spread)
or
active cooled heatsink 3428cm² min -> 3.5"X36" heatsink (for spread) $45 +80mm fan +psu $10
(4) lenses $16
110.3 PAR W covering 6ft² = 824 PPFD
$311 = $3.07/PAR W passive cooled (great value point IMO, very efficient use of driver)
$326 = 2.96/PAR W active cooled

@61.2%
(5) CXB3590 3500K CD 36V @ 1.05A (35.5W ea) $237.50
(1) HLG-185H-C1050 $65
177.5 dissipation W -> 68.9W heat ->
passive cooled heatsink 8268cm² -> 4.9"X36" $70
or
active cooled heatsink 2756cm² -> 3.5"X36" heatsink (for spread) $45 + 80mm fan + psu $10
(5) lenses $20
108.63 PAR W covering 6ft² =
$392.50 = $3.61/PAR W passive cooled
$377.50 = $3.48/PAR W active cooled

@64%
(8 ) CXB3590 3500K CD @ 700mA (23W ea) $380
(1) HLG-185H-C700 $65
184 dissipation W ->66W heat ->
passive cooled heatsink 7920cm² -> 4.23"X44" $68 (could split these into 2 or 4 units)
or
active cooled heatsink 2640cm² -> 3.5"X36" heatsink (for spread) $45 + 80mm fan + psu $10
active cooled heatsink 2640cm² -> 1.8"X44" heatsink $34 + 80mm fan + psu $10
(8 ) lenses $32
117.8 PAR W covering 6ft² = 879 PPFD
117.8 PAR w covering 7ft² = 754 PPFD
$545 = $4.63/PAR W passive cooled (great option if your area is high electrical cost, Hawaii, NYC, SoCal etc or if your grow is already heat limited and you want to increase yield without running more AC, ducting and fans)
$532 = $4.52/PAR W active cooled 3.5"
$521 = $4.43/PAR W active cooled 1.8"


So in summary, the higher the efficiency goes, the more appealing passive cooling is. Less wires, less moving parts, less points of failure for about the same cost.

Last edited Dec 25, 2015
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This is cut & paste from Supra's CXB3590 1500W

got my process down , be loading these up 3/32 drill bit little oil = sinking sheet metal screws an ease
run it in some back out reverse & do again till bottoms outs
USE the same screw each hole I mwas pre punching the center mark with a new thick nail & a slight tap with a hammer Nail way chaeper than a center punch
the only holes I needed a center punch for was the reflector screw as that is slightly sloped with mt coolers
that screw (shiney) is TOO long but works ,
I drill ALL the way thru the sinks that way i never bottom out the screw

setting the holders is Gonna be easy as shit over a CPU mounting , that Ideal you can feel the holder hit the sink if you hold yer finger tip in the right spot & i could repaet that with fine touch with the sheet metal screws That was a test/concern before going in , but as I state easy as hell for me
the reflector screws are not actually tighten down they just hold that refector with just light press or no pressure at all

Fastslappy said:

CXB3590-0000-000R0BDB40E

has anyone run 4000K BD bin 72v ?

CXB3590-0000-000R0BDB40E 4000K, 13000 Lumens, CXB3590, 72V

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i use the 72V 3590's at 1.05A and 1.4A.

mc130p said:

i use the 72V 3590's at 1.05A and 1.4A.

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could I run 4 each 72 v 3590's off a HLG-185-700 & they'd run @ 56% is that what I figure correct ?