Second go at first grow in new UC system

Since I put in a little less than 1ppm yesterday I went ahead and just put in 1g for 50 gallons and I have 60gallons in their so there's a buffer for safety.

Thanks man!

Plants have really perked up. Even the three stunters are showing signs of life.

I went ahead and added 2g of Epsom salt per 5 gallons so that should take me close to 50ppms of mg and I'll see how it reacts. The insteresting thing is the plant outside in coco with the same nutes and ppm have no signs of deficiency AT ALL!

shawnery said:

he insteresting thing is the plant outside in coco with the same nutes and ppm have no signs of deficiency AT ALL!

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once you get this dialed in , your results will blow away the coco plant.

Did some root pruning yesterday because I have a few girls throwing their roots down the tubes. I cut anywhere from an inch to two inches depending on how long they are. Let me tell you, there was a noticable uptick in lateral root growth in just 24hrs.

Definitely smell hints of chlorine now!

shawnery said:

Definitely smell hints of chlorine now!

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I knew something was off when you said you couldn't smell anything.

Latest pic of my best girl. How do you think they look for 3 weeks? I wish they were bigger but I am happy with how tight the nodes are and how full she appears to be. Those three bad leaves are from when she was transplanted.

is your nute solution clear? there is a bit of brown all over those roots. hard to tell if it's nute stain or something else.

Still treating!

Growing like hotcakes though.

next time you add some hth, take every net pot out and dunk it about 5 times up to the stem in your res. get that chlorine way up into the netpot. i'd hate to see all those roots go bad on you. you are almost over the hump i think.

I'm close or over the hump but I don't consider myself out of the woods till I harvest my meds! My understanding is that pathogens like pythium and other forms of root rot are opportunistic. I've read a few scholar papers on the subject and supposedly they are always present and just looking for an environment to explode in.

I've been wrong before though, many times!

I just got done reading one paper about root rot in kiwi fruit. It was stating that the number one cause of root rot is overwatering. It was also explained that root break is one of the ways that root rot gets into a plant. I'm thinking this is how I got mine seeing as I had a few roots get cut on the lid.

So much for the come back!

Been alternating treatment with hth pool shock and h2o2 for over a week now and the girls roots are now becoming black.

It's crazy that I got root rot in the first place considering I'm using a chiller and ag. Now it's crazy that I've been treating with two of the strongest sterilization techniques, I think, and my roots just keep getting worse.

Going to build a cloner today and just take a bunch of cuttings from my best girls.

Any tips or tricks I should know before doing the cloner and taking the cuts? At least this way I can finally do away with the rockwool.

that sucks. the only thing that pops out at me is the rockwool harboring something bad that the h2o2 and chlorine didn't get to. seems like everything else was a non-issue in your setup.

Cloner built.

Taking cuttings today or tomorrow based on how well the girls are doing.

Found one issue.

Bacteria is breeding in my 1" return line instead of making it to my filter. What's the best way to clean all the gunk out?

I'm going to move my filter from after the pump and cooler to before the pump and cooler. This should allow my filter to work better. I assuming the gunk in the return tube isn't recieving enough pressure to get it up 2' of tubing.

Hopefully this goes better than my undercurrent.

shawnery said:

Found one issue.

Bacteria is breeding in my 1" return line instead of making it to my filter. What's the best way to clean all the gunk out?

I'm going to move my filter from after the pump and cooler to before the pump and cooler. This should allow my filter to work better. I assuming the gunk in the return tube isn't recieving enough pressure to get it up 2' of tubing.

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I am not saying its your problem but fwiw I run a 155 mesh filter in front of the pump and chiller. It never really collects anything but a stray root and maybe a gnat larvae or two if I haven't been running enough BTI.

I would just replace the tube if you can.

5BY5LEC said:

I would just replace the tube if you can.

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The problem still remains why is, I assume, algea or/and dead root mass collecting in my return tube and no where else?

As for the mesh screen my epi is cleaner than my other system I've run without it. It collects tons of shit and I'm sure of that because I clean it weekly. Everything in the return is tube is thick enough to get stuck in the filter.

The most important questions are still why am I getting this shit and why is it not making it to my filter?

Its ghetto but its mine!

Tiny grow room!

Yes I need to clean but everything has been sterilized.

Another interesting thing I found today.

My system has been sitting stagnant with nothing running and a heafty dose of pool shock to begin the cleaning process. 3 to 4 days later I go to remove the plants and guess what. Theres more white roots and root hairs than there has been in a couple weeks with it running. STRANGE! Another thing is without any water being added to the rockwool for about a week the rockwool was as wet as wet can be.

Something has to be strange with me environment up here for rockwool to not dry out after a week of sitting out in the open.