Johnny Lawrence
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Yeah, sure genius - rely on High Times for your info. This explains so much.Saying dis 4 a while now but just gets trolled of by ppfd wankers...
#ledwankers
Wow.
Recommend $300 budget light..... For a friend
- Thread starter TurboTokes
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Wow.
That's a great option, but I would prefer the qb132s for the better coverage. I would only move into the QB288 range if I was trying to cover a 25 square feet or more. Take that with a grain of salt though because I've experienced the qb132 and I've never seen a qb288 in person. It must be impressive, that high intensity.
pulpoinspace
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haha i have never seen a qb288 @ 2.8A either i'm sure it would look really impressive. and i would agree with you about the coverage. I was just trying to find something for under $300 with the power for a 3x3. hence running as few boards as hot as possible. first example i found.
edit: just saw your suggestions to OP earlier in thread. your suggestion is a great one too. i think he would have great success no matter which boards he choses.
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maxlev
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I have 2 new qb288V2`s in a 2x4 (optimal flowering size) Not fired up yet, another month, waiting for winter to sod off.
Gave previous (dismal) 4 cob no name china to mate to assist his 6 cob no name china. He reckoned he saw god when I showed him how bright the qb`s are.
pulpoinspace
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sounds like quite the come up for your poverty stricken mate. he must be extra happy today right?! another cheap & nasty steaming pile of faeces.
hah
pulpoinspace
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yeah i built a cob light for my 4x2 veg tent and im realizing now i spent way more on that that i would have on what i'm recommending to this guy. really good deals on those boards right now.
maxlev
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nah, he spewing. He tried to grow through the winter in tent in cold garage & they didn`t fatten up. They stalled. Told him he pushing shit uphill with a pointed stick & just wasting electricity.
i started in 79 & not that silly, no point fighting it.
pulpoinspace
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might have to steal that one. bummer for him tho.
TurboTokes
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@TPTB73
I watched the assembly video and I could help handle the assembly, I'm confident soldering and making sturdy connections, it's the actual parts and ordering the correct pieces and supplies that I haven't been able to source.
I thank you for posting the product links but was confused on what exactly was being built, I am still looking for 3x3 coverage for both veg and flower with one light.
To throw another wrench into the ring I also live in Canada
Can we go through a parts list for a build of a light to rival a 600w Hid setup?
TurboTokes
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Im not positive a dimmable option is required for my mate, does that make it much harder to wire? For $50 it seems like a good option if seedlings were ever present
maxlev
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pulpoinspace
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079YY1RWV - 4 QB132 quantum boards, don't require heatsinks, $133
https://www.e-sonic.com/product-detail/mean-well/hlg320h36a.html?p=43123428&ref=OctopartFeed - $89
You can get a power cord here https://www.rapidled.com/wire-wire-management/ or anywhere for like $3
wire and wagos and a nice connector shouldnt' cost you more than $10 edit. they have those are rapid too
thats up to 280 watts fo $235 out the door
not sure if this or any LED under $300 rivals a 600w HPS tho...
one of these is what i would chose it if i had to spend less than $300 in a 3x3, but you really need more watts for that space.
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TurboTokes
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Seems like the budget allows for more light possibly if that is the cost total with DIY.
Is it when the boards need heatsinks that the price goes that much higher?? Im open to adding more wattage to the space, I just dont personally know which boards to purchase, a driver that is adaptable, and it sounds like dimming is a solid "tool" to have while growing for its cost
Ive scoured the LED indoor lighting forum and cant find a thread that lists like 15 different light setups, buy these boards, this driver, this heatsink etc. Is a list like that to lazy of me to think of? Its my friends build, he doesnt quite get how complex of a choice this is I dont think, but I know he wants his setup to outperform my 600 mh/hps.
It will be cool to compare with a friend if he takes my recomendation on what specific pieces to purchase. Do the meanwell drivers not come with a power cord normally? Is that just so people adapt to there US / UK // EU style wall plugs to be wired?
Is it when the boards need heatsinks that the price goes that much higher?? Im open to adding more wattage to the space, I just dont personally know which boards to purchase, a driver that is adaptable, and it sounds like dimming is a solid "tool" to have while growing for its cost
Ive scoured the LED indoor lighting forum and cant find a thread that lists like 15 different light setups, buy these boards, this driver, this heatsink etc. Is a list like that to lazy of me to think of? Its my friends build, he doesnt quite get how complex of a choice this is I dont think, but I know he wants his setup to outperform my 600 mh/hps.
It will be cool to compare with a friend if he takes my recomendation on what specific pieces to purchase. Do the meanwell drivers not come with a power cord normally? Is that just so people adapt to there US / UK // EU style wall plugs to be wired?
pulpoinspace
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https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/diy/products/qb288-with-slate-2-heatsink $189x2 = $378
https://power.sager.com/hlg-240h-c71750b-4172738.html?utm_source=googlemerchant&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=power-brand&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8MeP6d-R3QIVS7XACh0cBgFSEAQYASABEgJGCvD_BwE = HLG-240H-C2100B $59 x 2 = $118
few dollars for wire and wagos
for under $500 youd have a bad ass light, 411 watts, 180.77 lm/w, 2.63umols/joule
that light would perform with yours in a 3x3. this is what i would get if i needed lights for a 3x3 atm
https://power.sager.com/hlg-240h-c71750b-4172738.html?utm_source=googlemerchant&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=power-brand&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8MeP6d-R3QIVS7XACh0cBgFSEAQYASABEgJGCvD_BwE = HLG-240H-C2100B $59 x 2 = $118
few dollars for wire and wagos
for under $500 youd have a bad ass light, 411 watts, 180.77 lm/w, 2.63umols/joule
that light would perform with yours in a 3x3. this is what i would get if i needed lights for a 3x3 atm
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pulpoinspace
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you could also do a 300-400 w light with the
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb288-v2-with-slate-2-triple
and save some money, but your spread wouldnt be as good as if you did 4 boards.
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb288-v2-with-slate-2-triple
and save some money, but your spread wouldnt be as good as if you did 4 boards.
maxlev
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Meanwell drivers do not come with power cord/plug if bought on their own.
If bought as a kit, the seller will supply cord with plug etc.
I just bought 2 drivers for future builds from Taiwan with no plugs.
1 will be close to power point so fitted plug to short driver cord.
The other will be further away so fitted a spare computer cord I had using
(IP68-Waterproof-Electrical-Cable-Wire-3-Pin-Connector-Plug-Socket)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IP68-Waterproof-Electrical-Cable-Wire-2-3-Pin-Connector-Plug-Socket/202351276171
If bought as a kit, the seller will supply cord with plug etc.
I just bought 2 drivers for future builds from Taiwan with no plugs.
1 will be close to power point so fitted plug to short driver cord.
The other will be further away so fitted a spare computer cord I had using
(IP68-Waterproof-Electrical-Cable-Wire-3-Pin-Connector-Plug-Socket)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IP68-Waterproof-Electrical-Cable-Wire-2-3-Pin-Connector-Plug-Socket/202351276171
maxlev
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plenty of info under QB Project tab at
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/
guides for each of the boards, how to wire them and list of suitable drivers
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/
guides for each of the boards, how to wire them and list of suitable drivers
Sure, I will absolutely help you with a parts list. Before we start, however, since you guys are in Canada, I need to know, can you order off regular Amazon for instance? If so, I can go ahead and put links to the parts you will need, if not, I need to know how you can go about getting the particular parts that we'll need.
Just to be very clear, there is no soldering required at all. This is very very simple. The only reason he was using soldering in the video was because he was using stranded wire and he preferred to put a little bit of solder on the end of those to keep them together, but it's not necessary.
I will recommend a driver that has dimming already included. To get dimming, all we need to do is get a driver who's model number ends in the letter A. All of those have two screws for dimming, one for the voltage and one for the current.
Also, the boards I recommended do not require heat sinks which makes them very attractive and easy and cheap. Let me know how we can get the parts into Canada and then I'll put together a list for you.
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Kingrow1
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O
Your comprehension of light is very poor, ppfd is inacurate yet you derive efficiency from it.
Noob....!
Eventually science will prevail at the end of the hype, be here then.
Your comprehension of light is very poor, ppfd is inacurate yet you derive efficiency from it.
Noob....!
maxlev
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Should ppfd of a light be ignored.
Would it be better to discuss how many times a year those inefficient old tech glass tube bulbs need to be replaced
& feasibility of using the old bulbs as dildos