Quantums Overhead in Vertical Grow!

Discussion in 'Vertical Growing' started by ttystikk, Dec 23, 2016.

    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Your right it is expensive and hard to get here. I just bought 5 gallons off of Craig's list $100 lol, I just wanted people to know what there spraying on plants if they decide to
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    indianajones Well-Known Member

    Hope everything is going well with your court issues bro, best wishes and looking forward to your being back in full swing asap!
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    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Hey, thanks for the kind words! Still slogging through, no idea what the final resolution is gonna be yet. After 6 months. Crazy.
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    MMJ Dreaming 99

    MMJ Dreaming 99 Well-Known Member

    Sorry to post this in your thread but was curious to get your input. I am near Charlie the cat's area. The last couple of months a well known grow store has become more and more empty of customers. I went in there today for some tupur and the place was empty. It seems like last summer they were busy, because I was thinking with summer that indoor slows down.

    The law gets tougher in 2018.

    Are more small growers bailing? If so should street prices be increasing?
    Any buzz or ideas on what may be going on? It is very odd.
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    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    One grow store could just be going out of business or have had its clientele poached by other stores. Not a big enough sample size to spot a trend.

    I haven't seen any signs of a slowdown in terms of home grows, but the trend is towards smaller ones; the guys who want to go big already have and now it's just normal people setting up a legal no card op (12 or less) in their spare bedroom or basement.

    Those folks don't want to pay hydro store prices, so they blend in at Home Depot and the local nurseries garden shops.

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    And buying online is taking a chunk out the Hydro Store business.
    Although I do still buy from my HS, but on some of the larger orders, I will buy online due to cost savings.
    greg nr

    greg nr Well-Known Member

    Lots of things are burning their butts. LED lights are a big one. Even if they sell it, they don't sell another one to the same customer for years. You don't need a new bulb every 6 months.....

    Another is super soil. Hydro stores don't get to sell you the ingredients either because they don't carry them or price them out of sight. You just don't need any more bags of $25 ffof, and you aren't going to buy peat moss or compost from them unless they sell organic at a reasonable price.

    Super soil also cuts down on nutrient sales and gizmos like ph pens and ec meters.

    Then there is amazon. Cheaper and delivered to your door.

    Still, I like having them around. local hydro stores may be expensive, but they have what you need in a pinch and a few actually know what the products are. I'd hate to see them go away and at least try to give them business.

    But here in MA, just afterpersonal use and growing became legal, you couldn't beat the smile off their faces with a bat. They were selling complete grow ops to either complete newb's or at the very least underground closet growers. These guys were buying for multiple 10x10 spaces in one shop. I was mesmerized listening to them ask what else they needed..

    Gonna be a lot of gear on ebay soon. Also bad for hydro stores unless they buy it up at pennies on the dollar.

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Is that who's buying the Black Magic products at the Homie Diaper? lol
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    MMJ Dreaming 99

    MMJ Dreaming 99 Well-Known Member

    Ha ha. I would buy Dr. Earth before I would by Black Mon-Satan soil. That Black Magic shit is as expensive as Big Mike's shit.

    Sometimes it is worth bullshitting with people at the grow store. I knew one guy who looked like a slacker when I first went in. He would be outside vaping. He turned out to be a really funny guy, great grower and had 2 other businesses on the side. He was a real hustler in a good way. He eventually quit to work on his businesses. He made his own soil too.
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    luv2grow Well-Known Member

    And i'm just now seeing this....ffs I have some reading to do
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    calliandra Well-Known Member

    :( oh so sorry to read that you've been having this kind of drama in your life!!
    Hoping at least it gets wrapped up as painlessly as possible!

    Did they take the lights too or can you still restart the quantum board light test? :mrgreen:
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    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    They didn't take any equipment at all.

    Once the legal stuff is settled- and it's far from that at the moment- I'll be able to get up and running again.

    Six months in a holding pattern will drive anyone round the bend.
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    I was quite happy for mine to take a couple of years lol. I assume you are hoping to beat it where as I was delaying the inevitable lol.
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    My quickest was a trip to the judges house at 10:30 at night in Watertown NewYork lol. You guys have a weird justice system lol. Trooper took me to a cash machine in handcuffs so I could post bail at his house lol. Happened there were a bus load of Japanese tourist at the place all taking pics of me and the cop at the machine lol. Fuck I need to write a book lol. Sorry to digress TTY I hope you get this shit solved as painlessly as possible

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Not how it works here, by a long shot. The cops have the discretion to let you know you have a warrant so you can make arrangements- or to kick your door in. Since I've always been civil with them, they were nice enough to let me be ready to post bond and just run through the process.
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    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    In my case things are pretty uncertain, hence the stress level.
    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    What's your lawyer say

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    calliandra Well-Known Member

    Quite a challenge to keep that from clouding over your days! whew.
    I'll think of you whenever I wrangle myself from one of my own worries, sending you that lightness of being :)
    But you can still grow the 12 plants they left you in the meantime? For some solace? I do hope so!

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your kind words.

    Please understand that I am fully aware that my situation is nowhere near as dire as that of so many others. I'm utterly comfortable in the knowledge that what I do and who I am helps many and hurts no one.

    This is my life's work. I won't let legalistic thugs ruin my work. I help people. There are no victims as a consequence of my activities.

    If I must go to my grave today, I will go with a clear conscience.
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