Producing Feminised Seeds Using Colloidal Silver

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Sativus

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Very nice thread. I am about to begin this process for myself. I just wanted to ask and say a few things.
The other tutorials state that a ppm of 30 or more is needed. I sure wish you had a ppm meter to test the solution you seem to consistently make and use that works...
Others in this thread have claimed that a 15+ ppm is what that have been using and seems to be working also.
I will be making mine with a 6v 450mA charger. I intended to let it sit until a 30 ppm solution is achieved. Now, I will scrutinized it every minute after 15 ppm.
I want the solution to stay clear, and for 1 plant, 500ml would be more than enough for an every day soaking for a 14 day application beginning 3-4 days before 12/12.
Does that look about right?
And for any other fathers out there,,, did the birth of that seed a few pages back look anything like your firstborn being delivered? LOL
Thanks for this great thread m8!
Best wishes ;)
 
tet1953

tet1953

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I personally don't believe that the ppm are all that critical. People have used this method with varying power sources. The one I used was a little too powerful perhaps; it only takes about 6 hours to get a good batch with it. It even has some sediment afterward, but I just siphon off and leave that. The Tyndal test proves a good solution.
I also tried it with a less powerful (in both volts and mA) and wasn't happy with the result.
As for the end result, it just so happens that I chopped the 3 plants I grew just a few days ago. It was really just an experiment to see if they would all be fem (which they were), but the plants were amazing. Just like the mother in many regards but the buds were really nice. Lots of trichs too..better than the original I daresay. I am extremely happy with the result, and I am prepared to say the method works great.
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Sativus said:
Very nice thread. I am about to begin this process for myself. I just wanted to ask and say a few things.
The other tutorials state that a ppm of 30 or more is needed. I sure wish you had a ppm meter to test the solution you seem to consistently make and use that works...
Others in this thread have claimed that a 15+ ppm is what that have been using and seems to be working also.
I will be making mine with a 6v 450mA charger. I intended to let it sit until a 30 ppm solution is achieved. Now, I will scrutinized it every minute after 15 ppm.
I want the solution to stay clear, and for 1 plant, 500ml would be more than enough for an every day soaking for a 14 day application beginning 3-4 days before 12/12.
Does that look about right?
And for any other fathers out there,,, did the birth of that seed a few pages back look anything like your firstborn being delivered? LOL
Thanks for this great thread m8!
Best wishes ;)
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Sounds like a good plan,
15 - 30 ppm is ok. My 16v charger hits a ceiling at about 15ppm after 24 hours unless I filter the solution, clean the silver and do it again. Then it will go to nearly 30ppm. 15 ppm does not stress the plant as much.....you can probably spray it everyday with little stress. 30 ppm stresses a bit more so you may want to skip a day or two when it starts to look bad. All plants do not react the same. Some do not want to switch and will take a stronger solution and a little more time.
Mine is rarely clear....and it seems to get darker with age ...from the silver reacting to light. (like an old photograph)
I will cut my first S1s in a week or so. They are actually healthier than the clones. It seems to bring back the original hybrid vigor. I'll post some pics in a few days.
I have made 7 runs now of S1s and it has worked like a charm so far. A few weeks ago I germed some Lemon Skunk x OG 18 that I made and they look like they are going to be monsters. They went into flower yesterday.
I have had absolutely no problems with hermies but I have only finished 2 so far. ;):peace:
 
tet1953

tet1953

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EvlMunkee said:
Sounds like a good plan,
15 - 30 ppm is ok. My 16v charger hits a ceiling at about 15ppm after 24 hours unless I filter the solution, clean the silver and do it again. Then it will go to nearly 30ppm. 15 ppm does not stress the plant as much.....you can probably spray it everyday with little stress. 30 ppm stresses a bit more so you may want to skip a day or two when it starts to look bad. All plants do not react the same. Some do not want to switch and will take a stronger solution and a little more time.
Mine is rarely clear....and it seems to get darker with age ...from the silver reacting to light. (like an old photograph)
I will cut my first S1s in a week or so. They are actually healthier than the clones. It seems to bring back the original hybrid vigor. I'll post some pics in a few days.
I have made 7 runs now of S1s and it has worked like a charm so far. A few weeks ago I germed some Lemon Skunk x OG 18 that I made and they look like they are going to be monsters. They went into flower yesterday.
I have had absolutely no problems with hermies but I have only finished 2 so far. ;):peace:
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I agree EvlMunkee but you put it better :) Mine are like the original, but with more vigor. My plants were only about 2 feet tall, but no popcorn bud anywhere. Nice big dense nuggets on every branch. And lots of sugar on top :)
 
tet1953

tet1953

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Regarding the hermie comment, I am not a botanist and have only been growing for less than 2 years, but from everything I have read and my own common sense tells me that these are not hermies. I consider it a reprogramming if you will. Providing chemical instructions to the plant to do something different yet completely natural. Unlike a stress-induced change like light shock. Just my non-expert opinion.
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Hadn't really thought about it , but you're right tet, There are NO popcorn buds at all. Everything about these S1s is bigger.....big thick stems and colas that are about 25% fatter. For some reason these S1s finished about a week faster than the clones too. Not sure why that would happen...maybe because they're heathier??
I'm so happy with them that I am even thinking about not keeping mothers anymore.
 
Medshed

Medshed

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EvlMunkee said:
I'm so happy with them that I am even thinking about not keeping mothers anymore.
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Hey EvlMunkee - I've been lurking on this thread to see what kind of results you guys are getting because I'd like to do the same thing. My reasoning is that I like to run a variety of strains but am not set up to keep mothers. Your quote above just made my day! I was thinking about selfing every plant then just keep the beans from my keeper pheno. I have never seen it done and didn't know if it would work until now. I guess I'm gonna have to give it a go this run...
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Medshed said:
Hey EvlMunkee - I've been lurking on this thread to see what kind of results you guys are getting because I'd like to do the same thing. My reasoning is that I like to run a variety of strains but am not set up to keep mothers. Your quote above just made my day! I was thinking about selfing every plant then just keep the beans from my keeper pheno. I have never seen it done and didn't know if it would work until now. I guess I'm gonna have to give it a go this run...
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Yeh Medshed, the biggest advantage to me will be that I can take some time off without losing my fav genetics. I can leave for a month or 2 and not lose anything.
I'll save a clone of every new strain and if it makes the grade I can self it. Then I can use these to cross whatever I want in the future...or just keep runnin the originals.

On my last S1 run I used 2 siblings (Sour Cream) that were slightly different phenos. I'm interested in seeing what kind of phenos I get from this mix. :peace:
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Here are my first S1s. OG18 at about a week from harvest


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These are the new Lemon Skunk x OG18 fems at 24 days veg and 1 day flower. They're gonna be huge! I'll have to use bushmaster to keep em down. :peace:

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:hump: Edit: yeh I know...crappy pictures. sorry but you get the idea
 
greenesthaze

greenesthaze

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Does it have to be demineralized water or can it just be purified like aquafina or fuiji? An does it have to be a glass or can it be in a plastic cup?
 
tet1953

tet1953

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I believe that in order for the process to work, the water needs to be non-conducting, at least initially. As silver molecules are knocked off the wire or ingot or whatever, the water becomes conductive and eventually you will have a runaway whatchamacallit (sorry, I am not a chemist lol)
So, demineralized or distilled water is necessary. I would think that plastic would not work for the same reason.
 
tet1953

tet1953

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I had another thought about the plastic cup, greenesthaze. Seems to me that you could also easily get your water contaminated with particles of whatever the cup is made of, or compounds of it anyway. You obviously want to do this right or you wouldn't have asked a question. Follow G.O.D.'s instructions to the letter and it will work. Also early in the thread I posted pics of the generator I made and it was pretty easy. I can and have reused it a few times.
 
SCARHOLE

SCARHOLE

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I have had a he'll of a time reversing my Cheese.
but after 6 weeks she finally got balls.
Don't give up on em they will change eventually.
 
tet1953

tet1953

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Don't forget the Tyndall Effect test you can do to "see" if you have a good solution.

Shine a laser pen through regular tap water. You should be able to see the light passing through the water, due to metals and minerals in the water. Do the same with your demineralized or distilled water before creating the colloid, and you should not be able to see the light. Try again after the process, and voila it is there due to the silver in the water.

You may have some larger particles or sediment at the bottom of the glass. I usually do. It doesn't seem to matter, I just siphon off the clear solution.
 
Medshed

Medshed

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SCARHOLE said:
I have had a he'll of a time reversing my Cheese.
but after 6 weeks she finally got balls.
Don't give up on em they will change eventually.
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Well timed statement Scarhole. I am struggling to reverse a Jack The Ripper and thought I may be wasting my time. I'll keep after her/him now. We're just shy of 2 weeks in flower. Time to reload the spray bottle...
 
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