Police Brutality At Cereal City Compassion Club

CountGlochula said:

you sound jealous that you don't have a card or you just hate the prices, anyway you need stop hating.

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Got a Card, grow my own, would like to be able to legally help others...but because the get stoned crowd flaunts the law...I can't even take a donation of 100 an oz for my overages. It would be nice to at least break even from the growing investment. Not profit, just get something back to cover the 700 or so I spend every month on electricity, soil, bulbs, and all the other fun shit I need to grow anything worthwhile. Growing medicinal quality, takes a little more than a couple cfl's and a fan.

Here's my room... Legal Michigan room. Locked door (2 actually) Never more than 12 plants at any time (not even clones. Look at the pics and count the plants..6 in flower, 5 babies, one MOM. that's 12.) Parkinson's patient with plenty-o-med records, and card. Kinda need all the stuff to grow quality Sativa's correctly. Was expensive to set up, and maintain.

Cory and trevor said:

How come it's never me? I got the mouth on me and the nuts to use it. I doubt any of those guys could resist beating on me when I get going. Been pepper sprayed and I can talk shit thru it no problem. pray it happens to me I know I could coax out a beat down from an adrenaline junkie dickbag cop doing his thang then I'd get his badge, some press and a wad of cash from the civil and criminal suites......why is it never me?

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If it were me, I'd be polite, cooperative, and just beat them in court by showing that I WAS TOTALLY LEGITIMATE. Maybe that's why it's not me getting busted..I'm legitimate. Could it be that they are actually after the people abusing the law? How could they?

oh so are hating the doc's or are you hatin because someone can do it bigger and better then you.and that small setup does not run 700 a month and if it does you need to stop pouring your nutes down the drain and pay attention next time your feeding your plant's.don't feel bad though your not the only one that don't like comp.

CountGlochula said:

oh so are hating the doc's or are you hatin because someone can do it bigger and better then you.and that small setup does not run 700 a month and if it does you need to stop pouring your nutes down the drain and pay attention next time your feeding your plant's.don't feel bad though your not the only one that don't like comp.

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I don't hate anybody..For 12 plants, I don't think anyone is "bigger or better". "Care Givers" with higher legal plant counts may be "bigger", but defiantly not better. The "bigger" guys all smoke mine on this side of the State...well, at least those I have enough for.

Oh, I grow organic, so no expensive "nutes", and they only drink water..so that's not the 700 a month. But 2900kwh's is about 400 a month. And when ya need new soil, pots, bulbs all the time..well maybe 600 a month..ok got me.

Are you one of those guys I saw at the grow shop yesterday? The 3 rough looking guys with tat's, flashing a ghetto wad of of 100's, buying 5 grand worth of equipment...yeah, they looked like legal care givers...Even if they can have 60 plants..what are they gonna do with all that overage?? ARE THIER 5 PATIENTS GONNA SMOKE IT all?...

Cory and trevor said:

How come it's never me? I got the mouth on me and the nuts to use it. I doubt any of those guys could resist beating on me when I get going. Been pepper sprayed and I can talk shit thru it no problem. pray it happens to me I know I could coax out a beat down from an adrenaline junkie dickbag cop doing his thang then I'd get his badge, some press and a wad of cash from the civil and criminal suites......why is it never me?

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Do you belt up your pants from around your lower ass cheeks when you start resisting? I mean most wiggers don't but you sound like a feisty one.

wow what a bunch of BROKE ass racist hicks.I I I CAN'T AFFFFOORRD MY MY "MEDECINE" BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY WHERE I CAN'T TELL AN INDIVUAL WHAT TO SELL HIS/HER PRODUCT FOR BOO HOO. CAREGIVER'S SHOULD BE DOING THIS FOR FREE FOR F F F FREEEEEEE.is that your normal daily rant.

bob harris said:

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Got a Card, grow my own, would like to be able to legally help others...but because the get stoned crowd flaunts the law...I can't even take a donation of 100 an oz for my overages. It would be nice to at least break even from the growing investment. Not profit, just get something back to cover the 700 or so I spend every month on electricity, soil, bulbs, and all the other fun shit I need to grow anything worthwhile. Growing medicinal quality, takes a little more than a couple cfl's and a fan.

Here's my room... Legal Michigan room. Locked door (2 actually) Never more than 12 plants at any time (not even clones. Look at the pics and count the plants..6 in flower, 5 babies, one MOM. that's 12.) Parkinson's patient with plenty-o-med records, and card. Kinda need all the stuff to grow quality Sativa's correctly. Was expensive to set up, and maintain. View attachment 1831554View attachment 1831555View attachment 1831556View attachment 1831557

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$700 a month? LOL.... If you are just growing for yourself and spending $700 a month you are seriously fucking up somewhere...

yeah he need's to recover his "research" cost's.his hour in front of his pc reading other people's clinical studies.

stumpjumper said:

$700 a month? LOL.... If you are just growing for yourself and spending $700 a month you are seriously fucking up somewhere...

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Nope..just growing medical grade, organic cannabis. What are you using for lighting, temp control etc? CFL's?
Sativa's require high light, co2, temp control and all the other goodies to grow well. Planting Jack Herrer seeds doesn't assure you'll grow the kind of Jack Herrer that wins cannabis cups.

If you want to maximize ANY strain, you have to find the correct phenotype within the strain. (In Jack Herrer, that's the #4 pheno) Then you have to provide optimal growing conditions and care.

Quality comes from the hand of the grower...not the pack of seeds.

Any cannabis is in demand in the current market, and most of it is swag (like yours, I'm sure)

bob harris said:

Nope..just growing medical grade, organic cannabis. What are you using for lighting, temp control etc? CFL's?
Sativa's require high light, co2, temp control and all the other goodies to grow well. Planting Jack Herrer seeds doesn't assure you'll grow the kind of Jack Herrer that wins cannabis cups.

If you want to maximize ANY strain, you have to find the correct phenotype within the strain. (In Jack Herrer, that's the #4 pheno) Then you have to provide optimal growing conditions and care.

Quality comes from the hand of the grower...not the pack of seeds.

Any cannabis is in demand in the current market, and most of it is swag (like yours, I'm sure)

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Yep, Pure Swag. The best thing about growing the Swag is it only costs me about $40 a month. I can understand why you are bitter paying $700 and all.... Especially trying to isolate a particular strain out of how many?? I actually started with stable "swag" genetics.

Hey. if you ever get tired of chasing that pheno and spending all that money, I'll sign you up as a patient and hook you up with meds of equal quality for a lot cheaper than $700 a month.

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Yep, Pure Swag. The best thing about growing the Swag is it only costs me about $40 a month. I can understand why you are bitter paying $700 and all.... Especially trying to isolate a particular strain out of how many?? I actually started with stable "swag" genetics.

Hey. if you ever get tired of chasing that pheno and spending all that money, I'll sign you up as a patient and hook you up with meds of equal quality for a lot cheaper than $700 a month.

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Got any THC/THCV/CBD/CBN ratios for those fine pictures you pulled off the web....or do ya got no clue? What's the medicinal value of your grow? How do I know it's equal quality?

I grow a specific strain, to obtain a specific chemical make up, to treat a specific medical condition.

What does your strain help medically, and how can you quantify it? I've had mine lab analyzed, have you? If you did, do you understand how the ratio's of cannabanoids affect the way your "medicine" works?

Look at the forum you're in. It's about MEDICAL mj...to me it sounds as if you just grow "weed' to get "stoned"...big difference between medical grade cannabis and "weed'

Any cannabis will get you "high' or "stoned", the idea of medical mj is to treat specific disorders. Chronic pain is the easiest to treat..heavy stone indica with huge cbd values....but even then, shouldn't you know what your cdb levels are? Even in a pain med grow, wouldn't you want to minimize the sleepy couchlock effect to improve quality of life for the patient?

I get it, you figure a "care giver' shouldn't CARE about their patients needs.On top of that , patients should pay through the nose to get meds..There goes the GIVER part...

If ya don't care, and you don't give...how can you call yourself a CARE GIVER?

bob harris said:

Got any THC/THCV/CBD/CBN ratios for those fine pictures....or do ya got no clue? What's the medicinal value of your grow? How do I know it's equal quality?

I grow a specific strain, to obtain a specific chemical make up, to treat a specific medical condition.

What does your strain help medically, and how can you quantify it? I've had mine lab analyzed, have you? If you did, do you understand how the ratio's of cannabanoids affect the way your "medicine" works?

Look at the forum you're in. It's about MEDICAL mj...to me it sounds as if you just grow "weed' to get "stoned"...big difference between medical grade cannabis and "weed'

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boB, You don't mind if I spell your name backwards do you? I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you about who's is better. Unlike you I will not make any assumptions about your conditions or your "need for specific chemical makeups".. Just to enlighten you a little, I don't enjoy "getting stoned" much at all.

Enjoy your $700 a month ball and chain because that is what I would consider it if I had to spend that much to grow MEDICINE (or swag if you want to call it that) that works for me. Like I said, I see why you are bitter. You are either lying or growing way more than you need for "just yourself".

**edit** or maybe you just aren't that good at math?

And I DON'T call myself a caregiver Bob.. Never claimed to be. If I was a "caregiver" I could very easily supply my patients with QUALITY meds that meet their requirements and not have to charge them more than $100 an Oz to make back my costs. In fact I would probably still be profiting on $100 an oz unless I wanted to pro-rate my equipment and figure my worth an hour to be $20 an hour or some crazy figure.

I would really like to see a breakdown of your monthly expenses vs your equipment for you "personal" grow. I wasn't trying to start a battle with you, I was trying to point out that you are spending way too much a month to be just growing for yourself.

stumpjumper said:

boB, You don't mind if I spell your name backwards do you? I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you about who's is better. Unlike you I will not make any assumptions about your conditions or your "need for specific chemical makeups".. Just to enlighten you a little, I don't enjoy "getting stoned" much at all.

Enjoy your $700 a month ball and chain because that is what I would consider it if I had to spend that much to grow MEDICINE (or swag if you want to call it that) that works for me. Like I said, I see why you are bitter. You are either lying or growing way more than you need for "just yourself".

**edit** or maybe you just aren't that good at math?

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I am a little bitter...mostly about the abuse of the medical law by people with no real medical condition, parading as "patients", and "caregivers" maximizing yield for profit.

I would like to see cannabis totally legalized. The first step was voted in. Medical use. Not medical abuse.

The current abuse of the law that was passed, only serves to get the law repealed (or tightened to the point of impossible compliance) there by hurting the true patients. That's what makes me bitter.

bob harris said:

I get it, you figure a "care giver' shouldn't CARE about their patients needs.On top of that , patients should pay through the nose to get meds..There goes the GIVER part...

If ya don't care, and you don't give...how can you call yourself a CARE GIVER?

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AND.... if anyone is going to be a shitty caregiver and charge out the nose... It's the guys that make up unbelievable exaggerated expenses so they can justify charging their patients $300-$400 an Oz. How much would your Oz's be with a $700 a month expense?

If I was spending $700 a month I would probably be harvesting somewhere around 14 lbs a harvest. I guess I could still go cheap

But I didn't drink the water.

Now I live in Californica, I am legal, I grow and provide medicine to those who cannot grow.

Imagine that. There are people who can't grow.

But I only grow a pound at a time (3 months) of the Dankest of the Dank.

I wonder how much it cost me?

Probably less than $200, as I already own the equipment.

Sorry to hear about the cops messing with people.

For $700 a month I could run 10 600w plus have left over for my environmentals and nutrients. I use the KISS method so even running 10 lights @ 6 plants per light I think I could get through a grow with about $16 in nutes...

There would be no other expenses for me.. I don't count my time. So, my point is.. $700 a month is pretty fucking big for a PERSONAL GROW>...

"As I spoke with Maggie Perrin owner of the Cereal City Compassion Club, I couldn’t help but notice the abundance of tears that spilled down her cheeks and onto the floor. She returned to the most terrifying parts of the story over and over. Sometimes fading off with a look of terror on her face as she described the mayhem. I found myself sickened at the details of the raid."

Anyone that opens a pot shop anywhere in the Country to either just help patients or to just make money or for both to help and make money
knows going into or being in that type of business they are not immune of a raid from either local law enforcement or DEA. Even patience
know or should know it IS a risk to walk into any pot shop. All of us can say "Raids should not happen" and "Man, that raid is totally fucked up" but 'I'm sure most know very well they do happen and probably will continue. All I know is that if I went to get meds at a pot shop
and it got raided I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Maybe a little frazzled but not ignorant that's for sure.

Sad shit......

i agree with bob-

giving is a relative term any way.

the real problem is, as i said earlier. i'm fuckin nuts.

so when i have to go back to being illegal, caused by a bunch of noobs, that never put any effort into any thing but SMOKING pot. no growing, no dealing, no risk, and all of a sudden they are the shot callers. bullshit. most have and always will fit into the rummy category. just enough brain to be dangerous.

anyway, when all the greed and bullshit ruins the law for me, i'll want vengeance.

Vendetta!

LEGALIZE!