Please help week 4 veg - expert help much appreciated

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Hi, I'm on my first grow and would like to know if you guys think my babies are ready for flower, and whether they look healthy or not. Plus if you see anything that would benefit me by changing please let me no.

Snapshot_20120428_1.JPGSnapshot_20120428_2.JPGSnapshot_20120428_3.JPG



I topped one at the 6th node and I have two of what looks like main colas, am I correct in saying that?


Snapshot_20120428_5.JPG
Here's the next batch, you see anything wrong? They are 1 week old

Snapshot_20120428_4.JPG

And finally what you think of my set-up? Missing anything?

Snapshot_20120428.JPG
 

sworth

Well-Known Member
They look ready to go. Can't tell if there is any yellowing in the bottom leaves (which would likely be too much/little nutes)
Keep an eye on water with those pots, especially when she takes off when flowering.
Good job!
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Thanks, yes yellowing at the bottom but this doesn't improve when I feed? They all have yellowing leaves at the bottom but I give a full feed now with plenty of N so not sure why? All the leaves above are a good healthy colour apart from the odd burn when they grown to fast at night and didn't have chance to move the light
 

sworth

Well-Known Member
The yellowing won't turn green again, it just won't get any worse if you've corrected the problem. When she flowers she'll double in size and consequently get a lot more hungry, so I'd get confident about nute levels before flowering.
(Or I'd think "Fuck it!" and just go for it...but that kind of advice ain't no good! hahaaargh!)
 

grandpa 1949

Well-Known Member
Your plants look healthy to me. I would not worry about the yellowing leaves at the bottom, this happen. They die off from time to time. Mostly at the end. I try to keep my leaves facing up, yours are facing down.

Here is a photo of a pre flower photo I could find of one of mine. Just look how the leaves are pointing up. This is what you shoot for.
How's your watering? To much, to little? What kind of lighting are you using?
Please don't get me wrong your plants look great just trying to help you tweak!
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Yeah thanks for your reply I want them as healthy as possible obviously before flower, They are in new pots only changed them few days ago and since then they have been purking up but I fed heavy two days ago and give them a small top up this morning. I Give them half a ltr each when I water?

And im using a 600w HPS
 

smoke and coke

Well-Known Member
i would wait at least another week before flower since you just transplanted to bigger pots.
its hard to tell the color of the plants under an hps light. how close is the light? and whats your temps. and humidity?
 

grandpa 1949

Well-Known Member
Do you know the lift method of watering? It will be hard to do on you air pots but here goes:
The "lift the pot" method is a widely practiced, and very accurate method of knowing when to water your container plants.

The best way imho, to know when soil grown potted plants need more watering is by checking how heavy the pots feel. This method is very simple to learn once you get the feel for how light a ready for watering pot of soil feels.

Get an equal size pot and fill it with your soil. The medium should be about as moist as a new bag of potting soil. Use this planter as a learning tool to get a rough idea of how much the pots should weigh before watering again. The pots with your plants will feel only just slightly heavier when the soil is ready for more water. Pick up one of your planted pots, if its noticeably heavy, do not water it until it feels "light". Next time you water a planter, pick it up and feel how much heavier it feels compared to the sample pot of soil.

It only takes a few times picking up the pots until this skill is like a "second nature" to you. You wont even need the sample pot after you get accustomed to the lifting method.

Sure your plants are always putting on more weight as they grow larger, but once you're proficient at lifting the pots, you'll also know how to compensate for the weight of the plants with ease.

I dont know how to better explain this method of knowing when to water, but believe me, anyone who learns this method, will always know when its time to water.
This is old school that has carried over to new school!
600watts should be ok, but you might think about 1k next time. 1,000watt might be better
I guessing how many plants you have, 8?


 

grandpa 1949

Well-Known Member
Is this your first grow with the air pots? I would be curious to find out when the grow is over and you empty the pot to find out how the roots did?
 

F A B

New Member
Thanks, yes yellowing at the bottom but this doesn't improve when I feed? They all have yellowing leaves at the bottom but I give a full feed now with plenty of N so not sure why? All the leaves above are a good healthy colour apart from the odd burn when they grown to fast at night and didn't have chance to move the light
sounds like to much N
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
I was feeding very lightly half strength I think the problem was my pots was to small which meant the plant couldn't get the nutes I was feeding or took to much? one or the other
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
My temps are bob on and my humidity ranges from 35%-60% on watering day. PH is always 6.7-7.0, and I am on full strength feed now, 1ml grow 2ml bloom 1ml topmax per litre. From the Bio-Bizz range.
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Yeah just what I was looking for, any advice is great since i'm a first timer. I do think I am doing ok tho, Fingers crossed they are all female btw I have 5 mature plants (4wk) and 6 younger ones (1wk)
 

cannofbliss

Well-Known Member
other than they are a little bit thirsty... they look absolutely fantastic... very good genetics btw... which hybrids did you choose btw??? ;)

when using airpots your soil will dry out faster, regardless of the "patented" shape of the outer cones or holes...

for the "exhaust" you need to have hot air moving out of the room, or if cant expel air you need to allow for cool air to enter the room...

an oscillating fan should be positioned to where it blows the hot air off of the tops of the plants... your fan looks like it is in the position where it is on top only is blowing heat down onto the plants... as opposed how it should be blowing cooler air from either across evenly over the tops or from the bottom up, to blow cooler air towards the top so the heat/cold air circulation can occur...

so be sure if low humidity is happening where it gets under, say 30%... the soil will be that much more prone to having the moisture wicked out of it that much faster...

so if you see them start to droop after the soil seems dry and the pot is light (like grandpa1969 said about the "lift" method) just soak, let droop a little and repeat ;)

good luck and enjoy the grow :)
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
They are bagseed, my little one week old ones are exodus cheese and lemoneese. They are growing much faster than the bagseed, but both now seem to be doing well. I think most part is down to the grower and not so much the strain, I topped one of the plants tho and its doing fantastic, lets hope that one's female because I will have 2 colas :D
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Depends on drainage as there is plenty of air available I used less perlite and it seems to hold water well enough probs same as before with regular pots but with bigger dosses of water. Very happy so far, Cant wait to see root development. Will be posting all progress in my airpots thread (Link above), there are a few other guys using airpots, just waiting for pic updates etc.
 

F A B

New Member
Depends on drainage as there is plenty of air available I used less perlite and it seems to hold water well enough probs same as before with regular pots but with bigger dosses of water. Very happy so far, Cant wait to see root development. Will be posting all progress in my airpots thread (Link above), there are a few other guys using airpots, just waiting for pic updates etc.
i use the same lifting method as grandpa recommend it is best way better then the stick you finger in dirt method and keeps u from getting dirty fingers
 
Top