Please..anyone..help!!..i think she's dying!

Things are looking bettershe's starting to bush out more from what i see,when do you think you should water her again,remember to check how dry the soil is,if she feels dry & you feel like you need to water her then lets give her the 1st feeding as well.

Mix the sensi grow very well with water that is grow room temp,mix a 3/4 teaspoon of the sensi grow with one gallon of water,this should give you a 300 parts per million mixture which is very weak,you want to start out fertilizing very weak & work your way up to full strength very slowly so 300 ppm is very safe to start with.

Make sure you shake or stir the fertilizer water very thouroughly & for a few minutes,this will ensure a high oxygen content in the water,when you water be sure not to spill any onm the leaves,then soak the soil until water runs freely from the bottom of the pot.

As for the fans i leave fans blowing on my plants 24/7,even at night,unless your grow area is air tight i doubt there is a suffocation problem going on,i think you got off to a rough start from the issues we allready covered & that you've corrected,it takes a few weeks to heal all the damage & get growth back on track after a plant becomes distressed.

When its lights out for the plant try 7 keep the temp in the low 70 degree mark,if you can set the temp at 72 degrees to 74 degrees it'll be perfect,keep the fan blowing on the plants gently as well.

Yeah, I was wrong before about her still being moist around the stem. It just looked moist because the soil is darker around the stem, being from the old soil and all. I didn't want to risk damaging the roots so when I had transplanted a week back or so(cant remember exactly), I transplanted the whole plant, old dirt and all, into the pot she is in now. She's totally dry now watering is indeed in order. 3/4 of a teaspoon of both, the Sensi Grow A and B right? 3/4th teaspoon of each? I'll put the smaller fan to blow on her at night from now on. Here's some better picks of the actual damage I was talking about seeing...

..before watering...

... mixed 3/4 tsp of each Sensi Grow A and Sensi Grow B. Hope that was right. I'm about to put her to bed now. Hope I did it right

Mistasmoke said:

... mixed 3/4 tsp of each Sensi Grow A and Sensi Grow B. Hope that was right. I'm about to put her to bed now. Hope I did it right

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Yup,you got it right,she should love the food you gave her.

Hey Panhead,
Well, here she is. I'm just worried about one side of the plant not bushing out like the other three sides. Check the pics to see what I mean. She looks kinda like an amputated patient. Is that something to worry about? Also, the leaves are still curling somewhat but like you said about her being sick, it'll probably take a while to see significant change I suppose. Ohter than that, I think she's looks good. I'm just wondering when to water again and if with or without nutes. So what's next?

how does she look?...

...pics of the day. Notice on the left side of the second pic to see what I meant about it looks like a missing appendage. So do I feed her tonight? Is so with regular water? A whole gallon to clean the soil from the nutes from yesterday? I'm assuming it's something like that but I want to make sure with you because I dont want to mess anything up...

A gallon is going to be very excessive,all you need is to use clean ph'ed water until it flows freely from the drain holes.

Be sure the soil is as dry as a bone since you just watered her the other day,not just the top eityher,be sure to dig in there a little bit to check wettness,it wont hurt the roots at all,i would think its still too early to water at this point.


The plant does look a little uneven but it happens & isnt anything to worry about.

.. yeah, I did notice last night that she was still moist on the top. Therefore I forewent checking inside the soil and assumed she had plenty of water still. My main concern was having her soaked with the nute solution still and I just thought I was supposed to rinse her soil off with the gallon of water. I just went ahead and put her to sleep with no watering since she was moist still and I didn't want to risk hurting her. So don't water until shes completely bone dry then? And if so, with regular ph balanced water this time like you said right? How about the next feeding? Will it be with the nute solution? Same strength or more? I just want to verify what I already suspect is true, I'm supposed to alternate between nutrient water and reg. ph. water from now on whenever she needs feeding, am I correct? I know you'll probably answer all this in order as it needs to be told to me, I just waned to make sure that my thoughts are on the right path. Also, I nothiced her leaves looked more perky, not so droopy like they had been for a while now. Alot better looking a least to my unprofessional eye. I could be way off so you be the judge. Maybe she's starting to fell better. Hope so. So what do you think?

...I noticed her leaves started to really perk up even more so later on today. I also noticed some dark green start to come in on some of the middle upper leaves. Not too many though but I'm worried about it being any type of nute deficiency or poisoning. Other than that I'm seeing positive results, again from the eye of a rookie so do whith that what you will. Also, I includes a mini movie so you could give me your opinion on whether she's being blown around the correct way and that I'm not over doing it. Enjoy...

... don't know what style is better for you to be able to make a proper assessment so I just take both types although the no light pics don't ever seem to come out right...

Mistasmoke said:

.. yeah, I did notice last night that she was still moist on the top. Therefore I forewent checking inside the soil and assumed she had plenty of water still. My main concern was having her soaked with the nute solution still and I just thought I was supposed to rinse her soil off with the gallon of water. I just went ahead and put her to sleep with no watering since she was moist still and I didn't want to risk hurting her. So don't water until shes completely bone dry then? And if so, with regular ph balanced water this time like you said right? How about the next feeding? Will it be with the nute solution? Same strength or more? I just want to verify what I already suspect is true, I'm supposed to alternate between nutrient water and reg. ph. water from now on whenever she needs feeding, am I correct? I know you'll probably answer all this in order as it needs to be told to me, I just waned to make sure that my thoughts are on the right path. Also, I nothiced her leaves looked more perky, not so droopy like they had been for a while now. Alot better looking a least to my unprofessional eye. I could be way off so you be the judge. Maybe she's starting to fell better. Hope so. So what do you think?

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Aside from the droping leaves i think all looks well,the more the leaves stay droopy the more im convinced that over watering is still an issue,let her go without any water for a few more days,if im correct her leaves will start to stand up more after 2 to 3 more days,dont worry about underwatering her,if that becomes the case its a 5 minute fix & she will correct herself within few hours of watering,still im begenning to be very sure were still watering her too often,when the leaf structure stays full of water they tend to droop.

After you fertilize the plant there is no need to flush the soil with one gallon of water,the only time flushing is needed is when there is nute lockout & your plant is not suffering nutrient lock out,i like to feed my plants fertilizer every third watering until they are in heavy bud,then i switch to every other watering.

You do not want to increase fertilizer strength just yet,let her have another feeding at the same strength when its time to feed again,increasing strength too soon can put you back to square one,after she gets another feeding at the same strength then we will increase the ratio to 50% strength & feed her a few times at that level before increasing again.

Are you still ph'ing the water after you mix the fertilizer in it like we talked about earlier,it is very important to watch ph levels after fertilizer is added to the water,the fertilizer can raise/lower ph levels drastically.

... but I think I misread or didn't read the post correctly about balancing the ph. I thought it was before adding the nutes that the ph was supposed to be between 6.5 and 7. Hopefully since it was a weak dose each time it wont affect her but I'll be sure to check the ph and lower and raise it accordingly with the ph up and down liquid I got after I add the nutes from now on. Maybe that's part of the problem? Thanks and goodnight my friend, I'll have another update tomorrow when I'm sure she'll need watering...

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... but I think I misread or didn't read the post correctly about balancing the ph. I thought it was before adding the nutes that the ph was supposed to be between 6.5 and 7. Hopefully since it was a weak dose each time it wont affect her but I'll be sure to check the ph and lower and raise it accordingly with the ph up and down liquid I got after I add the nutes from now on. Maybe that's part of the problem? Thanks and goodnight my friend, I'll have another update tomorrow when I'm sure she'll need watering...

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We got derailed somehow about the ph,it should be checked after the nutes are mixed & let to sstand in the water for a while,asdding nutes changes the ph levels every time.

... but she's actually looking better. I noticed some leaves that we're previously curling actually straightened out a bit. Now as far as watering goes, I felt an inch down and to me it feels dry but my wife checked it also and said the soil was more compact an inch down, and felt kinda moist still. We both agreed that the soil at the top was nice and dry, really loose too. Not the case so much an inch down. So I'm leaning toward giving her a feeding maybe tomorrow? You of course have the final say so since we're both rookies here so... And check the pics closely because even though she looks better, more leaves, though not many, are starting to show tiny yellow specks and about 4 or 5 of the middle tier leaves are really really green and about 4 or 5 have what appear to be almost black stripes. Sorry I can't give a better description but hopefully you'll see what I mean. That's it for today. Hopefully you'll be able to assess if she needs water or not tomorrow. PH balanced after the nutes are added of course. I wont forget from now on I promise. Have a great night my friend!

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She's looking better & has fantastic node grouping,the extremely tight nodes will make for huge bud growth in the last 4 weeks of budding,you are off to a fantastic start with that plant,for a first time grow the node spacing is perfect & better than 99% of the 1st time grows we see here,this is an accomplishment in itself.

The reason you dig down an inch in the soil is to gauge wettness,remember this,the farther down in the soil you probe the more moisture the soil holds,at the bottom of the pots is where the over watering problem lies,if this soil on the bottom never dries out it will cause all the problems we've discussed.

The constant droop of the leaves is my only concern about your plant at this point,she looks to be in excellent health with near perfecr color to her leaves,its that damm droop i cant get out of my head,i still think over watering may be the last issue you need to correct.

When a plant is in perfect health its leaves will point upwards,allmost like small hands reaching for the sun,once you see it in a plant you'll know what your seeing,for me that raised hands look to the leaves has allways been my indicator of perfect watering conditions.

Look at the leaves in this plant in the pic,its a picture a moderator here took of his outdoor grow,i thought it so beautiful that i asked permission to have it enlarged & framed,it now resides in my music room,notice how most of the leaves point in an upward way that appears to be a 45 degree angle, with no droop to the leaves,this is what we are striving for.

The perfect example pic.



Also note the angle of the leaves in this pic below,the pic is my current grow,see how they are reaching upwards as well,look at the leaves directly under the fan,once we get the watering down pat your leaves will/should hold the same pattern.



Also your plant is not using alot of nutrients still so we need to take it slow with fertilizer,stay on the every 3rd watering feeding schedule,two waterings with plain ph'ed water then one feeding with reduced strength fertilizer in ph'ed water at room temp,remember that under feeding is much prefered to over feeding & something that is going to take you a few grows to get perfecr,as long as you alllways remember that under feeding is quickly & permqanently corrected with foliar spray & feeding with water it takes away most the concerns about not feeding her enough.

We might have to start trying different watering cycles to get those leaves up in the air,they still appear to me as if they are holding too much water in their structure,that makes them heavy.

How many days has it been between waterings at this point ?

Also how far away is your light & what is the temp at the canopy of the plant,your using t-5's if i remember rightly ?

If temps are ok we want to start getting the light as close as possible,when you change to 12/12 light cycle the light needs to be right on top the plant,as close as temps will allow,this creates dense thick hard buds so we want the plant used to max lumens before 12/12 is stsrted.