Plant Nutrition and Sugary Supplements

jesters missus

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Nutrition


The methods and processes carried out by a plant/animal to gather and utilize food for growth, development and tissue replacement is referred to as nutrition.

In plant nutrition there are many interrelationships between ALL the elements in your medium and fertilizer that creates an intricate balance that is “essential” to attain optimum growth.

In 1939 Arnon and Stout devised and proposed a set of three criteria to decide whether or not an element is considered “essential” to a plant.

1.A plant must be unable to complete its lifecycle in the absence of the mineral element.

2.The function of the element must not be replaceable by another element.

3.The element must be directly involved in plant metabolism.

If an element can replace or compensate for the negative effect and consequences of other elements then it is considered to be “beneficial”.


Let’s take a look at the “essential” elements.

The first three “essential” elements are quite obviously carbon, hydrogen and oxygen, which are readily available in our air and the water you apply to your plants.

Nitrogen (N) – Plays the biggest role in vegetative growth in all plants, as we all know, and is also a major component in proteins, hormones, chlorophyll, vitamins and nucleic acid.

Phosphorus (P) – Is a component of the genetic makeup of life, RNA and DNA and is it is therefore essential for bud formation, along with many other things like metabolism, growth, germination, rooting, photosynthesis and protein synthesis.

Potassium (K) – Is the activator of many photosynthesis and respiratory enzymes and is a vital component in several of a plant’s processes like cell division and phloem transport. It is also required for sugars and carbohydrates (more sugars=more energy=optimum growth). Potassium improves cold hardiness, stem rigidity, water balance and bud flavour.

Calcium (Ca) – Is also an enzyme activator and a component of plant processes. It is a structural component of cell walls, it helps to regulate the movement of water in and out of cells and also plays a part in cell division.

Magnesium (Mg) –Is essential to plants in so many ways. From germination to budding, to the functions and activations of many enzymes to produce sugars, carbs, fats and proteins all rely on magnesium.

Sulfur (S) – Yet another major structural component of many vitamins, amino acids, enzymes and proteins. It is also necessary for respiratory functions and lipid metabolism.

Boron (B) – Affects at least 16 functions of a plant, including pollen germination, calcium uptake, budding, movement of hormones and root growth.

Chlorine (Cl) – Essential to the movement of water and its solutes in and out of cells, cell division and stomata activity.

Copper (Cu) – A component to many enzymes and biological proteins and is required for processes such as photosynthesis, respiration and several metabolisms.

Iron (Fe) – Structural and enzymatic protein component that is essential for major processes in a plant like photosynthesis, respiration, biosynthesis, electron transport and metabolism.

Manganese (Mn) – Is required for photosynthetic evolution of oxygen, and metabolism.

Zinc (Zn) – Structural component and cofactor in enzymes and is needed for metabolism, DNA replication, protein synthesis and gene expression, along with others.

Nickel (Ni) – Vital to the break down of urea into useable forms of nitrogen, germination and the functions of some enzymes.

Molybdenum (Mo) – Structural component of biologically important enzymes.

Sodium (Na) – Needed for water movement and ionic balance.

Silicon (Si) – Component of cell walls, increases weather tolerance and stimulates a natural defense process.

Cobalt (Co) – Essential for nitrogen fixation.

Sugary Supplements.

There is a lot on controversy on adding sugary supplements like molasses to your plant like that “it’s a cheap-skate’s way of making the buds weigh more at harvest”.. This is true, however, not for the reason the many people are misconceded with.

Plants need sugars to live; sugar=energy.

They produce their own sugars all the time to use as energy for growth and all the various functions that a plants needs to carry out in order to survive.


They do this by using inorganic compounds and light: Photosynthesis. The products of photosynthesis are glucose, a simple sugar and oxygen. Another way that a plant creates its own sugars is by way of carbon fixation.

A plant then uses these sugars as energy (or food) to carry out the functions and processes that it needs to.

This is all very energy consuming, therefore a plant’s energy for growth and development is decreased because it’s being used to make those sugars.

This is why adding a sugar supplement to you plant will make your harvest weight more: because your plant has received sufficient sugars to use as energy to carry out all functions in order to achieve optimum growth.


All my own words. Info gathered from MY Magazine :D

-Peace:bigjoint:
Hope this helps some newbs and refreshes some old timers!

 

Jester88

Well-Known Member
bump....

but i still dont like the mollases idea babe..

use can smoke your beloved sugar weight buds ill be fine.... oh good luck with mold and pests too
 

Snowchild

Active Member
Greetings Jesters missus,

Have you ever heard of eggshells being used as a Calcium supplement? Finely crushed and sprinkled onto the soil. Any thoughts?

Peace
 

Jester88

Well-Known Member
maybe in a compost and that means it would need to be done prior :(...

ive heard of people using milk,, me personally tho id just go buy some calcium and use a little bit of that

you can get packs from most garden stores that contain most of these in little single packs... meaning one pack for each different one
 

armlengthbuds

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and it seems you have a very scientific opinion about things. As a 10 year grower, i'm lovin the fact that there are people like you laying it out there!! Kudo's and i hope you take accept my friend invite. I'm new to RIU but not to farming. So maybe we can share in this love affair. And I mean that circumstantially. lol
 

armlengthbuds

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what does patchy lighter green areas on leafs mean?????
Without seeing pics, it's hard to guess, because in the next couple of days those lighter green areas could be more ofa yellow area. And depending if they are on the bottom leaves or top leaves, the sides, tops, etc., can help me figure out the proper diagnosis. No I'm no doctor! haha! Are any of your stems red or a red hue? Folierly speaking? How big is the discoloration in proportion to the single leaf? Holla back at me...

Armlength= A.L.
 

HERBAL ADDICT

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yea i just started getting some red leaf vaines and redish leaf stalks the lighter green bits are still the same colour not yellowing. the problem leafs are on the top50% ov the plant. they only 3 weeks old and not much nutes yet,hardly any infact. the lighter green shapes on leafs are only on a couple ov leafs, some leafs ere slightly curling down on 1 plant and some on another plant are cupped up a bit .
all ov my leafs feel a bit papery to touch but they doing well in terms ov growth just unsure of the health.
im growing feminised big buddha g-bomb a relitively new strain from makers ov cheese and blue cheese 18% thc or summt its ment so be heavy stone stuff real po. i plan on using bio canna vega&flores&boost nutes.
bio canna vega NPK 3.5-1-5.5 and NPK 8-1-1 guano for veg ,ill put pics on in bit just charging cam.
any ideas ???
 

Jester88

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what does patchy lighter green areas on leafs mean?????
look in my grow guide bro theres something that may interest you there ;-)
and it seems you have a very scientific opinion about things. As a 10 year grower, i'm lovin the fact that there are people like you laying it out there!! Kudo's and i hope you take accept my friend invite. I'm new to RIU but not to farming. So maybe we can share in this love affair. And I mean that circumstantially. lol
WTF
you seriously got no class or sense do you dude.. shes mine dumbass lol..

i think you struck out through sheer stupidness alone.. oh well i feel for you.... not ....
just joking lmfao

but back on a serious note... welcome to rollitup
 

armlengthbuds

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Haha!! Thought u were serious at first, and I thought this guy may be the biggest dick on this forum... Thanks for proving otherwise... I got a question while I'm at it. What does patchy, droopy,, discolored markings on ur cock mean???? Maybe to much Boron/ magnesium??? Take it easy dick, i mean dude! lol
 

Jester88

Well-Known Member
could also be a bit of ozone damage or phosphorpus

it depends what kind of droopy and color patches were talking about. my grow guide may interest you to dude.

otherewise id say herpies lol.
 

bong it

Member
nice list, good to know.
so now after i know what my plant need :).
which organic plant food(fert) will cover all of them? in veg and in flower
which non organic plant food(fert) will give me all those nutrition? in veg and in flower.(i mean for the folwer to come)

im cheap but im not that bad, for flower ill get the good stuff, but what about for veg?
my soil is warm casting mix, bone and blood meal, manure, perlite and few more goodies, and as of yestarday for the first time 30-10-10 fert that workx great, but i think i want/ preffer/feels like cheating alittle so ...... to go for organic!? do you think that good organic fert can make wonder or will it still be slowish.? name it!
bat guano??! will it be enough to aad when im Repotting ?? and then ff or flora.
i use cfl.

looking for complate package if posibble.
grow on
 

Jester88

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nice list, good to know.
so now after i know what my plant need :).
which organic plant food(fert) will cover all of them? in veg and in flower
which non organic plant food(fert) will give me all those nutrition? in veg and in flower.(i mean for the folwer to come)

im cheap but im not that bad, for flower ill get the good stuff, but what about for veg?
my soil is warm casting mix, bone and blood meal, manure, perlite and few more goodies, and as of yestarday for the first time 30-10-10 fert that workx great, but i think i want/ preffer/feels like cheating alittle so ...... to go for organic!? do you think that good organic fert can make wonder or will it still be slowish.? name it!
bat guano??! will it be enough to aad when im Repotting ?? and then ff or flora.
i use cfl.

looking for complate package if posibble.
grow on
wow now i know how ppl feel when i write lol.
the basics re you want high nitrogen fertilizers/nutrients and compost for vegetative growth

bud really needs more phosphorous and potassium try get something close to the 1-2-3 ratio

if your plant looks happy dont add anything as obviously it doesnt need them.

fish emulsions are good for transplanting. in fact i make my soil by going fishing and also adding some shrooms to the mix and other goodies at times. (not magic lol)

if your plant is growing happily in its soil and doesnt need anything then theres not much you can do as you cant make a plant grow beyond its genetic potential unless you go bringing in hormones and things of the sort. meaning if its a slow grower its a slow grower take subcools querkle for example this is known for this.

whats more is i only know of two hormones that are easily applied and avaiable. you only have to feed your plants once with each part (its a 2 part solution really) and only used in flower.

its called U TURN but i dont recommend using it i like to be healthy and to be honest they havent done tests on human consumption but ma mate at the shop says it sells like crazy. this shit will instantly stop all outward and upward grwth and concentrate on filling out thus achieving an end yield of two to three time what you normally would.

i need a lot of medacine and these approaches just dont appeal to me. a cannabis plants a plant, a chickes a chicken they grow fine without the extras.

check out ma grow guid (its pretty shabby i think im going to write a better one soon, i did it in one sitting and fast lol)

as long as your giving the plant what it wants at the right stages in life yo should achieve something decent.

Great post, I've been feeding my plants molassas, including in veg - and thanks to this info, now I know why!:mrgreen: Appreciate the share.:peace:
hehe
dont mind me molasses does help lol. theres actually a pretty scientific reason behind it that you may be starting to grasp now lol. but i dont see much that mollases can do that i cant achieve anyway and as the missus said im one of the people that views it as more of a sugar water technique lol.

i was just being a smart ass :lol:---->:oops:
 

bong it

Member
thanks jester :-)
i think i got all i need and some extras for a few years lol. this grow is more for to know what a grow indore will become if you do it 90% natural
my new addition is the fish emulsion and i think that the more importent 1 = biostimulant that is full with micronurients?

and yes thanks to roll it up(please bong it up every now and then) my plant is growing very strong and healthy, but not as fast as i want.(guess you cant controll everything then).

maybe my light is the problem so i got coule more right on my fav, will see how it goes.
 
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