Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

Come on, calling you a buttinsky is hardly constituting a parting shot... Why would I want an answer from you when you are on your first full novabloom grow, specifically a smaller grow,hence my buttinsky comment. And I dont know what your reading but my polite question about the larger rez change out& why he prefers bloom over grow was just answered recently not several times!!. , .. And if you did put your pm on we wouldnt have to fill his thread up with crap like you just posted above.., or what I just posted now. I think that would be more polite than this garbage,,, I apologize Scotty.. Carry on ...

frogster said:

Come on, calling you a buttinsky is hardly constituting a parting shot... Why would I want an answer from you when you are on your first full novabloom grow, specifically a smaller grow,hence my buttinsky comment. And I dont know what your reading but my polite question about the larger rez change out& why he prefers bloom over grow was just answered recently not several times!!. , .. And if you did put your pm on we wouldnt have to fill his thread up with crap like you just posted above.., or what I just posted now. I think that would be more polite than this garbage,,, I apologize Scotty.. Carry on ...

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I understood exactly what you were asking, and i answered it, pretty much the way Scotty did, that it was done that way for ease, so anyone could do it from scratch, and explain how to do it to others. Maybe I was eager to respond to your question put forth, because i knew the answer. I did not expect that to give you the right to nickname me. lol It's all good, but as I said, I expected something from your direction and you did not disappoint. Thanks!

Serapis,,.. I just wanted to know specific information concerning problems associated with a larger rez, more plants and longer times between changeouts... I also wanted more specifics to the reasoning why Scotty likes the bloom over the grow formula... I do not see in your post where you answered either, anywhere!.... Do the laws of physics cease to exist in your kitchen? Are these magic grits?... (My cousin Vinny)..Lol... Ok, Thx for trying Serapis, either I missed it in your post or ? Its all good.. I kinda want to do a few waterfarms now, just for fun&learning... And would love to get some Pineapple Express going...

It's all good. I was sold a long time ago and 6 bottles of Flora Nova Bloom in my closet, along with 3 bottles orf Drip Clean.

If you do decide to grow some PE, please do share. I'll sub that one. I have six of those beans coming and I think that would be a good summer crop. But yeah, def get the farms. They rock.

I got that Pineapple express too, those buds look so big.

And my #1 rule is to not use any additives like Kabloom other additives IMO they are all gimicks.. I use 1 fertilizer and that is GH Flora Nova bloom from start to finish it has everything a plant needs not even a need for flora Nova grow.. and keep in mind less is ALWAYS better.. running up 2000ppm nute solutions will not get you anymore then 1200ppm.. the plant is going to get what it wants.. forcing strong nute soulutions on the plant will just burn roots and hurt the plants ability to bring in even basic's up like water...

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So... in theory... you could run a perpetual grow with two waterfarms in veg and two in flower, connected to the same res and level controller?

Pineapple Express G13 Lab's seed ,easy to grow ? good for beginners ?

bamse said:

Pineapple Express G13 Lab's seed ,easy to grow ? good for beginners ?

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Piss easy to grow!
Germed within 12 hours, 4 nodes within a week.
Check out my LED thread. That is a very basic grow, no nutes added to soil until i hit flower where i started introducing a weak solution of bloom. I have a bigger grow, this was just an experiment.

Can anybody help me with my questions, before this random troll stepped in and soiled this amazing thread?

Peace!

Helped as much as possible just see the underlined answers below.


WOW!
It has been a long time since i have been on the forum for a random read and i am shocked! This thread has doubled in size since the grow finished!

SCOTTY!
My LED grow is almost finished, and my growdrobe is finished and running!

I have a few questions though that i hope you can help me with!

-I have 2 Waterfarms with 2 of those small blue pumps, and fuck me do they vibrate and hum alot and loud! Is there a quieter pump out on the market? idealy from www.growell.co.uk? I put mine on a piece of carpet or rug and it takes away the vibrations.

-My tap water is 300ppm on the 0.5x scale, 0.6 EC. Ive never used an EC meter or pH meter, or hydroponics in that case. What EC/PPM and pH should i have it at? Might want to use different water if tap water is over 200ppm

-You put the fresh taproot straight into the hydroton right? How deep in did you put it in? This is what i did. Just make what looks like a (small) tornado in the center of the water farm so some of the water drains toward the center and just drop it in tap root down. Just make sure when u fill with water the first time after rinsing the hydroton that u pour it in the center so it stays wet for the seedling.

-How often did you water the seedling? 15mins every hour? Just run the waterfarm 24/7

-How far away was the light away from the seedling heads and when did you move it up? I had a 600w mh at 3 feet above mine. It depends on the lights. Just stay 2+ feet at first and make sure temps stay under 79ish at the top of the waterfarm

My seeds should be ready to go in tomorrow!

Also, this is for anybody else that can help too! Alongside the 2 waterfarms, i also have 4 pots, using Light-Mix soil. What nutes would you recommend i use?

Can i use the Lucas formula in soil too?

Just realised i bought Flora Bloom NOT FloraNOVA Bloom!!! Fucks sake! lol

Thanks to anyone that helps!

hello growers, got a question for ya? pound for pound which grow style gives the most yeild?, sog V.S. scrog? Here's the set up, 4x4 tent 4x4 table ebb& drain system 1000w light system, aircool hood. 2 fans one on light the other on filther.all plants in 7x7x9 pots with hydroton. PS, i want to do a grow that will give me enough to smoke for 6months

sneakyheatsig said:

So... in theory... you could run a perpetual grow with two waterfarms in veg and two in flower, connected to the same res and level controller?

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Not really because a plant in vege can not handle the same strength of the nutes for a plant in flower.. good question thoe

jojodancer10 said:

hello growers, got a question for ya? pound for pound which grow style gives the most yeild?, sog V.S. scrog? Here's the set up, 4x4 tent 4x4 table ebb& drain system 1000w light system, aircool hood. 2 fans one on light the other on filther.all plants in 7x7x9 pots with hydroton. PS, i want to do a grow that will give me enough to smoke for 6months

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SCROG unless you wanted to pack in 30 plants in a 4 x 4 foot area and good luck with that headach.. enough to last 6 months? that depends on how much you smoke.. My last harvest was 14.2 oz for me thats enough for 2 yrs easy but My shit is pretty strong I cant even pack a full bowl without having a out of body brain fuck experience.. I smoke once somtimes twice a day but there just good one hitters and hold in as long as you can. That will stretch out your supply and keep in mind you can only get so high after a point the rest you smoke after a point is a waste..

Yea Tolerance is a BITCH!

always chaseing that first High wake n bakes the best i think

Question, how much did the PE stretch when you flipped to 12/12? Im currently 3 weeks in veg with the PE under CFL's and the plant is still 2 inches below the screen and i plan on veggin atleast another week, i just dont want to go to long before i switch.

@ Scotty, the power kush ended up yielding just a little over 4 oz's which we are more than happy with. The buds came out covered in crystally sugary goodness and it smells like the description and it's only been curing for a little over 1 week.

A few factors that might have reduced the yield include:
1. Sending the plant into flowering too late which resulted in too many tops with not enough holes.
2. Too many tops towards the middle with not enough holes to weave them outwards with.
2. Believe it or not, 3 days without weaving created an uneven canopy without weaving made the canopy uneven and the hps hortilux bulb has now been used for 4 straight grows (2x for autoflowers and 2x for normal strains) which may need to be thrown out and replaced.

With that being said, I will be using this simple growing method first chance I get to grow again. My buddy is going to be using the 8 waterfarm system for a medical grow using only flora nova bloom for nutrients. Trying to get him to grow PE from seed, but he can just go the clone route via dispensary.

Again, thanks for all the help.

Junya951 said:

Question, how much did the PE stretch when you flipped to 12/12? Im currently 3 weeks in veg with the PE under CFL's and the plant is still 2 inches below the screen and i plan on veggin atleast another week, i just dont want to go to long before i switch.

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stretches to about double, maybe 2.5 from my year of experience... but that is with HID lighting.

Someguy15 said:

stretches to about double, maybe 2.5 from my year of experience... but that is with HID lighting.

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ok so i still have a little longer. I still notice a decent stretch even with cfls in most plants so im thinkin 1-2 weeks should be perfect. thanks

bongmarley2009 said:

@ Scotty, the power kush ended up yielding just a little over 4 oz's which we are more than happy with. The buds came out covered in crystally sugary goodness and it smells like the description and it's only been curing for a little over 1 week.

A few factors that might have reduced the yield include:
1. Sending the plant into flowering too late which resulted in too many tops with not enough holes.
2. Too many tops towards the middle with not enough holes to weave them outwards with.
2. Believe it or not, 3 days without weaving created an uneven canopy without weaving made the canopy uneven and the hps hortilux bulb has now been used for 4 straight grows (2x for autoflowers and 2x for normal strains) which may need to be thrown out and replaced.

With that being said, I will be using this simple growing method first chance I get to grow again. My buddy is going to be using the 8 waterfarm system for a medical grow using only flora nova bloom for nutrients. Trying to get him to grow PE from seed, but he can just go the clone route via dispensary.

Again, thanks for all the help.

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look at it this way you easily paid for your whole system plus seeds with one grow.. you will get it down in a few more grows.. defintly dont wait to long to flower unless your pushing a 600 or 1000w hps ... your light needs to be able to penitrate the canopy .. and your welcome for the help

Someguy15 said:

stretches to about double, maybe 2.5 from my year of experience... but that is with HID lighting.

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agreed 2.5 sounds good

bongmarley2009 said:

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2. Believe it or not, 3 days without weaving created an uneven canopy without weaving made the canopy uneven and the hps hortilux bulb has now been used for 4 straight grows (2x for autoflowers and 2x for normal strains) which may need to be thrown out and replaced.

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I just want to point something out to other readers who may get the wrong idea about that statement. Using 8 weeks as the flower cycle on average, times 12 hours a day is 672 hours. Considering it takes 3000 hours of use before you lose 5% of the lumen, people might want to think twice about tossing an expensive bulb that still has some life left.

It's a personal call. once the bulb gets to about 90% of it's original lumen, it does drop pretty fast after that. I've included a lumen maintenance chart if anyone needs it.

I just took my hortilux bulb I bought back in 2008 to get tested at my hydro shop, and it is still at 95% efficiency I have used it too veg for 7 grows which is 3,969hrs of use.

So just take that into consideration, you can get a lumen tester, I have no clue what they are called or how much they cost. Or ask your hydro shop if they have one they will gladly test it. Just be prepared to be there for 30min or so cause they have to let the bulb warm up and get to max output then they have too let it cool completely.


Another moral of the story, buy the expensive bulbs they are worth the price Hortilux bulbs fuckin rock.