Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

two2brains

two2brains

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I got a 600w hybrid bulb (300w mh & 300w hps in the same bulb) that i got for free as a mistake on the hydro's shipping. I'm running 600w mh in veg right now and thinking about running the hybrid the first month of flowering and then switching to 600w hps the last month. Anybody think that would affect yields?
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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I'm a son t plus hps man myself.. However ive busted out some pretty nice grows with a cheap ass lowes hps bulbs also.. Also agree I've done 10+ grows with a single son t and never noticed a hurt in yeild..
 
T.M.B

T.M.B

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Scotty did you use the CMH through the whole Kush grow and whats your final thought of these bulbs compared to HPS,and is SLH up to bat.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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T.M.B said:
Scotty did you use the CMH through the whole Kush grow and whats your final thought of these bulbs compared to HPS,and is SLH up to bat.
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Its still up in the air cause I did not have another Vanilla Kush grow with HPS to compare I did manage 14.2 oz however I have yeilded more with Hps plenty of times before... If you wanted to try CMH I would not be worried about loosing much of a yeild if any at all.. I would also not expect to gain any.. Now on to potency now Vanilla Kush won a high times cup award and it won for a reason its very strong shit.. however I did not see above avarage cystal formation then any other plant.. again it would have been nice to have a HPS grow with VK to give a real opinion... personally I dont think they are worth the cost that CMH is going for.. I have had plants look just as good with HPS and knock me on my ass the same way.,. Now the one major difrence Ive seen that I do like is CMH dose indeed run cooler then HPS other then that I would probly just stick with HPS..
 
T.M.B

T.M.B

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Thanks Scotty well i am already in bed with the cmhs i am running 2 i didnt think the price was bad about 50 $ a bulb that you can use the whole cycle it seemed like the hydro shop hps were very expensive in compare but they dont carry the cmh either and i was able to power shop online i didnt even look at any others when i was buying anyhow is it slh time?
 
bongmarley2009

bongmarley2009

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@ Serapis and Jim
Thanks for the information regarding bulb efficiency. My hortilux bulb should be at around 3900 hours. I will tell my buddy to have it tested at the hydro shop or to just to use it once or twice more.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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T.M.B said:
Thanks Scotty well i am already in bed with the cmhs i am running 2 i didnt think the price was bad about 50 $ a bulb that you can use the whole cycle it seemed like the hydro shop hps were very expensive in compare but they dont carry the cmh either and i was able to power shop online i didnt even look at any others when i was buying anyhow is it slh time?
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OK thats not bad at all.. I paid $90 for mine.. They probly came down since then..
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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two2brains said:
have u ever ran dual arcs? mh/hps (300x300) in the same bulb? I have one never used it and thinking about running in the first month of flower.
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You could run dual arc's from start to finish and have a nice yeild.. however a hps would probly yeild a touch more bud.. you could run it first month of flower for sure.. then switch to all out HPS.. the dual arc's will help with the initial stretch.. and the HPS will help pack on the weight at the end.. They are actually really nice bulbs I would buy one but I only run 400 watt systems
 
PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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Hey scotty

Nice furkin grow buddy!+rep.....you got me seriously thinkin about doin a scrog on my next go, my space is 70cmx110cm...... could you check out my grow in my signutare below an let me no what you think...if it would work in my space?

Im runnin a 600w dual spec sunmaster bulb with air cooled reflector in the narrow space

i was think maybe top for 4main colas then train them out in a X shape under the screen?

thanks bud peace
 
rollajoint

rollajoint

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Hi dude have a quick question for you . In my next grow i want to use the waterfarm. I will be using 4 . Im intrested in how you change your water in the scrog ? It has been mentioned before but i cant find it. Thanks. Awsome grow to man !
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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jimbizzzale67123 said:
Shit, that sucks man. How loud was the POP! what kind of ballast do you need for these dual arc bulbs I never even knew they made them.
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Non digital ballast or standard core and coil

rollajoint said:
Hi dude have a quick question for you . In my next grow i want to use the waterfarm. I will be using 4 . Im intrested in how you change your water in the scrog ? It has been mentioned before but i cant find it. Thanks. Awsome grow to man !
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point the blue level tube down and gravity dose the rest
 
Raylan

Raylan

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Hey Scotty,
Been following your thread for a few weeks now and I've finally got my grow up and going. I've kept it as close to yours as possible with a few exceptions. I'm using a 24x48x72 grow tent with a 400W Lumatek Digital ballast and a enhanced HPS bulb. I've got a 250cfm fan blowing cool air into the bottom, and will soon have another pulling air from the top into a carbon filter.
Instead of the waterfarms, I'm using 2 CocoGrowers which seem to be the exact same thing as the Waterfarms except its circular. I ordered a Pineapple Express fem seed and germinated in a napkin for a day or so til the taproot was about 1/2" long, then placed in the hydroton. That was 3 days ago...Now the plant has grew a good 1" and started to created its first set of true leaves, but the other two leaves are drooping terribly under the plant. I was wondering if you could remember if this occurred for you as well? If not, then any ideas what the problem could be? The temperature in the tent is usually around 85 or so, with 30% humidity. My tap water is 50 ppm and the PH is 6.4. In the other cocogrower unit I have a free seed which is Skunk #1 and instead of placing it directly in the hydroton I sprouted it in a peat pellet seed starter. The PE and Skunk #1 were germinated and planted in the CocoGrowers at the same time, yet the Skunk #1 looks to be doing way better than the PE, which is not what I was looking for...The PE is my baby haha. I took a few pictures, but don't expect them to help much as its terribly hard to take a picture of the plants using my laptops webcam, especially with the HPS light. I posted a lot of pictures so hopefully you can discern something from them.
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PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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Hey bud 30% humidity is low for seedlings you want to be hittin the high end of 40-60% for germ an veg.... you'd get away with it in flower 30-40%
Dont get me wrong you'l still grow some bud but you'l yield better if conditions are ideal

hope this helps

peace
 
Raylan

Raylan

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Thanks for the tip, any idea why my humidity is so low? Figured with all that water flowing around in a pretty hot environment humidity wouldn't be an issue. Also, that just concerns yields correct? That's not the reasoning for my PE to look in somewhat bad health?
 
PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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Raylan said:
Thanks for the tip, any idea why my humidity is so low? Figured with all that water flowing around in a pretty hot environment humidity wouldn't be an issue. Also, that just concerns yields correct? That's not the reasoning for my PE to look in somewhat bad health?
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It could be the prob mate but im not 100% and it wont just affect yield it'l effect growth and leaf size to..... it could be your extracts suckin out alot of the humidity in the air an with the heat its dryin up quick.....i had the same prob with my grow at 1st...all you need to do is stick a bucket in there half full with water with a small towel hangin out with a desk fan blowin on it, but if you allready got a fan blowin about you may not need another......when i did this its raised my humidity from like the 25-35% upto 45-60% so worked well

hope this helps good luck

peace
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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ph is a bit high for a hydroponic setup like this man you should be down around 5.8 or so, also if you are talking about the cotelydons drooping that happens naturally its ok, they are the nutrients for the plant at this young age. If your talking about the first set of true leaves then it may be the fact that your ph is high or it may be your humidity or both. Humidity is low though for seedlings. I like to stay around 40-50% all the time.

more than one way to skin a cat but i hope this helps

Raylan said:
Hey Scotty,
Been following your thread for a few weeks now and I've finally got my grow up and going. I've kept it as close to yours as possible with a few exceptions. I'm using a 24x48x72 grow tent with a 400W Lumatek Digital ballast and a enhanced HPS bulb. I've got a 250cfm fan blowing cool air into the bottom, and will soon have another pulling air from the top into a carbon filter.
Instead of the waterfarms, I'm using 2 CocoGrowers which seem to be the exact same thing as the Waterfarms except its circular. I ordered a Pineapple Express fem seed and germinated in a napkin for a day or so til the taproot was about 1/2" long, then placed in the hydroton. That was 3 days ago...Now the plant has grew a good 1" and started to created its first set of true leaves, but the other two leaves are drooping terribly under the plant. I was wondering if you could remember if this occurred for you as well? If not, then any ideas what the problem could be? The temperature in the tent is usually around 85 or so, with 30% humidity. My tap water is 50 ppm and the PH is 6.4. In the other cocogrower unit I have a free seed which is Skunk #1 and instead of placing it directly in the hydroton I sprouted it in a peat pellet seed starter. The PE and Skunk #1 were germinated and planted in the CocoGrowers at the same time, yet the Skunk #1 looks to be doing way better than the PE, which is not what I was looking for...The PE is my baby haha. I took a few pictures, but don't expect them to help much as its terribly hard to take a picture of the plants using my laptops webcam, especially with the HPS light. I posted a lot of pictures so hopefully you can discern something from them.
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